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BS: irish election

22 Feb 11 - 02:10 PM (#3100495)
Subject: BS: irish election
From: The Sandman

Please, Please, do not vote Fianna Fail or Fine Gael.
If Fine Gael get in with an overall majority They will impose serious reductions in social welfare, and create hardship for the lowest income families, do not be fooled, enda has let the cat out of the bag.
   ENDA KENNY has admitted Ireland faces "tough times" under his leadership in an apparent bid to soften up the electorate for the pain that Fine Gael will have to inflict in power.

Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/kfeygbauqlsn/rss2/#ixzz1EiU17MUU


22 Feb 11 - 02:13 PM (#3100500)
Subject: RE: BS: irish election
From: The Sandman

By Paul O'Brien, Mary Regan and Conor Ryan

Tuesday, February 22, 2011

ENDA KENNY has admitted Ireland faces "tough times" under his leadership in an apparent bid to soften up the electorate for the pain that Fine Gael will have to inflict in power.


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Mr Kenny said there was "no escaping the reality" of what was coming down the tracks because of the economic difficulties the country found itself in.

While insisting everything in his party's plan to "get Ireland working" could be delivered, he warned it would be a gradual process.

"There is no escaping the reality that there are tough times ahead," he said.

"You are not going to walk into a situation on February 26 where suddenly the sun shines on everybody and the warmth is on our backs economically — that's not the case…

"(But) there is nothing in our five-point plan that cannot be delivered and it is all about confidence."

Mr Kenny made his comments to TV3 as he came under fire for a separate interview he did with Newstalk radio station.

A Newstalk presenter said Fine Gael had "asked that the pension not be spoken about" in an interview Mr Kenny was doing with the station.

This was a reference to the €100,000 lump sum and €30,000 annual pension due to Mr Kenny from his time as a teacher in the 1970s, and which he announced he was forfeiting at the weekend.

Fianna Fáil were quick to capitalise, accusing Mr Kenny of trying to "censor" the media. Party leader Micheál Martin said Mr Kenny "should be prepared to answer any question that an interviewer wants to ask him".

But in a subsequent statement, Newstalk confirmed that no preconditions were set by Fine Gael.

"Newstalk wishes to state categorically that no such preconditions were in place. They were not sought and Newstalk considered the issue of the pension had been dealt with," it said.

The controversy came as Labour leader Eamon Gilmore acknowledged that Mr Kenny was on course to become Taoiseach based on the opinion polls, which show Fine Gael with a commanding lead.

But Mr Gilmore reiterated his appeal to voters to deny Fine Gael a "monopoly of power", saying Labour were needed in coalition to ensure a fair and balanced government.

Fianna Fáil leader Mr Martin made a pitch to over-65s, the age bracket in which the party's support remains highest, by vowing not to reduce the state pension if returned to office.

Separately, his deputy leader, Mary Hanafin, said there was "no doubt" Fianna Fáil would have been performing better in the polls had they removed Brian Cowen as leader last September.

Mr Kenny, Mr Gilmore and Mr Martin face off in the final televised leaders' debate of the campaign on RTÉ tonight.


23 Feb 11 - 01:36 PM (#3101314)
Subject: RE: BS: irish election
From: The Sandman

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24 Feb 11 - 03:24 PM (#3102103)
Subject: RE: BS: irish election
From: The Sandman

Denis O Donovan,aka Desperate Denis, had his name up in flashing lights on a car
Just before you get into Skibbereen you see a electric signal flashing and you slow down in expectation of road works or whatever, instead it says: "VOTE No 1 O'DONOVAN". Not only that we have to look at posters when driving along a road, not they are irritating drivers with flashing signals. That really pisses me off, it is actually dangerous.


25 Feb 11 - 03:45 AM (#3102429)
Subject: RE: BS: irish election
From: Bonnie Shaljean

I do NOT know what to do. Have to vote today - have to - and don't like Fine Gael any more than Dick does. Our union circulated a PDF outlining what FG plans to do to the education system, and they also promise to "take on the unions". A vote for Fianna Fáil (Fianna FAIL, who foyled the country up totally) is unthinkable, except: Micheál Martin is a good man who might be able to rebuild the party into something that bears a resemblance to decent; while seeing Enda Kenny get into power is a prospect too dismaying to even type. A dead Fianna Fáil is not necessarily good for us, though there's no argument that we need a transformed and uncorrupt one. But first there has to be something there to transform. Stolen horses and shutting the barn door (just when it might be advisable to leave it open, even a teensy crack?) is a dilemma for many of us.

I am SO SICK of everybody in the media saying how people "didn't know" what was happening at the time. We bloody knew. So did a lot of people. Even a few brave radio/TV folk, whose words got lost in the general rush to spend phantom money on non-exportable goods of fluctuating value. We used to make sour jokes about watching the lemmings race each other over the cliff's edge. Trouble is, they dragged us along with them.

This broadcast makes for interesting listening. It's a dramatised documentary about the whole mess, though in the opening scenes it annoyed me by once again spinning the "nobody knew" yarn.

It's on BBC Radio 4 (which means it should be available world-wide) for the next 5 or 6 days:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00ysqsm

Off to the polls later, heigh-ho...


25 Feb 11 - 08:36 AM (#3102563)
Subject: RE: BS: irish election
From: The Sandman

[imo]vote labour.The only hope of controlling fine gael, labour have a very goodchance of taking one seat in cork east


25 Feb 11 - 09:02 AM (#3102572)
Subject: RE: BS: irish election
From: The Sandman

here is my prediction, labour 43 seats, sinn fein 20, fianna fail 28, fine gael 68, independents 7.
lots of different possible coalitions there.


27 Feb 11 - 04:19 AM (#3103433)
Subject: RE: BS: irish election
From: The Sandman

looks like Fianna Fail are going to be annihalated, The soldiers of destiny are destined to the scrap heap, goodbye to phoney republicanism,.
Fianna Fail could end up with less seats than Sinn Fein.


27 Feb 11 - 05:09 AM (#3103444)
Subject: RE: BS: irish election
From: Jim Carroll

It appears Tweedle Dum has won and Tweedle Dummer has lost - leaving the people of Ireland .... where exactly? Only time will tell.
Isn't it a shame that we're only ever given poiticians to vote for?
Jim Carroll


27 Feb 11 - 06:55 AM (#3103472)
Subject: RE: BS: irish election
From: Bonnie Shaljean

About a half hour ago:

Counting has resumed in the nine remaining constituencies in the General Election, with 35 seats in the new Dáil still to be filled. Fine Gael, Labour and Sinn Féin have already won record numbers of seats, while Fianna Fáil has been reduced to an historic low. A Fine Gael-Labour coalition is almost certain to form the Government.

Let's at least hope for some form of damage-limitation.


27 Feb 11 - 07:12 AM (#3103480)
Subject: RE: BS: irish election
From: GUEST,Peter Laban

Some comic relief:

Enda's Earpiece


27 Feb 11 - 07:27 AM (#3103487)
Subject: RE: BS: irish election
From: Bonnie Shaljean

"...just blink a few times to make sure you can hear me..."

PRICELESS!


27 Feb 11 - 03:44 PM (#3103779)
Subject: RE: BS: irish election
From: The Sandman

I am MEGA pissed off, although glad fF have had a drubbing, i had a fiver on[6 to one] fine gael getting 68 to 71 seats, and they clearly didnt know the script., looks like they will get 72 to 74, bloody tossers.


28 Feb 11 - 08:15 AM (#3104163)
Subject: RE: BS: irish election
From: The Sandman

so what will be next?Dirt tax increased, water meter chargers introduced?will the min wage cut be reversed, will aprperty tax be introduced.
what they should do is reverse the cuts in social welfare, and link social welfare to inflation, reduce tax on fuel by 3 per cent.
Then all tds and ministers wages should be cut in half, and with this money saved, every person on social welfare and earning the minimium wage should be given 5oo euros., this would stimulate the economy.
in 2009, the Australian government , gave every australian citizen 900 dollars., Result= economy stimulated


28 Feb 11 - 10:29 AM (#3104232)
Subject: RE: BS: irish election
From: harmonic miner

I really think a 'no politics' rule on this forum would be a good idea.

I have political views but I'd rather discuss them elsewhere, if at all


28 Feb 11 - 11:21 AM (#3104271)
Subject: RE: BS: irish election
From: Bonnie Shaljean

So why open a thread that is obviously political?
Why not just stay in the music section?
Why not let people discuss what they want to discuss and ignore whatever doesn't interest you?


28 Feb 11 - 12:51 PM (#3104333)
Subject: RE: BS: irish election
From: akenaton

I see the republicans did very well.
How long before a united Irland?


28 Feb 11 - 05:28 PM (#3104557)
Subject: RE: BS: irish election
From: The Sandman

Biffo never went away, his brother is standing in Laois Offaly AND LOOKS LIKE HE MIGHT GET ELECTED can you believe it?
another big ignorant fellow from Offaly, A protected breed, like Glouester Old Spot pigs