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09 Mar 11 - 01:00 AM (#3110127) Subject: BS: Lent From: J-boy Any Mudcatters giving anything up for it? I'm not. |
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09 Mar 11 - 03:34 AM (#3110162) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: The Fooles Troupe She snuggled up to him. He moved away "It's Lent". "Well who did you lend it to? Get it back then!" |
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09 Mar 11 - 04:34 AM (#3110189) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: Wolfhound person Borrowed? Purloined? Pinched? .....never mind. Pancakes anyway. Spring. Paws |
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09 Mar 11 - 06:16 AM (#3110229) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email) Are we allowed to talk about lent on PC Mudcat ? Should the thread title not be Ramadan/Lent ? |
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09 Mar 11 - 06:32 AM (#3110238) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: C-flat It's not Ramadan until August? I think? Maybe we could talk about it then? |
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09 Mar 11 - 07:54 AM (#3110279) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: Rapparee Of late I've been wondering why good Christians penalized themselves during Lent (and to a lesser extent during Advent). If you believe in what Christianity teaches why wouldn't you be joy-filled over your salvation and its anticipate its anniversary with happiness? Why punish yourself? Same deal with Advent -- why not celebrate the birth of your Savior (even though it probably happened in April or thereabouts and not December)? The "ways" were "made straight" centuries ago. |
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09 Mar 11 - 09:15 AM (#3110317) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: Charmion Have you ever noticed how the season of maximum abstinence coincides with the "blue months" when the winter larder is down to the last crumbs? The early Church fathers had a real gift for (literally) making a virtue of a necessity. That said, the point of fasting before major feasts is to discipline the flesh and concentrate the mind while you're doing it, and to make the feast that much more glorious when you're done doing it. When you have eaten no meat and not much of anything else for six weeks, and spent an inconveniently long time on your marrowbones praying instead of watching TV, Easter is a delightful shock. Advent has never been as effectively abstemious as Lent, not least because there's usually plenty of food at that time of the year. Also, the concentration of Christmas gift-giving and celebration on December 25th is quite recent in the traditions of western Europe -- your mileage may vary if you are Orthodox. |
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09 Mar 11 - 09:51 AM (#3110335) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: GUEST I know someone who gives up things for Lent and also again just before Christmas which is more of a detox really and to concentrate on all of those jobs put aside. |
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09 Mar 11 - 10:59 AM (#3110362) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: GUEST,mg I am not joy filled seeing as how much purgatory I will probably have to go through..nor am I joy filled that if I escape hell supposedly lots of people are there..could be friends or family. I have never seen what is joyful about it all. mg |
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09 Mar 11 - 11:08 AM (#3110367) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: bobad There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life. |
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09 Mar 11 - 11:41 AM (#3110398) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: Maryrrf "Going without", even if it is voluntary, can help one to 1) appreciate the blessings of everyday life that we take for granted throughout most of the year and 2) develop compassion and empathy for those who have less and are deprived through poverty and lack. Ideally, when we have purified ourselves through these periodic fasts we emerge more grateful and compassionate. I think that has something to do with the underlying philosophy of Ramadan and Lent. |
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09 Mar 11 - 12:39 PM (#3110435) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: Becca72 Bobad, I need that embroidered on a pillow!! :-) |
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09 Mar 11 - 12:44 PM (#3110440) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: olddude It would take me a 1000 years to explain it .. so why bother. If ya don't get it ya don't get it .. so why put down others that do .. to each their own |
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09 Mar 11 - 12:50 PM (#3110448) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: GUEST,Eliza Exactly, Maryrrf, and also, it's often quite encouraging to know one can exert self-discipline even if only for a few weeks. To be in control of one's desires is worth cultivating. I also find I draw closer to God during Lent, with the extra prayer and readings. This year's Red Nose Day gives us a chance to donate to the poorer and less fortunate during the Lent period. I realise that those who do not believe in God find Ramadan or Lent strange, but it's our faith and neither my husband (a Muslim) nor I (a Christian) would abandon the practice, even if others poke fun at us (Which they're perfectly entitled to do!) |
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09 Mar 11 - 01:15 PM (#3110467) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: GUEST,999 Ain't strange, Eliza. It is an aspect of religion that some people like to make fun of, but people who really believe will let the remarks go, just as you have. I gave up Lent for Lent one year, and I've never reinstituted the event in my life. However, the occasions bring something worthwhile to both you and your husband, and that's good. |
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09 Mar 11 - 01:30 PM (#3110480) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: GUEST,Eliza Yes, Guest 999,I find it's always best not to get hot under the collar about one's religion when people scoff. Everyone's entitled to their view. In fact, I'm a bit suspicious of those who 'tub thump' about their chosen faith, and get very angry etc. That's why fundamentalists of any type leave me cold. They can get aggressive and full of hate, whch can only be a bad thing. I laughed at you giving up Lent for Lent! I ought to give up crumpets dripping with butter, my secret passion, but don't think I have the willpower! |
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09 Mar 11 - 01:53 PM (#3110514) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: Herga Kitty One of my work colleagues thought she might give up complaining during Lent - but she hasn't.... Kitty |
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09 Mar 11 - 01:54 PM (#3110517) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: Joe Offer I try to do positive things for lent. Every Lent, I try to find time to read one book that makes me think. With that and learning new music for Easter, that's enough. Oh, and I try to make it to church every Friday night for the fish fry (I limit myself to one beer, because I'm usually the "choir" for Stations of the Cross afterwards). The wisdom of the book, the joy of the music, and the community spirit of the fish fry do me lots more good than I'd get from giving up candy. -Joe- |
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09 Mar 11 - 02:01 PM (#3110524) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: gnu They serve beer at the fry? |
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09 Mar 11 - 02:06 PM (#3110527) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: Dave MacKenzie And they brew beer at the friary - have a look at all the Abbey and Trappist beers. |
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09 Mar 11 - 02:07 PM (#3110529) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: olddude I wasn't getting heated, like I said to each their own. Sometime I do get angry on various thread... but that is not because of religion, it is simply because I don't go around slamming people's beliefs no matter what those beliefs are. I don't do it to others, don't like others doing it to me .. thats all |
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09 Mar 11 - 02:09 PM (#3110533) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: GUEST,leeneia I am abstaining from Facebook and Twitter for Lent. Also for all the rest of the year. How's that? |
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09 Mar 11 - 02:13 PM (#3110540) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: Steve Shaw I'm giving up the very thought that I might have to try Californian wine. I've utterly sacrificed the idea of buying a shaky egg. I'm giving up everything brewed by St Austell brewery. |
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09 Mar 11 - 02:35 PM (#3110560) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: olddude St Austell brewery. Is that a micro brew? I never tried it or heard of it before ... is it one that you can get in the states |
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09 Mar 11 - 02:40 PM (#3110564) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: Rapparee I just gave up my youngest brother for Lent. I don't think I'll give up anything else, thanks. |
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09 Mar 11 - 02:50 PM (#3110573) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: Herga Kitty Steve Shaw - ok, so not Tinners, but you can still get Rock? Kitty |
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09 Mar 11 - 03:45 PM (#3110631) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: gnu leeneia... and Facebook too for me... got ya beat. |
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09 Mar 11 - 03:47 PM (#3110633) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: PoppaGator Here in New Orleans, America's only historically-Catholic city, abstinence from meat (dating back to the days when such was still actually observed by the population at large) has never meant anything except for increased consumption of seafood, which is especially tasty and plentiful hereabouts. Especially crawfish ~ a delicacy whose annual harvest (i.e., greatest abundance and lowest prices) annually coincides with the post-Mardi Gras season historically known as "Lent." |
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09 Mar 11 - 05:49 PM (#3110716) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: GUEST,mg How is a historically Catholic city defined? Wouldn't some of the places in California or New Mexico, places with great Spanish influence, have started out Catholic? mg |
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09 Mar 11 - 05:57 PM (#3110723) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: Rapparee Santa Fe, NM? El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles del Río de Porciúncula? Mission San Francisco de Asís? St. Louis? et al? |
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09 Mar 11 - 08:08 PM (#3110770) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: Charmion Not to speak of Maryland, a whole state that started out as a colony for British Catholics fed up with the Test Acts. |
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09 Mar 11 - 08:09 PM (#3110771) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: Joe Offer I can't say eating fish is much of a sacrifice for Catholics, any more than eating Kosher food is a sacrifice for Jews. It's more a matter of celebration of the group's identity - and I think that can be a very good and healthy thing (with beer or wine in moderation, of course). -Joe- |
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10 Mar 11 - 05:32 AM (#3110968) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: GUEST,999 In the early days of the church, the admonition was nothing to do with eating fish on Fridays. It was a stricture NOT to eat meat on Wednesdays or Fridays. |
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10 Mar 11 - 08:38 AM (#3111046) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: GUEST,Patsy Lent is in the right time of year to give things up if you really want to do that rather than the New Year when resolutions are made not thinking about the long gloomy winter ahead. To be honest there's nowt much else I can give up! |
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10 Mar 11 - 02:51 PM (#3111259) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: lefthanded guitar I'm not Catholic, but I am seriously thinking of giving up my(what I thought was an attainable) New Year's Resolution of learning to yodel. Unless someone here can convince me otherwise ;) |
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10 Mar 11 - 05:09 PM (#3111320) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: GUEST,999 Your neighbours have circulated a petition and . . . |
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11 Mar 11 - 12:30 AM (#3111429) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: GUEST,mg I don't know of a rule that said you have to eat fish on Fridays..but I did hear that the Wednesday and perhaps Friday rule was the pope being grateful to the Portugeuse for being faithful Catholics and he thought to send some business their way so people would eat more fish. No idea if this is true or not. I had not heard about the Wednesday thing until I lived in Newfoundland and someone told me. mg |
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11 Mar 11 - 07:34 AM (#3111606) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler I gave up religion for lent many years ago and never got it back. |
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11 Mar 11 - 07:44 AM (#3111609) Subject: RE: BS: Lent From: DMcG There's nothing I can find in the Catholic Encyclopedia to suggest there was ever a requirement to eat fish. There is, on the other hand, this: St. Gregory writing to St. Augustine of England laid down the rule, "We abstain from flesh meat, and from all things that come from flesh, as milk, cheese, and eggs." And of course, sticking to fish is one way to do that. |