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13 Feb 09 - 02:37 PM (#2566143) Subject: The McPeakes From: Jack Blandiver A little something to warm the cockles on a cold February night! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlS1spbuSbo |
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13 Feb 09 - 05:05 PM (#2566283) Subject: RE: The McPeakes From: dick greenhaus For more of the McPeake Family, there's Folktrax 071. $18 from CAMSCO. TRacklist:Maidrin Rua - My Singing Bird - Marches - Bonny Bunch Of Roses-O - Reel - Dord Faine - Blackbird - Erin The Tear - Lament For Aughrim - Verdant Braes Of Skreen - Coulin - Siuban Ni Ghiuibhir - Jigs - Carrick Down - Se Fa Mo Mhughrach - Road To Ballynure - Seothin Seo - Wild Mountain Thyme (Will You Go Lassie Go?) |
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13 Apr 11 - 07:04 AM (#3134244) Subject: McPeake Family From: Jim Carroll Don't suppose anybody could let me have a copy of the notes and track listing of the Ossian cassette of The McPeake Family (Ossian 76) - seem to have lost mine. Thanks in advance. Jim Carroll |
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13 Apr 11 - 07:25 AM (#3134254) Subject: RE: McPeake Family From: Jack Blandiver Not that, but there is this: http://gonzo-archive.blogspot.com/2009/09/mcpeake-family-fontana-tl5214.html |
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13 Apr 11 - 07:39 AM (#3134265) Subject: RE: McPeake Family From: Jim Carroll Thanks Paul Jim Carroll |
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13 Apr 11 - 09:02 AM (#3134305) Subject: RE: McPeake Family From: Vin2 I still have this album, bought in the late 60's i think and the sleeve cover is a photagraph of he family sat around a living room fire. There was a rumour once that Francis McPeake was the author of Wild Mountain Tyme - or did i imagine that ?? |
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13 Apr 11 - 09:05 AM (#3134307) Subject: RE: McPeake Family From: GUEST,Peter Laban It's not a rumour. He is. |
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13 Apr 11 - 09:22 AM (#3134320) Subject: RE: McPeake Family From: Jim Carroll "Francis McPeake was the author...." Weeeeelllll !! Wild Mountain Thyme is a variant of the Scots song Braes of Balquidder (Robert Tannahill), which in its turn was a re-write of an earlier song - Braes of Bowhether, by John Hamilton, published in Edinburgh in 1796. . From a previous thread "This is Robert Tannahill's original from Graham's/Wood's 'Songs of Scotland'. Frank McPeake's Irish version of this, "Wild Mountain Thyme" There was a legal wrangle involving Rod Stewart, in which the Mcpeake's came off somewhat the worse for wear. Jim Carroll |
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13 Apr 11 - 10:30 AM (#3134347) Subject: RE: McPeake Family From: GUEST,Derek Schofield The Ossian cassettes were generally reissues, IIRC, so what was the original called, cat no etc? Derek |
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13 Apr 11 - 04:03 PM (#3134567) Subject: RE: McPeake Family From: Little Robyn According to old Francie McP, he heard his Uncle sing 'it' years before. Now, was the song his Uncle sang actually the Braes and then Francie misremembered it and thus WMT was born or was the Uncle responsible for the metamorphosis of an art song into a 'folk' song? Has anyone sorted that out yet? I guess it was someone in the McPeake family, whoever. Robyn |
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14 Apr 11 - 03:30 AM (#3134867) Subject: RE: McPeake Family From: GUEST,Ewan McVicar A few years ago a Northern Irish song collector sang me in Scotland a version he'd got long before from I think a pub landlady. The version was rather half-way between Balquidder and WMT, suggesting that the song was in transition before Middle Francie McPeake possibly worked on it. Ewan |
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14 Apr 11 - 03:54 AM (#3134878) Subject: RE: McPeake Family From: Jim Carroll Many thanks to all for your assistance - I found somebody with a cassette last night and managed to copy the notes. Regarding the ownership dispute; not so long ago we had the McPeake family here as guest speakers/performers at the Willie Clancy Summer School and it was obvious that the affair still rankles with them. Originally an art song or not, I still find both the Scots and Irish versions stunningly beautiful. Jim Carroll |
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14 Apr 11 - 06:16 AM (#3134942) Subject: RE: McPeake Family From: Vin2 S'pose that's the thing about 'folk' song/music Jim, the longer a song/tune lasted and got passed down the cloudier the ownership got. The styles and variations of songs/tunes past down makes it all the more fascinating and enjoyable to the researcher and listener/performer tho understandably, as p'raps in this case, upsets those claiming original ownership. Probably doesn't won't happen as much in the future with modern archiving, recording & copywriting technology etc ? |
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14 Apr 11 - 12:42 PM (#3135164) Subject: RE: McPeake Family From: Thompson Incidentally, it's An Chualainn (The Coolin) that they're playing here. |
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14 Apr 11 - 02:05 PM (#3135221) Subject: RE: McPeake Family From: Jim McLean Jim Carroll, I think you'll find that Braes of Bowhether, by John Hamilton, published in Edinburgh in 1796 was a steal from Burns' "And I'll Kiss Thee Yet", published in 1788 (compare lyrics and melody). Tannahill's song was set to a different melody, "The Three Carles o' Buchanan" with different words but Robert A Smith set it to the same melody as Burns' song which, as already stated, was copied by John Hamilton. |
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14 Apr 11 - 02:34 PM (#3135240) Subject: RE: McPeake Family From: Jim Carroll Thanks Jim - I have no doubt you're right - my knowledge of the song screeches to a halt with Tannahill - just peeped at the old thread to confirm that I was right about that Jim Carroll |
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22 Dec 20 - 11:41 AM (#4084601) Subject: RE: McPeake Family From: FreddyHeadey James McPeake talking about playing in Moscow - he thought they had been asked to go to Glasgow! ;) https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0076ppm > @ ~ 45:35 |
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07 Jan 21 - 04:31 AM (#4086855) Subject: RE: McPeake Family From: GUEST,anonymous A question about their song the Ould Piper. In another (closed) thread the lyric is given as "He lived in the town of Ballaboreen" but I hear Aghamore. Which is correct? In the McPeake recording I heard it sounds definitely like Aghamore. |
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07 Jan 21 - 11:26 AM (#4086912) Subject: RE: McPeake Family From: GUEST sounds more like Ballamory to me |