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22 Apr 11 - 06:27 PM (#3140664) Subject: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision From: Stringsinger Some of you, myself included, have found disappointment in the way things have been going in Washington under Obama but his speech is so important. George Lakoff tells us why. It would be good to find a text of this speech and read it. It defines who we are as Americans. http://www.alternet.org/news/150645/obama_returns_to_his_moral_vision%3A_democrats_read_carefully%21 |
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22 Apr 11 - 07:14 PM (#3140683) Subject: RE: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision From: michaelr Yes, he's always been an intelligent and inspiring speechmaker. Getting things done... not so much. As Lakoff observes - and therein lies the rub - "He stayed within Republican issue-framing". Exactly. |
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22 Apr 11 - 07:23 PM (#3140689) Subject: RE: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision From: Bobert I donno... He got the Affordable Care Act thru which rivals Medicare when it was passed... He got a $700 stimulis thru... He ended Don't-ask-don't-tell... I mean, he has gotten a lot done... B~ |
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22 Apr 11 - 09:50 PM (#3140766) Subject: RE: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision From: michaelr Sorry, Bobert, I don't see those as great achievements. He took universal care off the table without even discussing it. The "stimulus" was a huge giveaway of our money to Boss Hog who didn't deserve it. You heard about their profits and bonuses? Bigger than ever. I'll give him Don't-ask-don't-tell. But what he's done most is cave in, it looks to me. |
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22 Apr 11 - 11:32 PM (#3140817) Subject: RE: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision From: katlaughing CLick On Through |
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23 Apr 11 - 11:41 AM (#3141086) Subject: RE: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision From: Stilly River Sage Good link, Kat! What Obama has done is try to set a good example by playing fair, by the rules. The GOP is still playing by Cheney's rules. That's the trouble. The gloves need to come off. SRS |
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23 Apr 11 - 12:59 PM (#3141142) Subject: RE: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision From: akenaton Slaughtering people in Libya by authorising the use of military "drones"......he just loves those things doesn't he? I was beginning to warm to him with his personal stance on Homosexual marriage, but "drone warfare" is poison as far as I am concerned.....how can it possibly defensive? He is allowing himself to be pushed and bullied by friends and foes alike.....he needs to grow some balls or get out. |
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23 Apr 11 - 01:36 PM (#3141168) Subject: RE: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity What is that??..To be another bullshitting candidate??? GfS |
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23 Apr 11 - 01:41 PM (#3141174) Subject: RE: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision From: Ebbie Some people are too damn' lazy - or perhaps, fearful? - to click on that link. |
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23 Apr 11 - 03:40 PM (#3141257) Subject: RE: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision From: akenaton Drones certainly cure paralysis |
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23 Apr 11 - 03:55 PM (#3141265) Subject: RE: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision From: artbrooks There is no doubt that the operators of Predator drones can make - and have made - mistakes. That is true of any weapons system, including the M-1 club. On the other hand, its ability to cruise at less than a 100 miles an hour while the operator identifies his target with a telescopic lens and laser-designates it for the onboard missiles certainly gives it greater accuracy than that of an attack jet that is moving ten times as fast. |
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23 Apr 11 - 05:33 PM (#3141298) Subject: RE: BS: Obama Returns to his moral vision From: Greg F. Moral Vision? Methinks its over time he made a visit to his optometrist. Which is not to say that he isn't head and shoulders above the Tea-Publicans in the morality department. |