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26 Apr 11 - 05:41 AM (#3142516) Subject: Chords requiredNever weather beaten sail From: GUEST,Gazza2 Anybody singing this Thomas Campion song with fairly simple chords? I have heard a number of versions but quite like John Conolly's version on Ranter's Wharf. Any help on working it out would be appreciated on wet and windy days in the Welsh hills. Gazza2 |
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26 Apr 11 - 09:57 AM (#3142645) Subject: RE: Chords requiredNever weather beaten sail From: GUEST,leeneia Hello, Gazza. I sympathize about the wet and windy days. We've been having wet and windy days here in the Midwest, too. Even the tulips look wet and defeated. It's a good day to sit before a warm computer and work on music. I've found a site that offers a MIDI of this song. I'll work out some chords, but they won't be John Conolly's, because I've never heard of him. If the chords are too high, you will need to make one of those circle-things that you spin and get the chords for a new key. (We can get back to you with more on that.) |
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26 Apr 11 - 10:03 AM (#3142650) Subject: RE: Chords requiredNever weather beaten sail From: JohnB If you have ever heard a song called "Fidlers Green" you should have heard of John Conolly, he wrote it. JohnB |
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26 Apr 11 - 10:33 AM (#3142655) Subject: RE: Chords requiredNever weather beaten sail From: GUEST,leeneia Thanks for the info, John. I'm trying something new (very short lines) to try to keep the chords in the right place. In the next post I'll put a link to a page that will let you print the song, and then you can transfer the chords to your copy. A chord in brackets means you can try it instead of the other, more obvious, chord. Sometimes the notes are moving stepwise and no chord really 'goes' with the measure. Use your ears and play delicately. G never D weather C beaten G sail more willing D bent to G shore. G never D ti-red C pilgrim's G limbS affected D slumber G more D than my C weary Bm sprite now Am longs to G[Bm]fly out of my troubled D[Am] breast. C o come D quickly G o come D quickly G o come Am quickly G[Em]sweetest lord and Em take my D soul to G rest. |
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26 Apr 11 - 10:34 AM (#3142656) Subject: RE: Chords requiredNever weather beaten sail From: Backwoodsman John Conolly, "Fiddler's Green" Hope it works - the IT-Control-Freaks here at the office have blocked YouTube for us mere mortals (they can watch it all the time though!) |
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26 Apr 11 - 10:41 AM (#3142659) Subject: RE: Chords requiredNever weather beaten sail From: GUEST,leeneia And they probably do. That's why they're part of the evil empire. Now, back to 'Never Weather-beaten Sail.' Here's the URL for the page that will let you make a PDF so you can transfer the chords to it. http://www.users.on.net/~algernon/never/index.html By the way, my chords prob. don't match what's in the PDF. I put down what sounds right to me without checking what was in the PDF. PS I love 'sprite' for 'spirit' in the song. It's that slippery letter r again, sliding from one place to another with the passage of time. I once studied a medieval song where brid meant bird, and bird meant bride. |
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26 Apr 11 - 10:50 AM (#3142660) Subject: RE: Chords requiredNever weather beaten sail From: Backwoodsman Did it work, Leeneia? |
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26 Apr 11 - 12:30 PM (#3142738) Subject: RE: Chords requiredNever weather beaten sail From: ClaireBear Lennia, I love your chord-writing technique. That's why I'm stealing it for my version, which is a bit melancholy/more minor key, the way I used to perform it at the Renaissance Faire. I don't have a guitar with me, so this is from memory, but I think I've got it right... G Never D weather Am beaten Em sail C more G willing D bent to G shore. G Never D ti-red Am pilgrim's Em limbS C af- G -fected D slumber G more D than my Am weary Em sprite now Am longs D to G fly out Bm of my Am troubled D breast. C o come D quickly Em o come D quickly G o Em come Am quick- D -ly G sweetest Em lord and G take my D soul to G rest. |
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26 Apr 11 - 01:29 PM (#3142783) Subject: RE: Chords requiredNever weather beaten sail From: Arthur_itus Ey up Backwoodsman. That be a cracking version of Fiddlers Green from the one and only John Conolly with Bill Whaley & Dave Fletcher supporting at Faldingworth Live. Mrs Sooz did a wonderful job of recording that. |
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26 Apr 11 - 02:28 PM (#3142834) Subject: RE: Chords requiredNever weather beaten sail From: Backwoodsman Aha! The link did work! Great! |
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26 Apr 11 - 03:11 PM (#3142852) Subject: RE: Chords requiredNever weather beaten sail From: Arthur_itus Yep, it did indeed. You sound surprised :-) |
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27 Apr 11 - 05:38 AM (#3143238) Subject: RE: Chords requiredNever weather beaten sail From: GUEST If YouTube is blocked use an anonymous browser - usually works. If they then block the anonymous browser then use another. Good game until you get the push... |
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27 Apr 11 - 11:21 AM (#3143429) Subject: RE: Chords requiredNever weather beaten sail From: GUEST,leeneia Thanks, ClaireBear. I'm impressed that you can note the chords without a guitar in hand. I think this song came from a long-forgotten play. Can't you imagine the kindly old fisherman or the old and noble duke singing this to clue the audience in that he's tired of living and doesn't want to struggle anymore? 'Melancholy and minor' seem good for that. I didn't mention this, but anyone who wants to make the chords + lyrics above look conventional can copy it all into a word-processing program, then delete excess returns. Meanwhile, GuestGazza2, where art thou? |
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28 Apr 11 - 05:18 PM (#3144330) Subject: RE: Chords requiredNever weather beaten sail From: GUEST,gazza2 Thanks for the responses folks, I'm putting it together slowly when the demands of working in a busy YHA allow! It is a lovely song and if you haven't heard John sing it with Bill Whalley on concertina then get hold of a copy of Ranters Wharf and enjoy it! |
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28 Apr 11 - 05:45 PM (#3144354) Subject: DT Corr: Never weather beaten sail (T. Campion) From: Joe Offer The Digital Tradition has this song twice, and I'm not sure we need that. Here are the two versions. I'm tempted to prefer the first one, since it came from W. Bruce Olson. Any corrections or suggestions? I see we don't have a MIDI - somebody want to send me one? joe@mudcat.org #4207 NEVER WEATHER-BEATEN SAILE (Thomas Campion) Never weather-beaten saile, more willing bent to shore Never weary pilgrims' limbs affected slumber more, Than my weary sprite now longs to fly out of my troubled breast; Oh, come quickly, Oh, come quickly, Oh, come quickly, Glorious Lord, And take my soule to rest. Oh, come quickly, Oh, come quickly, Oh, come quickly, Glorious Lord, And take my soule to rest. Ever blooming are the joyes, of heaven's high paradise; Cold age deafs not there our ears, nor vapour dims our eyes; Glory there the sun outshines, whose beams the blessed only see; Oh, come quickly, Oh, come quickly, Oh, come quickly, Glorious Lord, And raise my sprite to thee; Oh, come quickly, Oh, come quickly, Oh, come quickly, Glorious Lord, And raise my sprite to thee; [tune: Never weather-beaten saile] Written by Thomas Campion, about 1603. Popular as a hymn well into the 18th century. @religion @English filename[ NWBS WBO oct97 #1002: NEVER WEATHER-BEATEN SAILE Never weather-beaten saile, more willing bent to shore Never weary pilgrims' limbs affected slumber more, Than my weary sprite now longs to fly out of my troubled breast; Oh, come quickly, Oh, come quickly, Oh, come quickly, Glorious Lord, And take my soule to rest. Oh, come quickly, Oh, come quickly, Oh, come quickly, Glorious Lord, And take my soule to rest. Ever blooming are the joyes, of heaven's high paradise; Cold age deafs not there our ears, nor vapour dims our eyes; Glory there the sun outshines, whose beams the blessed only see; Oh, come quickly, Oh, come quickly, Oh, come quickly, Glorious Lord, And raise my sprite to thee; Oh, come quickly, Oh, come quickly, Oh, come quickly, Glorious Lord, And raise my sprite to thee; Written by Thomas Campion, about 1603. Popular as a hymn well into the 18th cen tury. filename[ NWBS XX Luminarium.org has HTML texts of the Two Books of Ayres by Campion. The main difference from our DT version is that Luminarium has "tired pilgrims" and ends the verses more simply. Luminarium uses the 1903 edition published by A.H. Bullen, which has modernized the spelling. XI
Never weather-beaten sail more willing bent to shore,
Ever blooming are the joys of heaven's high Paradise, Luninarium has another version here (click). |
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28 Apr 11 - 06:10 PM (#3144372) Subject: RE: Chords req: Never weather beaten sail (T. Campion) From: giles earle I think the First Booke of Ayres was published ca. 1613, rather than 1603. The text I have is marginally different (and has different editorial punctuation); I haven't attempted to modernise the spelling: Neuer weather-beaten Saile more willing bent to shore, Neuer tyred Pilgrims limbs affected slumber more, Than my wearied spright now longs to flye out of my troubled brest : O come quickly, sweetest Lord, and take my soule to rest. Euer-blooming are the ioys of Heau'ns high paradice, Cold age deafes not there our eares, nor vapour dims our eyes : Glory there the Sun outshines, whose beames the blessed onely see ; O come quickly, glorious Lord, and raise my spright to thee |
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28 Apr 11 - 06:20 PM (#3144381) Subject: RE: Chords req: Never weather beaten sail (T. Campion) From: ClaireBear Personally, I love the escalation from "sweetest lord" to "glorious lord" between the two verses (missing in both DT versions but present in the Book of Ayres versions), matching the mood of each verse to the nature of the supplication. My two cents... |
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29 Apr 11 - 03:19 AM (#3144559) Subject: RE: Chords req: Never weather beaten sail (T. Campion) From: Arthur_itus Just a slight correction Gazza2. It's Bill Whaley not Whally. |
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29 Apr 11 - 10:46 AM (#3144731) Subject: RE: Chords req: Never weather beaten sail (T. Campion) From: GUEST,leeneia Hello, Joe. You can find a MIDI of this song at this page: http://www.users.on.net/~algernon/never/index.html I've downloaded the song from here and crafted a prelude and a postlude for church based on the tune. |
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29 Apr 11 - 11:28 AM (#3144750) Subject: RE: Chords req: Never weather beaten sail (T. Campion) From: Jack Campin
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01 Feb 12 - 10:18 PM (#3300608) Subject: RE: Chords req: Never weather beaten sail (T. Campion) From: GUEST Thank you EVERYONE!!! I needed this as well! |
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02 Feb 12 - 11:27 AM (#3300892) Subject: RE: Chords req: Never weather beaten sail (T. Campion) From: GUEST,leeneia You're very welcome. How nice it is to know someone is going to play the music we post. |
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02 Feb 12 - 12:24 PM (#3300930) Subject: RE: Chords req: Never weather beaten sail (T. Campion) From: gnomad As this thread started from the version recorded in 2004 by John Conolly & Co, it seems appropriate to post the version he used, if only for any future scholars interested in the evolution of this piece. JC's sleeve-note in full runs as follows: 'Never weatherbeaten sail. An old mariners' hymn, which appeared in Thomas Campion's "First Book Of Ayres" in 1613. The first verse was full of wonderful maritime imagery but, alas, it had all disappeared from the more seriously religious second verse, so I took the liberty of putting it back.' Never weather-beaten sail more willing came to shore, Never weary mariner did pray for harbour more, Than my troubled spirit longs to fly from out my weary breast, Still the waters, still the waters, still the waters dearest Lord, And take my soul to rest, Still the waters, still the waters, still the waters dearest Lord, And take my soul to rest. Ever-blooming are the joys of heaven's high paradise, Where no wild wind's thunderous noise nor storm-clouds dim the skies, Glory there the sun outshines whose beams are seen but by the bless'd, Still the waters, still the waters, still the waters dearest Lord, And take my soul to rest, Still the waters, still the waters, still the waters dearest Lord, And take my soul to rest. Repeat verse 1 |