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What is a 'bumper'?

02 May 11 - 10:11 AM (#3146432)
Subject: What is a 'bumper'?
From: GUEST,Martin Farrell

As in to drain a bumper? Is the bumper the vessel or the measure of the ale or wine?


02 May 11 - 10:38 AM (#3146443)
Subject: RE: What is a 'bumper'?
From: MGM·Lion

Googling produced ---

Definition of bumper (noun) - a cup or glass filled to the brim, especially one to be drunk as a toast or health.

~Michael~


02 May 11 - 10:43 AM (#3146446)
Subject: RE: What is a 'bumper'?
From: GUEST

Thanks Michael.


02 May 11 - 10:49 AM (#3146449)
Subject: RE: What is a 'bumper'?
From: Leadfingers

Thats the O E D definition too !


02 May 11 - 11:26 AM (#3146468)
Subject: RE: What is a 'bumper'?
From: GUEST,Brad Sondahl

Pour, oh pour the pirate sherry, fill, oh fill the pirate glass!
And to make us more than merry, let the pirate bumper pass!
(Pirates of Penzance)


02 May 11 - 11:38 AM (#3146479)
Subject: RE: What is a 'bumper'?
From: cobra

A bumper is also the last race on a National Hunt meeting card. Not over jumps but a flat race for steeplechasers/ hurdlers.

So, draining the bumper could well be the act of taking the bookies to the cleaners!


02 May 11 - 02:05 PM (#3146570)
Subject: RE: What is a 'bumper'?
From: Bonzo3legs

from "The Ophean Lyre", No. 7, 2nd Series.
Cantaining a Collection of the Most Harmonious
Glees, Catches & Duets:
Arranged With Accompaniments for the Piano Forte.

"Here's a Health to All Good Lasses" (1837)
[a Glee for Three Voices (TTB)]
arranged for the Piano Forte by a Professor.

Boston: Oliver Ditson, 117 Washington St.
[Source: 098/100@Levy]

[With various repititions and overlapping voices]
Here's a health to all good lasses,
Pledge it merrily, fill your glasses
Let a bumper toast go round.

May they live a life of pleasure,
Without mixture, without measure,
For with them true joys are found.

All good lasses
Here's a bumper.

Here's a health to all good lasses,
Pledge it merrily, fill your glasses
Let a bumper toast go round.

The Mellstock Band do a wonderful version of this!


02 May 11 - 02:36 PM (#3146589)
Subject: RE: What is a 'bumper'?
From: Dave the Gnome

Or, as are residents used to sing

Let every man here drink of his full bumper
(Drink it of, drink it of)
Let every man here toss back his full glass
(Toss him off, toss him off)

Doesn't take much to bring it to the gutter I suppose.

Sorry...

MP


02 May 11 - 02:46 PM (#3146595)
Subject: RE: What is a 'bumper'?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Or upstreet- "Here's a health to thee, Tom Moore."


02 May 11 - 03:28 PM (#3146624)
Subject: RE: What is a 'bumper'?
From: fat B****rd

Harry 'Breaker' Morant uses the word in his poem 'Butchered to Make a Dutchman's Holiday'

Let's toss a bumper down our throat, -
   Before we pass to Heaven,
And toast: "The trim-set petticoat
   We leave behind in Devon."


02 May 11 - 08:08 PM (#3146783)
Subject: RE: What is a 'bumper'?
From: Gurney

Also, in English: The fender or nerf bar of a car/automobile, and

in English slang: a canvas shoe, particularly one with high rubber edges like a baseball shoe.


03 May 11 - 09:52 AM (#3147063)
Subject: RE: What is a 'bumper'?
From: GUEST,Pete

That's a plimsoll surely. What we soft southern shandy drinking poofters wore before trainers came along.


03 May 11 - 10:09 AM (#3147071)
Subject: RE: What is a 'bumper'?
From: GUEST,leeneia

What's the meaning of the O'Carolan tune called "Bumper Squire Jones"?


03 May 11 - 10:57 AM (#3147094)
Subject: RE: What is a 'bumper'?
From: Will Fly

"Bumper" is also used to mean large or extra-large - as in "The Boy's Bumper Christmas Annual For 1932", etc.


03 May 11 - 11:25 AM (#3147111)
Subject: RE: What is a 'bumper'?
From: MGM·Lion

Will ~~ I take this last usage to derive from the "full to the brim" implication of the noun under discussion: a "Bumper" issue being one even fuller of good things than usual.

~M~


03 May 11 - 11:31 AM (#3147117)
Subject: RE: What is a 'bumper'?
From: Steve Gardham

That's exactly what I was going to say, Michael. It has a wider meaning 'full to the brim'.


03 May 11 - 11:33 AM (#3147118)
Subject: RE: What is a 'bumper'?
From: Will Fly

You may well be right, Michael. It's a book title usage that seems to have been popular before the war (WWII) and then fallen away. When I was a kid and had some of these children's annuals - usually around Christmas time - I never gave the actual much thought! Just assumed it meant "bigger than ever", etc.

We still hear the phrase "a bumper crop", though.


03 May 11 - 11:34 AM (#3147120)
Subject: RE: What is a 'bumper'?
From: Will Fly

"I never gave the actual much thought"

should, of course, have read: "I never gave the actual word much thought"


03 May 11 - 11:48 AM (#3147128)
Subject: RE: What is a 'bumper'?
From: GUEST,leeneia

I should have remembered to check my unabridged dictionary, which says that bumper is 'colloq' and may mean:

unusually large, good, fine or successful.

O'Carolan's Bumper Squire Jones was probably all of the above.


03 May 11 - 06:13 PM (#3147326)
Subject: RE: What is a 'bumper'?
From: Steve Gardham

A quick look in my broadside index gives us 'A Bumper of Good Liquor', 'A Bumper to Erin' and 'Bumper Squire Jones, a New Playhouse Song' sung by Mr Beard. The last one appears in 18thc garlands in the BL.


03 May 11 - 06:27 PM (#3147331)
Subject: RE: What is a 'bumper'?
From: Richard in Manchester

It's a cricket ball (archaic, colloq,;) of the type which, having pitched, smashes your teeth.