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16 May 11 - 08:21 AM (#3155029) Subject: video shooting at parties? From: Deckman We had an incident happen at a private gathering at our house yesterday that caused me to ask this question: How do you feel about folks taking camera videos of private jam sessions? Here's what happenned: We had a housefull of professional musicians. We were letting our hair down, so to speak. Jamming together, telling bad jokes, and just enjoying each other. One person, who is not a performer but is a long time friend, started to take a video of a couple of performers. The lady of the duo stopped him, saying she preferred him to NOT take videos. The person with the camera took this poorly, and he left shortly afterwards. I was so busy with other things that I didn't catch the event until afterwards. Any thoughts? Thanks, bob(deckman)nelson |
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16 May 11 - 08:26 AM (#3155031) Subject: RE: video shooting at parties? From: Will Fly I can only say that, with the popularity of YouTube and similar sites, it's always a good policy these days to ask in advance if anyone at a party objects to being filmed. Particularly if the people there are professional entertainers. Just good manners - you might be at a party with someone you're not supposed to be with and - lo and behold - there you both are on YouTube! |
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16 May 11 - 08:35 AM (#3155037) Subject: RE: video shooting at parties? From: Marje I think the lady was right to ask him to stop, and he had no reason to take offence. He should have asked permission - yours and theirs. I'm not even a professional, but I dislike being filmed playing or singing (or talking, or eating, or anything else really) unless there's a good reason and I've given permission. I don't like to find I am suddenly the subject of someone else's film. People with video cameras should ask permission before doing this, and not take offence if it's refused. I know that with mobile-phone cameras, this sort of thing happens more and more, but that doesn't make it right, and there should still be some common courtesies observed when it comes to filming people, particularly if they're well known and could be caught off their guard. How did the rest of the guests react, do you know? Marje |
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16 May 11 - 08:40 AM (#3155042) Subject: RE: video shooting at parties? From: Leadfingers Permission should ALWAYS be sought ! PERIOD! |
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16 May 11 - 09:05 AM (#3155061) Subject: RE: video shooting at parties? From: Deckman As usual, our room was too small and the gang was too large. It was quiet noisy, but I happened to catch the incident out of the corner of my eye. I noticed several of the performers glance at each other with a look of approval. And I overheard several performers later thank the lady for speaking up. At my age of 174, I guess I need to focus up more look for cameras BEFORE they are used? bob |
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16 May 11 - 09:06 AM (#3155063) Subject: RE: video shooting at parties? From: Midchuck Permission should ALWAYS be sought ! PERIOD! I strongly agree - IF the location is a private residence, or a paid concert, etc., or a by-invitation function of any sort. If it's in a completely public place, i. e. a busker on the street, a street fair or concert, I see no problem in filming at will. Peter |
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16 May 11 - 03:04 PM (#3155272) Subject: RE: video shooting at parties? From: Jim Dixon It sounds like the kind of party that would have been boring for a non-musician. Maybe that's why he left early. He couldn't play. It was too noisy to have a conversation. What was there for him to do? The one thing he tried to do didn't go over well. I think I would have left too, under the circumstances. |
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16 May 11 - 04:29 PM (#3155332) Subject: RE: video shooting at parties? From: GUEST,PeterC you might be at a party with someone you're not supposed to be with and - lo and behold - there you both are on YouTube! I have known things come close to blows when somebody was filming the dancers at a ceilidh. |
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16 May 11 - 05:21 PM (#3155355) Subject: RE: video shooting at parties? From: Bernard Permission for publication is always needed, otherwise it's a Human Rights violation. The fact that it's a private party is irrelevant once the intention is to make it public property. If the videos are for personal and private use, that is a completely different matter between the photographer and the person being 'filmed'. |
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17 May 11 - 10:25 AM (#3155707) Subject: RE: video shooting at parties? From: GUEST,leeneia "Permission for publication is always needed, otherwise it's a Human Rights violation." That may be true where you live, Bernard, but it's not true where I live - Missouri, USA. We had an interesting thing happen where a callow youth was abusing a pretty little beagle puppy. The police said it wasn't bad enough to do anything, but a neighbor put a video on the Internet. After being denounced by people from South Africa to the house next door, the guy quickly decided to give the puppy to a good home. |
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17 May 11 - 01:28 PM (#3155803) Subject: RE: video shooting at parties? From: Jack Campin Permission for publication is always needed, otherwise it's a Human Rights violation. That may be true where you live, Bernard, but it's not true where I live It's not true, full stop. Inconsiderate, maybe sometimes. Illegal, no. If it were, photojournalism would be impossible. |