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31 May 11 - 09:54 PM (#3163437)
Subject: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: Bobert

Sorry to have to ask so much stuff but...

Seems that there's a annoying smell of urine in the carpet going up the steps to the new house and I'd kinda like to make it go away...

Any ideas???

No, rap... I ain't gonna burn the house down!!!

B~


31 May 11 - 09:56 PM (#3163438)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: Rapparee

Try Febreze for Pets...if that doesn't work there are a bunch of other "pet odor" removers out there.

OR! Replace the carpet!


31 May 11 - 09:59 PM (#3163443)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: Bobert

Don't smell like pet urine, Rap... But, okay, I'll try it...

B~


31 May 11 - 10:10 PM (#3163449)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: Rapparee

Well, somebody done went and peed on yer steps. Don't matter none -- the problem is not mine but your'n.


31 May 11 - 10:14 PM (#3163450)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: wysiwyg

Nononono... first you get the magic enzyme thingie. It EATS the organic odor-ingredients. It's exactly the same stuff as you'd put in the RV's waste tank, MINUS the nasty deodorizing smell those products have. Carpet cleaning pros use it all the time. I think they put it right into the rug shampoo nowadays. Or it can be a separate step. (I'm outta that biz a LONG time.)

THEN after that all dries you use the Febreze if a smell lingers.

That said, it will never come out if it's down in the pad. For that you gotta peel up the rug, send it out to be cleaned with enzymes, and put down a new pad, and, if it's wall to wall, restretch just like a new install.

But when you peel it up.... that is also when you see how widely the stuff had spread on the carpet's underside, and sometimes you'll see that the backing is rotted as well. Cuz that stuff is hard on burlap. An' it sits and sets..... this is why landlords do not allow pets. Major expense to undo peepee and poopoo.

~Former househiold cleaning service mgr/estimator


31 May 11 - 10:20 PM (#3163456)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: Rapparee

I actually do defer to the experts. Bobert, do what she says!


31 May 11 - 10:30 PM (#3163460)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: Bobert

Hey, sounds like WYSuzie knows what she is talkin' about, Rap...

Thanks, Suze... Man, I hope it ain't in the pad... I know what black peed-on carpet padding looks and smells like... Not somethin' you'll find on an dinner menus even in the worst of eateries... Yuck!!!

B~


31 May 11 - 10:33 PM (#3163463)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: Rapparee

And if the carpet is put down with those strips that have nails pointing up it could even be in the wood -- even the studs. We didn't buy a place just two door up from our house because there was cat pee in the carpet, pad, wall studs, sill plate....


31 May 11 - 10:49 PM (#3163471)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: ranger1

Nature's Miracle is the name of the enzyme stuff. If it can get the smell of cat pee out, it can get rid of just about anything.

You gonna do DNA testing and findd out what peed on your steps?


31 May 11 - 10:55 PM (#3163475)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: Donuel

At pet smart stores they have the expensive plain lable enzyme and the cheaper enzyme product that has a foul oderant added.

Get the expensive one.

You can add it to the wash cycle too. You put it where the bleach would go.


31 May 11 - 11:02 PM (#3163479)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: Bobert

DNA testin'???

Hmmmmm???

Yo, Rap,,, This is a stair runner... I ain't gonna go puttin' that in no washer machine...

I mean, what the heck I look like??? A stoned hillbilly??? Or what???

...

B~


31 May 11 - 11:02 PM (#3163480)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: Rapparee

Ah, Bobert old bean, I hate to bring this up, but are YOU sure YOU'RE housebroke? I know what Iron City can do and, well, I know you're fond of it and all.


31 May 11 - 11:05 PM (#3163482)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: Ebbie

Interestingly enough, just last night a very bright fella I don't see often was telling me about what he did about cat pee. Went to the wooden floor, covered it with x number of coats of nail polish and ended with ureathane and paint. Said you can't smell it today no matter how good your smeller is.


31 May 11 - 11:15 PM (#3163490)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

May I suggest not peeing on the carpets? P-Vine might get pissed off at you!!

BTW, there is a product called 'Odo-Ban'....works every time!

Try this

GfS


01 Jun 11 - 12:00 AM (#3163506)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle

Perhaps its the state smell. Perhaps it smells like that everywhere, and North Carolinans just need to get a sniff of it to swell up with pride. Reminds them of home, and the cat by the fireside.


01 Jun 11 - 12:14 AM (#3163510)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Alan Whittle brings up a great point!....Bobert, are you IN the room when it smells that way?..then does the stage smell that way, when you're on it?....How about the car??...the bar?...the restaurant?...church, too?...and is P-Vine always trying to change your sheets, while you're still in the bed?????

(wink)
GfS


01 Jun 11 - 02:28 AM (#3163538)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: GUEST,Patsy

Dab with white wine, soak it up, dry, rinse with very hot water, soak it up, dry then Fabreze it. If that doesn't work replace that area of carpet.


01 Jun 11 - 02:41 AM (#3163540)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Odo-Ban!!!

GfS


01 Jun 11 - 05:48 AM (#3163585)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: McGrath of Harlow

Try sprinkling it with bicarbonate of soda.


01 Jun 11 - 07:08 AM (#3163619)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: ranger1

Fabreze is nasty stuff. And it doesn't take the smell out, it just covers it up with another offensive odor.


01 Jun 11 - 07:46 AM (#3163641)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: Bobert

Well, today is already completely cluttered with other stuff so I'll have to save this one for tomorrow...

BTW, it isn't like the official NC state stink... I think that belongs to the UNC men's basketball team... lol... Go Terps... Nevermind...

B~


01 Jun 11 - 08:27 AM (#3163659)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: Jack Campin

There is a commercial product, "Urine Neutraliser", sold by the gallon in bulk to places like nursing homes where this is a more than a wee problem. It works.

Prochem B153

They've produced a trickle of related products.

Oxygen bleach or peroxide works too.


01 Jun 11 - 08:32 AM (#3163664)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: SINSULL

NOT FEBREZE.
Your house will smell like a pissed on flower bed.
Soak the area with Nature's Miracle.


01 Jun 11 - 09:01 AM (#3163676)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: Donuel

Just get a potted short needle pine and blame it.


01 Jun 11 - 09:27 AM (#3163697)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: JohnInKansas

As noted, if the pee has penetrated the wood (or whatever else is under the carpet) you may not be able to get it out, and replacing the steps might be in order.

The odor from what's in the carpet will disappear if you get the "what" out, and for most contaminants you can do a pretty good job with just a garden hose and a good "wet-vac" vacuum cleaner.

Wet the carpet down until it's "soppy" and then suck at least until you can't feel any moisture when you run your hand over it. Keep sucking even when you're not getting "liquid" so that you draw air through until it's pretty much dried.

Repeat until your vacuum cleaner burns out or until you're satisfied with the success of the cleaning.

There are a number of "cleaners" intended for use with "wet-vac carpet machines" that can be a help. The ones usually available with the "rent-a-cleaner" machines are okay for ordinary soil but not much use on "stubborn stuff." If you check your local lumber supplier, you may find some "industrial strength" stuff that will take engine oil and chewing gum out of the carpet. If you look for something labelled as a "high traffic carpet cleaner" you may find an "incredibly strong" kind.

I've used one such "high traffic cleaner" mixed in a pump-up garden sprayer to soak down the carpet, with my Shop-Vac to suck it back out, and successfully changed "black axle grease" (steps from garage to house) to fluffy pale blue (the original carpet color), but did find that the "cleaner" goes right through the shop vac, and the "vapor" will make you feel like you're sunburnt, and will eat the (plastic) lenses out of your spectacles - so use due caution if you go with an aggressive chemical cleaner.

The pee that's your problem is probably water soluble so you shouldn't need strong stuff, but you might need to adjust the pH of your "solution." Alternate applications with a little white vinegar (for more acid) and then with bicarb (baking soda for more alkaline) solutions may help with dissolving what's there.

Soak it and Suck it. Do it enough times and you should be able to get just about anything out of the rag.

When you get done with the cleaning, blowing a fan on the spot for a few hours may be in order for final drying - to avoid any possibility of mildew.

If you find that you really can't get it clean I suppose you might try one of the "neutralizes" or "cover-it-ups" that the pet shops sell for amateiuar use by those who don't know how to clean what's cleanable.

YOU CAN'T GET ANYTHING CLEAN WITHOUT GETTING SOMETHING ELSE DIRTY.

YOU CAN GET EVERYTHING DIRTY WITHOUT GETTING ANYTHING CLEAN.

          (Murphy?)

John


01 Jun 11 - 10:14 AM (#3163718)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: GUEST,alan Whittle

perhaps someone with more fragrant wee will piss on it for you.


01 Jun 11 - 10:17 AM (#3163722)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle

English men will immediately think of Mary Archer as apossible piss donor. But stateside I guess there will be a few come to mind.


01 Jun 11 - 11:27 AM (#3163746)
Subject: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: Bobert

...the vent for the air conditioner in the main flourier???

Yup, I have been assuming that it was in the carpet because you only smell it going up the steps... Ahhhhhh, kinda where the air from the blows???

This is worse, I think, than the carpet... It means that some critter has figured out how to get into the vent and set up a latrine in the vent work???

I'm going to talk with my HVAC guy and maybe get him to check it out...

No matter...

I learned a lot about cleaning pee from carpet... Maybe I should go pee down the steps as a test case for all the knowledge I now have...

Nah... Too busy for that... No, not the peein' part but the cleaning up... Sounds like a good winter project...

B;~)


01 Jun 11 - 11:48 AM (#3163757)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: GUEST,999

You be asking for trouble if it`s 40 below. Just a word to the wise!


01 Jun 11 - 11:56 AM (#3163764)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: Amos

It may be from the actual concrete or timber UNDER the carpet.

A


01 Jun 11 - 12:15 PM (#3163768)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: GUEST,999

He`s gonna start going outside, Amos. P-vine has him trained, but he ain`t housebroke yet!


01 Jun 11 - 12:20 PM (#3163770)
Subject: RE: BS: Gettin' Urine Smell outta Carpet???
From: frogprince

You gotta face one of life's basic facts: a country boy will pee damn near anywhere.


01 Jun 11 - 01:09 PM (#3163795)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle

its hard to pee vent this sort of thing.


01 Jun 11 - 01:28 PM (#3163802)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Amos: "It may be from the actual concrete or timber UNDER the carpet."

He is correct, so to alleviate that, you'd need to use polyurethane under the carpet, directly over the sub-floor, to lock it in. Other than that,..and I've mentioned it before, 'Odo-Ban'...cheap, too..about 10 bucks a gallon, and it lasts forever. You could be in a room, with a dozen people smoking cigars, pot, teasing a skunk, vomiting all over the place, and splashing diarrhea, on the furniture....when there is a knock on the door.....it's P-Vine and the cops, along with your local bishop......a couple of shots of that, from the spray bottle, and you would INSTANTLY be innocent!!!! They sell it at 'Sam's', hardware stores, and places like that...(I'm not sure about 'Cosco')....but once you've tried it, you'll always keep some on hand....just for such wondrous occasions!...in your case you could spray some directly on the floor, too...along with your armpits, and back of your underpants, where all those 'nicotine stains' are!!....AND for you, the best part of all....I don't think it's Republican!!!

Just shut up, and go get some...you can sue me later!....but at least you can meet with your attorney, in your living room, without running him out!

Easy, cheap, and it works!!.......(if not, you can always put it on a government benefits program!)

Jeez....such boneheads!!

Regards to the Pisser!!

GfS


01 Jun 11 - 01:30 PM (#3163803)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Guess,999: "He`s gonna start going outside, Amos. P-vine has him trained, but he ain`t housebroke yet!"

Maybe that's why P-Vine don't want to clean up the yard, before she gets him to mow it!!!

GfS


01 Jun 11 - 01:43 PM (#3163809)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: MAG

odormute works better than natures miracle --


01 Jun 11 - 01:48 PM (#3163812)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: David C. Carter

I think Bobert's pissin' in the wind with all this advice!

A couple of drops of Nitroglycerin should make a hole in the problem!

Just a thought.

David


01 Jun 11 - 01:57 PM (#3163821)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Jeez, Bobert has no dignity!...Now the whole world knows his house smells like pee!!.....No wonder, he likes picnics!

GfS


01 Jun 11 - 02:11 PM (#3163829)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: katlaughing

You can get KILZ and paint it over on the spot to trap and kill the smell. It also works on mold and mildew.


01 Jun 11 - 02:14 PM (#3163833)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Yeah, but that's UNDER the carpet..on the floor, itself, as pointed out by Amos...who is also correct, about that, (and that only!)

Wink,

GfS

P.S. Think we'll make it to 50?


01 Jun 11 - 02:54 PM (#3163850)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: michaelr

Ebbie -- great Freudian typo there: ureathane!


01 Jun 11 - 03:53 PM (#3163868)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: Rapparee

Well, if it's in the AC vent it's easier to solve. Replace the entire system, ductwork and all. (It's probable that the smell is coming from an air intake vent. Some doggie or kitty or young kid peed in the air intake. Be sure to check it for rust and corrosion.)


01 Jun 11 - 04:10 PM (#3163882)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: gnu

Oh, if I bought a house and then that happened it would piss me off to no end. AND, I would enjoin the sellers and the real estate agent and the real estate company if the costs to rectify the situation became oderous.

Now, there's Freudy fer yas.


01 Jun 11 - 07:32 PM (#3163954)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: Bobert

IT AIN'T UNNER THE CARPET, YA'LL...

(Sorry for the Scream)

It's in one particular HVAC duct...

(Sheesh... Bunch of danged illiterate reprobates here, Bobz...)

Yeah...

B~


01 Jun 11 - 07:39 PM (#3163957)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: gnu

Then it's a simple problem. Sniff it out and snuff it out.


01 Jun 11 - 08:58 PM (#3163978)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: Bill D

Brothers...let us spray!


01 Jun 11 - 10:11 PM (#3164001)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: frogprince

Just pee on the carpet; then you won't notice the smell from the duct.


01 Jun 11 - 11:08 PM (#3164009)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: Stilly River Sage

I'll skip to the bottom. I skimmed and saw @Ranger1 with the same stuff I would recommend (is the company public? I'd like to buy stock!). Nature's Miracle. Go to your local Petsmart or Petco and find the white bottle with red lettering - they have several products for you to choose from. All things considered, it is very reasonably priced. I use the Skunk Odor Remover (don't wash the dog first, don't fool with tomato juice, just spray this stuff on the front end of the dog that the skunk hit. I don't wash my dogs after they get skunked any more, I just spray them with this stuff several times and let it dry between applications).

These enzyme treatments work better than anything else. You can also find them at janitorial supply places (under different names, but they do the same thing). Be patient, remove the foam pad and replace it, that stuff is cheap, and soak the enzyme into the underlayment, whatever it is, wood or concrete, before you put new foam and the carpet back down. It really does work.

SRS


02 Jun 11 - 01:28 AM (#3164034)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Start farting in the ducts..then you'll have a full flavored homey aroma!!!

And BTW, the seller might have taken out an insurance on the house when they listed it. You're realtor would know about it. They, the insurance, would cover the cost of the correction....shit, get new carpets!..or ducts..or even a toilet with a wider mouth!...but the 'depends' you'd have to cover!

Now when I think of you, I'll remember P-Vine and the urine smell!..Its all relative!!

GfS


02 Jun 11 - 02:59 AM (#3164049)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: GUEST,Patsy

Tom cat pee has to be the worst smell if left to linger and even if you think you have got rid of it along they come again and spray everywhere no matter how you mask it. Disinfectant sometimes can have the same effect as Fabreze only it's a more of an institutional smell.


02 Jun 11 - 03:10 AM (#3164050)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Yea!! 51!...now we get one of those bottoms up things to click!..



Odo-Ban is it..it is MADE for that use...spray it in the ducts...

GfS


02 Jun 11 - 09:11 AM (#3164163)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: Bobert

I don't want to mask the smell... I want the source gone... The HVAC guy can find the section of duct work and replace it... Duct work ain't all that expensive...

B~


02 Jun 11 - 09:53 AM (#3164182)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: Rapparee

It is if the plumbing is leaving into the ductwork, or the builder didn't that ductwork isn't plumbing pipe.

Do you hear the noise of water rushing in the ducts when you flush?


02 Jun 11 - 11:48 AM (#3164219)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: Stilly River Sage

The enzyme doesn't mask it, it eats it up slowly. Good luck.


02 Jun 11 - 12:16 PM (#3164234)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: John P

We moved into a house last year where the previous owner had left her dogs and cat in the basement a lot. The carpets were completely stinky and the enzyme stuff as well as professional cleaning didn't do away with it. After a few months we ended up ripping out all the carpet. The paneling on the walls was so soaked with dog urine that it was coming delaminated. So that got pulled out as well. Now we have nicely painted drywall, cork floors, and no money. But also no stink!

Give up. Rip it out and start over. This one is bigger than you.


02 Jun 11 - 03:08 PM (#3164313)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: gnu

Bobert is gonna have an inyourism.


02 Jun 11 - 10:03 PM (#3164495)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: Rapparee

Let's see: he wants to fill his pond AND he has a problem peeing in his ductwork. Couldn't both of these be worked out somehow? Hmmm?


03 Jun 11 - 01:39 AM (#3164550)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: JohnInKansas

Even if the ductwork isn't easily accessible for replacement, most air ducts are large enough to be cleaned with appropriate equipment, although it's not usually a DIY job. If the duct stinks, it means there's contamination in it; and the same kinds of contaminants that produce odors are also prone to producing "infections" that can be a very serious health hazard.

BOBERT HAS IT RIGHT: the ductwork needs to be professionally cleaned and/or replaced.

The cleaning should give some indication of the source of the odor, which may be anything from a dead animal to accumulated dust or to a "condensate" problem with mold/mildew. Depending on what's found by the cleaning, some additional corrective action may be indicated to prevent recurrance of the problem; but nobody can predict what will be found until something is sucked out and identified.

OF COURSE the initial assumption that it was "pee on the back steps" is a cause for our concern about Bobert's level of cultural/social acclimation and behavioural deviances (who did he think might have pee'd there?) but his (so far as we know) accurate assessment of the real problem, and immediate selection of the appropriate remedies speaks of intelligence and clear insight on a par with the best of us here, despite being somewhat unexpected in an illigit unsophisticated hillbilly of the kind he affects to be.

And we should not hold it against him for not having total control of his wet spot(s), any more than we blame Bill D for having no functional nipple. My money's on Bobert to solve that wet spot problem (if he thinks it worthwhile) long before Bill D makes his nipple work.

John


03 Jun 11 - 07:41 AM (#3164657)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: GUEST,Patsy

The good news is that urine is sterile it's when it is mixed with 'other' stuff it becomes full of bacteria. Here is hoping you get it sorted out for the weekend and before it get's any hotter.


03 Jun 11 - 10:22 AM (#3164705)
Subject: RE: BS: Pee smell not in carpet... It's in...
From: Rapparee

Bobert, I'm going to pass on to you the second-last thing my sainted Momma told me before I left home. She raised herself up on her cane in the iron lung and said, "Don't pee in the pipes."

I've always tried to live by that advice.

The last thing she said to me when I left home was, "And don't come back!"