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18 Aug 11 - 01:55 PM (#3208944) Subject: BS: Homeless Vets From: PHJim I heard a radio documentary on the homeless yesterday and one of the facts that they stated was that in the USA, one in four homeless are combat vets. I found this hard to believe and wonder if the stats in Canada are similar. |
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18 Aug 11 - 01:59 PM (#3208946) Subject: RE: BS: Homeless Vets From: PHJim Homeless Vets |
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18 Aug 11 - 02:55 PM (#3208991) Subject: RE: BS: Homeless Vets From: Q (Frank Staplin) The correct statement should be one in four homeless men are veterans. Most are sheltered (place to sleep at night, food provided). Health care and job training was poor for veterans, particularly veterans of the Vietnam War. About 40% of homeless are single men. Of these, 23% are veterans. One-fourth of 40% = 10%. Add to this the male members, who were veterans, of the 40% of homeless who are families with children. Most of these homeless are sheltered. (Department of Housing and Urban Development Figures, summarized in Wikipedia, "Homelessness in the United States") |
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18 Aug 11 - 03:09 PM (#3209003) Subject: RE: BS: Homeless Vets From: Dave Hanson This got me thinking, why should vetrinary surgeons be homeless ? Dave H |
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18 Aug 11 - 03:11 PM (#3209007) Subject: RE: BS: Homeless Vets From: Q (Frank Staplin) vetrinary? can't find in dictionary. |
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18 Aug 11 - 03:13 PM (#3209009) Subject: RE: BS: Homeless Vets From: gnu 1 in 4? That is disgusting. Any homeless is apalling, of course. |
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18 Aug 11 - 03:27 PM (#3209022) Subject: RE: BS: Homeless Vets From: Q (Frank Staplin) Homeless in Canada- Federal estimate is about 150,000 but homeless advocates estimate the number is closer to 300,000. Proportionally, this is about the same as the U.S. figures. A UN representative who looked at Canada in 2007 lamented the absence of verifiable figures, and lack of breakdown into categories. I couldn't find the percentage 'sheltered'. |
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18 Aug 11 - 04:07 PM (#3209050) Subject: RE: BS: Homeless Vets From: Greg F. What's the big deal? Them folks in the Tea Potty will just stick a few more yellow "Support The Troops" magnets on their SUV's and everything'll be all right. Problem solved. |
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18 Aug 11 - 05:35 PM (#3209096) Subject: RE: BS: Homeless Vets From: Smokey. We call animal doctors in the UK 'vets', because veterinary surgeons is a bit of a gobfull. |
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18 Aug 11 - 06:07 PM (#3209117) Subject: RE: BS: Homeless Vets From: Q (Frank Staplin) We call animal doctors in N. Am. 'vets' because veterinary surgeons are a bit of a mouthful. |
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18 Aug 11 - 06:23 PM (#3209123) Subject: RE: BS: Homeless Vets From: Smokey. No, I couldn't eat a whole one either. |
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19 Aug 11 - 01:53 PM (#3209520) Subject: RE: BS: Homeless Vets From: Charmion There is practically no hard information about the homelessness among Canadian Forces veterans available to the public. If there is any knowledgeable opinion on the subject, it is most likely to be found in organizations such as Veterans of U.N. Peacekeeping, Canadian Army Veterans (yes, it's a motorcycle club) and the Royal Canadian Legion. I doubt you'd get a straight answer -- even "We have no idea" -- from the Department of Veterans' Affairs. |
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19 Aug 11 - 01:53 PM (#3209521) Subject: RE: BS: Homeless Vets From: olddude Ebbie is the one that could tell us for sure ... She is the most experienced with helping the homeless God Bless Her Any homeless is appalling in a country that has so much like America .. Remember when Reagan cut funding and they opened up all the mental hospitals telling the patients they are cured be on your way. Thousands walking around barefoot in the cities , homeless ... disgrace .. |
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19 Aug 11 - 02:14 PM (#3209539) Subject: RE: BS: Homeless Vets From: Jeri National Coalition for Homeless Veterans Demographics of homeless veterans It's somewhat dated, but I'm not sure things haven't gotten worse. |
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19 Aug 11 - 02:56 PM (#3209561) Subject: RE: BS: Homeless Vets From: GUEST,leeneia Our women's shelter is building an addition because the number of women (and their children) seeking shelter from abusive men has risen significantly. The number has risen because the police are now using a set of 11 questions that they ask the victim in a domestic abuse situation. It is a methodical way of establishing whether the person is in danger. (IIRC, for example: Has he ever choked you? Beaten the children? Threatened to kill you? Does he have a gun?) (There are shelters for men, too, but the problem with women is much greater.) I'm glad the police are asking the questions, but I'm sad that it took so long for somebody to implement the idea. We gave some money for the new shelter. |
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19 Aug 11 - 03:36 PM (#3209580) Subject: RE: BS: Homeless Vets From: gnu One of the reasons police in many jurisdictions are not even allowed to ask such questions is that in a subsequent court case the questions and answers or the answers ALONE cannot be used as testimony as the victims may be deemed to have been "led on". This has been much debated in child abuse cases and has been shown to be grounds for dismissal. It is debatable in cases involving adults but the similarities for sharp laywers to exploit such doubt exists. Of course, if such Q&As are effective in providing immediate assistance and protection to the victim, it's a good thing. Likely, such procedures far outweigh the possibility of negative impact in prosecution of the perpetrator. I'll bet that is good for another hundred posts. |
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19 Aug 11 - 03:39 PM (#3209583) Subject: RE: BS: Homeless Vets From: Jeri A lot of them are veterans then? |
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19 Aug 11 - 03:45 PM (#3209587) Subject: RE: BS: Homeless Vets From: gnu Hmmmm... cornflake problem? Sorry... just makin a joke eh. |
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19 Aug 11 - 03:51 PM (#3209590) Subject: RE: BS: Homeless Vets From: gnu Sorry for the thread drift, Jeri. It's a serious problem, as I said above. |