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02 Sep 11 - 04:19 PM (#3217239) Subject: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: Will Fly I'm just watching "Rock Goes Acoustic" on BBC4 (UK TV) - seems strangely unsatisfying and vapid for some reason - or it is just me? Anyone else watching it? |
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02 Sep 11 - 04:27 PM (#3217244) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: Will Fly Apparently it's "heroic" to be able to stand in front of an audience with just an acoustic guitar - true "nobility"... according to rock musicians like Johnny Marr. Well, I'll be buggered - hadn't realised so many of us were heroic and noble. |
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02 Sep 11 - 04:39 PM (#3217246) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: gnu They will mature. Kinda. |
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02 Sep 11 - 04:46 PM (#3217250) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: GUEST,josepp Well, damn, I must be Captain America. |
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02 Sep 11 - 04:51 PM (#3217253) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: Will Fly Just seen Devendra Banhart, sitting cross-legged in a cape & hood, surrounded by candles, strumming away. Yawn. Decent music - but... Thank the Lord for a brief clip of Neil Young singing "Old Man" from 1972 - no bullshit there. Aaargh - James Blunt! OH NO! |
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02 Sep 11 - 05:03 PM (#3217256) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clich�s... From: Jack Campin It's a pity there was nobody around to shout "Judas!" and forcibly plug them back into the mains when people first tried playing that stuff unamplified. Might have spared us decades of dullness. |
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02 Sep 11 - 06:48 PM (#3217312) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: Richard Bridge I'm looking forward to running the rig in my local pub tomorrow night - first half will be some youngsters doing metal music on plugged acoustic guitars (actually my guitars, their acoustics have no pickups in - and as loud and heavy as I can get the sound! |
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02 Sep 11 - 06:55 PM (#3217320) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: Dave MacKenzie So now I know - James Blunt is a woman in a wet t-shirt with 5 o'clock shadow! |
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02 Sep 11 - 07:11 PM (#3217328) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' the title put me off watching... might just as well spend an hour celebrating "When Erections Go Limp" or "When Beer Goes Flat".... |
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02 Sep 11 - 07:21 PM (#3217334) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: Brian May Oh bugger, I quite enjoyed it. Perhaps I'm a transvestite after all. I thought a handbag that matched your acoustic was chic . . . Go on relax all you heroes! Have fun |
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02 Sep 11 - 07:25 PM (#3217338) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: Richard Bridge Dunno. I'm thinking about a folkie-ised version of ArchEnemy's "Revolution Begins". I already do "Substitute" "Play with Fire" "You Better Move On" "Tell Me" and "Shooting Star" - Oh and "Summertime Blues" and "Something Else". And people call me a traddie purist. If it's a good song it can be translated. Many rock songs however are arrangements masquerading as songs. |
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02 Sep 11 - 10:07 PM (#3217387) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: Leadfingers Who is Johnny Marr ? Maybe I should get a Television then I might not spend so much time listening to Radio 4 and On Line ! |
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02 Sep 11 - 10:15 PM (#3217389) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: GUEST,HenryB. For goodness sake stop bleating on about how great and wonderful all folkies are...and for anyone who doesn't know, Johnny Marr was the guitarist with the Smiths and used to go to Harry Boardmans club at the Unicotn in Manchester. |
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03 Sep 11 - 04:21 AM (#3217463) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: Dave Hanson Acurates egg of a programme, and why did James Blount change his name to Blunt ? Dave H |
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03 Sep 11 - 04:57 AM (#3217471) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: Richard Bridge That's a matter of record. He wanted his name to sound less posh when he recorded pop songs for the proles. |
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03 Sep 11 - 05:04 AM (#3217473) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: GUEST,Phil B Johnny Marr is one of lifes better guitarists and well worth checking out. He creates very sophisticated and unique harmonic acompaniments and rarely does the 'guitar solo' thang. Not a great overall 'Smiths' fan but have been appreciating his contribution for years. |
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03 Sep 11 - 05:05 AM (#3217474) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: GUEST,Phil B Did enjoy the Joni and the Neil Young clips. |
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03 Sep 11 - 05:16 AM (#3217478) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: scouse I watched it and got bored half way through but managed to stick with it did enjoy the Joni and the Neil Young bits as mentioned and you would of though that someone would have mentioned John Martyn and what about that idiot poncin' around from the Smiths where's the Acoustic in that.... one guy strummin' away!!! Gimmi a break. As Aye, Phil |
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03 Sep 11 - 05:17 AM (#3217479) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: MikeL2 hi Will I watched it and like you it left me wondering what it was all about. I don't know if this was supposed to be the best of acoustic guitar playing that emanated from the rock scene but the performances were sadly lacking in excitement and entertainment. Ok there were a couple of excellent technical peformances ( Roger McGinn and Pete Townshend ) but the rest of the show for me me was lack-lustre and patronising. As for James Blunt, the thought of him flouncing into Croatia on a tank playing his guitar paints a strange picture of British forces' impact as a fighting force !!! Cheers Mike |
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03 Sep 11 - 06:14 AM (#3217497) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: Edthefolkie Vapid as charged. While watching it I thought it was somehow financed by MTV. However it turned out to be BBC Wales, script & voiceover by all purpose bloody expert Stuart Maconie, also Mark Radcliffe of Mark'n'Lard. Maconie used to pop up ceaselessly on C4 "100 greatest Somebody namechecked Richard Thompson but no footage. Ah yes - he has a white beard, is bald, and over 40 (note sneering sweater/beard/tankard etc references at start of programme). Amazed Bert Jansch was allowed on but then he's officially cool innit. |
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03 Sep 11 - 06:49 AM (#3217505) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: Hamish Well I remember seeing Led Zep in Dundee, about 1971. Wow! An acousric set. Radical. Page was a decent acoustic guitarist and had learnt a few tricks from Davie Graham. It knocked me and my mates out at the time. |
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03 Sep 11 - 06:47 PM (#3217761) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: GUEST,Henryb Oh yeah..someone called scouse would automatically knock a Manc..very grown up..very adult! |
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03 Sep 11 - 07:07 PM (#3217770) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: Acorn4 I really enjoyed it - I've liked Albert Lee's approach and a pity he didn't get to play a bit mo re - loved things like the clip of Jimmy Page in a skiffle band. The dotting about between the various eras was more effective than just a chronological treatment. A pleasant hour of nostalgia. |
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04 Sep 11 - 11:54 AM (#3218045) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: Stringsinger Rock music is a genre that is manufactured by the music industry and has been taken up by the public as some kind of identifiable product that grew organically like folk music. I don't buy it. Most of it, (not all) is loud and obnoxious and doesn't translate well into an acoustic setting, (the Beatles notwithstanding). The singing is mostly shouting and straining. (Oddly, I think that Elvis could sing well, a nice baritone.) The reason that it's not working as a series is rock and acoustic is an oxymoron. Rock is meant to be loud and ear shattering. Some of it can persuade people to dance but this element has alway been a given in African-American blues and dance music and not necessarily in rock which by in large doesn't swing. |
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04 Sep 11 - 01:32 PM (#3218089) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: Dave MacKenzie I like 'Starman' but I'm not sure about Bowie with a blue acoustic guitar which spent most of the number hanging on his back is all that relevant. |
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04 Sep 11 - 03:56 PM (#3218170) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: GUEST,HenryB I'll say it again...it's this blasted superior, better than thou, attitude of folkies which makes the whole genre seem precious, twee and a wee bit silly. |
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04 Sep 11 - 05:03 PM (#3218199) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: GUEST,999 When trad goes electric, then ya got something :-) |
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04 Sep 11 - 05:28 PM (#3218208) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: Will Fly it's this blasted superior, better than thou, attitude of folkies which makes the whole genre seem precious, twee and a wee bit silly. No it isn't. I'm not a folkie. I just like my music unpretentious and straightforward, and I don't care whether it's folk, jazz, blues, rock'n roll, ragtime or funk - all of which, by the way, I've played in my time and still play. What doesn't turn me on is a series of talking heads talking platitudes about the place of the acoustic guitar in rock music. Thank the lord for Pete Townsend though, and his down-to-earth boogie-ing on the guitar (acoustic or electric - doesn't matter). One performance from him says more than a dozen talking heads. |
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05 Sep 11 - 08:57 AM (#3218455) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: foggers Aye we watched it and I thought it was a piece of over-inflated nothing. And the best line I ever heard about James Blunt was from the wonderful wit of Mitch Benn, who introduced his parody of JB's top hit with the observation that James Blunt is the only person alive who name serves as his own cockney rhyming slang... |
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05 Sep 11 - 11:38 AM (#3218512) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: Richard Bridge Berkely Hunt got there first, but is dead now. |
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05 Sep 11 - 07:06 PM (#3218721) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: foggers Indeed Richard! |
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06 Sep 11 - 03:26 PM (#3219144) Subject: RE: 'When Rock Goes Acoustic' - clichés... From: fat B****rd Which is why 'berk' is an insult in the UK |