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08 Sep 11 - 01:26 PM (#3220135) Subject: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: kendall I found this photo inside an ancient Victrola that Sinsull gave me. He looks very familiar but I can't place him. HELP. |
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08 Sep 11 - 01:27 PM (#3220137) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: bobad Is it the invisible man? |
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08 Sep 11 - 01:28 PM (#3220138) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: jacqui.c Photo Here |
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08 Sep 11 - 02:08 PM (#3220156) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Rapparee Kendall Morse in his younger years? You're right -- he does look familiar, but I can't place him at the moment. |
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08 Sep 11 - 02:23 PM (#3220160) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: artbrooks Resembles Robert E. Lee |
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08 Sep 11 - 02:48 PM (#3220171) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Ed T I don't recognize him, but if he came over to repossess my swamp buggy, I would be mighty afeared:) |
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08 Sep 11 - 02:54 PM (#3220177) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Amos I suspect it is a senator, from the stance! :D A |
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08 Sep 11 - 02:57 PM (#3220182) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Rapparee Well, we can eliminate Burl Ives, Pete Seeger, Enrico Caruso, "Lewd" van Beethoven, Johnny Bach, and Wolfy Mozart. He also doesn't look like Amos, but there is some slight resemblance to Bobert. |
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08 Sep 11 - 03:00 PM (#3220183) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: IvanB Alexander Graham Bell |
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08 Sep 11 - 03:12 PM (#3220188) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: GUEST,999 As Ivan B said, it sure looks like him |
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08 Sep 11 - 03:24 PM (#3220196) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Ed T A close resemblance to Bell in this photo Bell |
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08 Sep 11 - 03:28 PM (#3220198) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Stilly River Sage Looks like Robert E. Lee. SRS |
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08 Sep 11 - 04:11 PM (#3220235) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Gurney Ho looks like my pal Jack Robinson, so he's probably Geordie. Descended, anyway. |
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08 Sep 11 - 04:15 PM (#3220239) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: ClaireBear I'd definitely go for Lee over Bell. They eyebrows are dark on both; Bell's were white. Also the shape of the hair and beard are the same. |
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08 Sep 11 - 04:44 PM (#3220258) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Joe Offer Alexander Graham Bell was the first thought that came to my mind, too. Either him, or maybe Kendall - with hair... -Joe, without hair- |
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08 Sep 11 - 04:44 PM (#3220259) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Ed T Looks like Lee and Bell. Something fishy here? |
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08 Sep 11 - 05:23 PM (#3220285) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Ed T Robert E Lee was related to Helen Keller-She was a close friend of Alexander Graham Bell. Helen Keller was a socialist-Graham Bell was a Canadian (though born in Scotland). Keller dedicated her autobiography to Bell, where she said: 'You have always shown a father's joy in my success and a father's tenderness when things have not gone right.' Need I say more? |
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08 Sep 11 - 05:36 PM (#3220291) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Looks sorta like Bobert! GfS |
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08 Sep 11 - 05:40 PM (#3220294) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity jacqui.c, Your crocheting is certainly beautiful!!! You are indeed talented there!!! GfS |
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08 Sep 11 - 05:40 PM (#3220295) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Lox Can anyone date the clothing or any other bits and bobs in the photo? |
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08 Sep 11 - 05:55 PM (#3220306) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: olddude absolutely you have a great photo I believe of Walt Whitman the great poet. Go to his galley of images on the web. Dead ringer. Probably valuable also |
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08 Sep 11 - 05:58 PM (#3220311) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: olddude By the way here is an early Archive photo of Walt Walt |
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08 Sep 11 - 06:09 PM (#3220313) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Desert Dancer Way too dressed up and trimmed up for Walt. |
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08 Sep 11 - 06:15 PM (#3220317) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: SINSULL I always assumed it was a family photo that was left inside. |
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08 Sep 11 - 06:17 PM (#3220319) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Amos It is probably one of these guys for sure. A |
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08 Sep 11 - 06:20 PM (#3220322) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: SINSULL Any marks identifying the photographer, Captain? |
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08 Sep 11 - 06:25 PM (#3220326) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: gnu That's my great uncle "Peg Leg" Henry Pascalin a police photo taken after he kicked in the liquor store window in Chipman, New Brunswick, Canada back in tha 30s. I can tell by the mole that looks like a maple leaf. |
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08 Sep 11 - 06:30 PM (#3220329) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Desert Dancer Bell's whiskers are a different shape. He also is not quite so beautifully dressed. (It's easier to see the trends if you look at one of 'em at a time, Amos.) Someone in the newspaper trade? (in these portraits, often the props are intentional: he's leaning on a writing desk, with newspaper in hand...) ~ Becky in Long Beach |
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08 Sep 11 - 06:36 PM (#3220332) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Stilly River Sage Look at his hair - he has a cowlick or a natural curl on his right (left side in photo). It's in the photos of Lee and it's apparent in this photo. He doesn't look like Whitman or Bell - look at the shapes of their heads. Lee wore his beard the same way most the time - there are too many points of similarity (to take the term from fingerprinting) between Lee and the photo for it to be any of the other suggestions. Kendall's Photo and Robert E. Lee (enlarge that one and compare the brows, the nose, the beard and hair). Kendall's photo has whiter hair, so I'd guess that is later. Lee died in 1870. SRS |
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08 Sep 11 - 06:37 PM (#3220333) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Rapparee I think that's a computer keyboard in the background. Probably Babbage or Hollerith. |
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08 Sep 11 - 06:39 PM (#3220334) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Lox Sorry guys, but it is not any of the possibles suggested so far. Kendall - you're gonna have to trace the ownership of the victrola you found it in. |
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08 Sep 11 - 06:54 PM (#3220340) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Desert Dancer Nope, I don't buy Lee, either. Check the trim of the mustache which gives a different feel to the mouth. Also, Lee did a side part, and though it's debatable, it looks more like a comb back on your mysterious gentleman. The clothes are not his style, again. Also, if it was Lee I would think another copy would show up online. ~ B in LB |
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08 Sep 11 - 06:57 PM (#3220346) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Macaulay Culkin, after years of hard partying! GfS |
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08 Sep 11 - 07:26 PM (#3220355) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Q (Frank Staplin) Composer, maybe. Have to look through some of the biog. books. |
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08 Sep 11 - 07:39 PM (#3220361) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Ed T Here are some more clues (since there is no reason to believe he is famous), what he may look like in other profiles. preparing for bed At the gym |
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08 Sep 11 - 07:44 PM (#3220363) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: olddude Whitman I am still stuck on Whitman walt again |
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08 Sep 11 - 07:49 PM (#3220368) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: GUEST,The Length The guy who sleeps outside Walmart in Greensboro NC. |
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08 Sep 11 - 08:02 PM (#3220370) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: olddude Will Fly .... that's it ... you sly dog Will making and old picture and hiding it in Kendall's machine. By the way Captain, ain't it about time ya upgraded your music box ... I mean it may have been state of the art back in the day, but there is better sound producing equipment today there is yah |
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08 Sep 11 - 08:21 PM (#3220377) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: olddude Ok, so I save it asked my wife do you know this guy ... her immediately reply was, "Hey where did you get the great photo of Robert E. Lee" It was when he was the "chancellor or something of Virginia Univ 1890's" whatever she rattled on with. She is a civil war expert .. teaches it .. writes and publishes it ... I have to go with my wife, she is too darn good with this stuff. Go to the National Archives smithsonian and email a copy to them, they will tell you for sure. Then you can make big bucks on it |
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08 Sep 11 - 08:23 PM (#3220378) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Bee-dubya-ell I think the sense of recognition may be due to a close resemblance to a current film/TV actor whose name escapes me. Not someone really well-known, but one of those guys who shows up in lots of films in lesser roles. |
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08 Sep 11 - 08:31 PM (#3220382) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: kendall He lived from 1820 to 1895. It's none of the ones suggested. Possibly a composer? |
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08 Sep 11 - 08:47 PM (#3220385) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: michaelr I axed Virgil Cain and he axed his wife ("there goes Robert E. Lee!") It's him fer sure. |
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08 Sep 11 - 09:07 PM (#3220389) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Rapparee I think he's the in this movie. |
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08 Sep 11 - 09:23 PM (#3220396) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Bobert Lets get real here, folks... There was a time when people wanted these photos taken of themselves looking like they were kings or generals or barons or... Back before my "Betty Ford" days I was a scavenger... I found (and still have) lots of pics like this... I mean, ordinary folks lookin' like kings or generals or barons... This photo is way after Lee... I'd date it closer to 1900 based on the clothes... No matter... I doubt if anyone here is going to identify it... B~ |
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08 Sep 11 - 09:26 PM (#3220398) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Ed T It could be Walt Whitman, not that there is anything wrong with that. |
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08 Sep 11 - 10:02 PM (#3220404) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: olddude Bobster in his sunday going to meetin cloths |
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08 Sep 11 - 10:10 PM (#3220407) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Bobert Listen, ya'll... It ain't me... B~ |
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08 Sep 11 - 10:40 PM (#3220415) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Rapparee I even put up a movie of who it is! Geez, don't you folks know Father Christmas when you see him? |
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08 Sep 11 - 11:00 PM (#3220421) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Bobert: "This photo is way after Lee... I'd date it closer to 1900 based on the clothes..." But, he isn't going to tell you where he bought them! (wink!) GfS |
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08 Sep 11 - 11:17 PM (#3220430) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Stilly River Sage I picked up the date (1870) at Wikipedia, my bad. Should have double checked. But I still think it's Lee. Here's a portrait and another portrait. Kendall, you may have a very important personal portrait of Lee there, so treat that photo with care. Has it dawned on anyone to turn it over and see what it says on the back? SRS |
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09 Sep 11 - 12:04 AM (#3220443) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp It looks to me a lot like the missionary guy who was convertin' the heathen on the West coast of Central Africa back when I had just had took up work with the White traders in the early 20s. Reverend Creach was his name, Josiah Creach, and he was an okay guy as far as I could see. He was with the Presbyterian Church. He said we were all God's children and he never showed no prejudice against apes at all in that respect, so I gotta say he had my respect. Last I heard, though, he went into the interior of the country, got captured by some hostile Natives, and was cooked and et by them. Damn shame. The same thing has happened to more than a few of my own relatives over the years. It's a jungle out there. - Chongo |
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09 Sep 11 - 12:29 AM (#3220448) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: GUEST,Josepp Thought it might have been Elisha Gray but I guess not. Gray is the true inventor of the telephone and the founder of Western Electric which was originally called Gray & Barton Co. He also built the first true synthesizer in the 1870s and used it to invent "streaming." http://history.graybar.com/images/1844-1925/1901_2.jpg |
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09 Sep 11 - 12:49 AM (#3220456) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: GUEST If the photo was found in a gramophone then it is likely to be of a composer, musician, conductor, singer, bandleader or some such. It is definitely not Robert E. Lee or Walt Whitman. |
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09 Sep 11 - 01:14 AM (#3220460) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Jim Dixon A friend of mine who knows quite a lot about historical clothing (she sews costumes for re-enactors, historical site guides, etc.) says "between 1905-1912, most likely. The watch chain is a little older." |
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09 Sep 11 - 04:19 AM (#3220493) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: MGM·Lion Further to Guest of 12.49 a.m: that looks more like music manuscript in left hand than any other sort of reading matter, doesn't it? ~M~ |
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09 Sep 11 - 04:33 AM (#3220495) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Will Fly OK Dan - I confess. I posted the photo of myself to Jacqui and got her to hide it in the victrola - just to confuse the old devil (Kendall, that it). I can see it worked only too well... |
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09 Sep 11 - 08:37 AM (#3220566) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: GUEST,kendall All are wrong so far. Of course I checked the back! He was born in 1820 and died in 1895. I too believe he is a composer and I know I've seen that face before. It's driving me SANE! |
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09 Sep 11 - 08:48 AM (#3220571) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: SINSULL Ask a silly question... The photo was in the victrola when I purchased it at a yard sale on Long Island. I assumed it was of the man who originally owned the victrola. It is not Robert E Lee or Walt Whitman and it is definitelt not Kendall. Maybe Bob Dylan???? |
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09 Sep 11 - 08:56 AM (#3220574) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: kendall I will know the name when I hear it. |
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09 Sep 11 - 09:15 AM (#3220587) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Rapparee George Frederick Root? |
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09 Sep 11 - 09:23 AM (#3220592) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Rapparee Nicholas de Giers (Nikolay Karlovich Girs)? |
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09 Sep 11 - 09:27 AM (#3220597) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Rapparee John Henry Brown? Augustus Morris? John Sharpe? Frederich Engels? |
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09 Sep 11 - 10:23 AM (#3220622) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: olddude Mozart, yah that's it |
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09 Sep 11 - 10:27 AM (#3220626) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: McGrath of Harlow Any pub in a folk festival would be liable to have a bunch of possibles... |
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09 Sep 11 - 11:32 AM (#3220658) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: VirginiaTam Not Walt compare the eyelids (space between brow and eye) is much bigger on Walt. I would say not Bell as wrong period of clothes given age of man in Kendall's photo. Besides Bell's forehead much longer and hair curlier / frizzier. Man in Kendall's photo is dressed in Victorian gentleman clothing as shirt collar, silk waistcoat (see pattern) and pocket watch chain indicate. Took me some time to source that coat but I found this which might explain it Victorian frock coat? The way the front of subject's coat is not bunching up as he sits, I suspect it is short in front. Men of a certain class tended to dress in weekday (business) best for photos. And if they deigned to have photo taken then they could afford to be dressed in the fashion of the day and usually did. Just my take. |
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09 Sep 11 - 11:34 AM (#3220659) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: MGM·Lion That was a morning coat, not a frock coat, which was even-tailed all round like an indoor overcoat, not cutaway at waist but tailed like that in the picture. ~M~ |
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09 Sep 11 - 11:50 AM (#3220668) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Max Hmmm. Ran it through some hi-tech reverse photo searches with no results. I isolated the picture from kendall's shot, if that helps anyone or anything. (got laid off yesterday and apparently have too much free time)
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09 Sep 11 - 12:19 PM (#3220683) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: VirginiaTam Perhaps it is a morning coat. I don't know how that style coat drapes when one is seated. It does not appear to me to have the "university" or angled sloped front as above link shows. Though as the article on link above states there was some mixing of Frock and Morning coat styles going on by the 1850s. Fascinating speculations this thread. I love studying costume. |
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09 Sep 11 - 12:37 PM (#3220689) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: open mike Sorry to hear that you were laid off, Max. Too bad the newspaper is not visible in the foto... we might be able to find some info on time or place... |
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09 Sep 11 - 01:39 PM (#3220723) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: kendall I'm so sorry, Max. I hope you find another real soon. Folks, keep it in mind that he lived from 1820 to 1895. That eliminates all of the suggestions so far. |
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09 Sep 11 - 01:54 PM (#3220727) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: The Sandman john henry brown |
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09 Sep 11 - 01:56 PM (#3220728) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Rapparee Nope. My recent suggestions, including Root and Engels, lived and died in that time frame. |
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09 Sep 11 - 02:07 PM (#3220733) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Jim Dixon Kendall: You don't read carefully, do you? George Frederick Root Nicholas de Giers John Henry Brown Frederich Engels all lived from 1820 to 1895. I haven't identified Augustus Morris and John Sharpe, but I imagine Rapparee has determined that they lived from 1820 to 1895, and that's why he suggested them. However, Wikipedia has pictures of the first 4, and I think they can all be eliminated based on their looks. See if you agree. |
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09 Sep 11 - 02:08 PM (#3220734) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Jim Dixon I guess I cross-posted with Rapparee. |
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09 Sep 11 - 02:15 PM (#3220739) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: VirginiaTam Why does he have to be celebrity? I would at first discovery think it to be a photo of family member of or actual owner of the victrola. Talking about the clothes is way more interesting. |
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09 Sep 11 - 02:22 PM (#3220742) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Rapparee TAKING away the clothes might be even more interesting. He might have a tattoo or something. |
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09 Sep 11 - 03:03 PM (#3220771) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: The Sandman lokat john henry browns eyes they are the same as yer wan |
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09 Sep 11 - 03:17 PM (#3220781) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: pdq John Henry Brown has larger ears, a balder head and a high bridge nose. Their expression is similar but he is not the Mystery Man. |
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09 Sep 11 - 03:59 PM (#3220810) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: GUEST,The Length Hey, you will never know who this guy is, it is just a standard studio cabinet portrait, hundreds, if not thousands of these appear on ebay each year, all of them will remain anonymous. Maybe this guy owned the Victrola, big deal. Maybe the Victrola was sold at an estate sale and some kid stuck the picture down the side of it. All this, he looks like Jack or maybe Chuck, truth is, he could look like anyone you want him to, even your old granddaddy. The guy maybe owned a liquor store or was a doctor, who knows. Bury him again in the Victrola and let him rest in peace. |
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09 Sep 11 - 04:30 PM (#3220820) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: olddude Ahab ... right before the whale nailed him ... |
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09 Sep 11 - 04:51 PM (#3220830) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: kendall Jim Dixon, it doesn't matter how well I read, I say again, I know this face and I will know his name when I hear it. |
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09 Sep 11 - 05:00 PM (#3220834) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Barbara Shaw Here's a page full of composers who lived from 1820-1895. The nose looks like E.T. Paull, but several others on the page are also possibilities. My first thought on seeing the photo was Mark Twain, but the nose is wrong. (It's usually a clear indicator of identity, and only gets "moreso" with age...) |
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09 Sep 11 - 06:14 PM (#3220863) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Rapparee I'm pretty sure it's Elvis. |
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09 Sep 11 - 06:17 PM (#3220867) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Helen Kendall, I immediately thought he was a composer, too. I had a bit of a Google on the image search for composers' portraits but no-one stood out. I feel I will know the name when he finally is identified. Helen |
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09 Sep 11 - 06:26 PM (#3220873) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Helen Try Googling images of: "composers of the 19th Century" etc What about Giuseppe Verdi? Helen |
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09 Sep 11 - 06:39 PM (#3220879) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: freda underhill George Clooney's grandpa.. |
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09 Sep 11 - 07:05 PM (#3220888) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: SINSULL Captain, One bit of strange advice: keep the photo in the Victrola. He is happy there. SINS PS Ask Jacqui. She may be able to explain. M |
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10 Sep 11 - 07:04 AM (#3221054) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Janie A previous incarnation of Wild Bill Wichrowski? |
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10 Sep 11 - 11:50 AM (#3221157) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Rapparee Frank Zappa!! |
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10 Sep 11 - 11:59 AM (#3221163) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: SINSULL Arturo Toscanini? |
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10 Sep 11 - 01:05 PM (#3221191) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: kendall Not even close, Sinsull. The dates don't match, and he looks nothing like the photo. |
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10 Sep 11 - 02:36 PM (#3221241) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Q (Frank Staplin) It is Guiseppe Verdi. Someone posted correctly above, give him/her the Golden Mudcat. Compare with photo here: Study Also a photo at Wikipedia. |
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10 Sep 11 - 02:40 PM (#3221244) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Q (Frank Staplin) Sorry. Squidoo Composer study |
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10 Sep 11 - 05:16 PM (#3221293) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Helen Ooh, the Golden Mudcat! I am so honoured. I'd like to thank Max and all Mudcatters for making this award possible, blah, blah, blah. :-D Some of the pix of Verdi don't look like the mystery photo, but some do. The nose is similar, but I'm still in two minds about whether the face shape is right. photos of Verdi Helen |
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10 Sep 11 - 06:27 PM (#3221327) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Rapparee Kendall -- it's not autographed by any chance, is it? |
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10 Sep 11 - 06:40 PM (#3221337) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Helen On the link I posted to a collection of Verdi's photos, compare the 8th photo, i.e. second from left on second row from the top, to our mystery man. It's close, when you add a bit of extra flesh on the cheekbones, and make the beard white instead of black. I think I'd put my money on it being Verdi. If that photo was common it would have been on the 'net, so maybe if it is validated, it might be a collector's item. Helen |
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10 Sep 11 - 07:26 PM (#3221348) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: kendall You guys would make poor cops or eye witnesses. It is not Verdi. Keep in mind that this man lived from 1820 to 1895. No way could he have composed before or after those dates. Of course it's not autographed! Only the dates of his birth and death. |
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10 Sep 11 - 10:19 PM (#3221384) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Rapparee Well, that would have made it a lot easier. Of course, the dates could also the incorrect or a note regarding someone else. But I do think I've seen that feller somewhere. As much as I'd like it to be a musician of some stripe, I still wonder if it might not be a late photo of F. Engels. |
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10 Sep 11 - 10:38 PM (#3221395) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Barbara Shaw Looks a bit like Raymond Burr, maybe an ancestor of his. Also looks a lot like a musician I know named Jack Jolie, who lives in Maine and maybe Kendall thinks the photo looks familiar because he's run into Jack somewhere around Portland. |
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10 Sep 11 - 10:40 PM (#3221397) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity 100..Can you believe it? GfS |
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10 Sep 11 - 10:43 PM (#3221398) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: wysiwyg It's Dick Greenhaus. A LOT of folks do not realize how long he has been on the planet! ~S~ |
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11 Sep 11 - 12:37 AM (#3221426) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Helen Kendall, Did you tell us before that his birth & death dates were on the back of the photo? Or were you waiting for one of us to be smart enough to ask what was on the back of the photo? Proof: I'm not that smart! :-D Try George F. Root, then. Helen |
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11 Sep 11 - 11:16 AM (#3221554) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: kendall I did; to both. |
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11 Sep 11 - 01:18 PM (#3221600) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Q (Frank Staplin) Friedrich Engels was born 1820, died 1895. One of those Marxist people. Have the investigators been asking about you? Should we keep you at arms length? Johnny Walker was born 1820, but still going strong! Q- is the date of back printed or in manuscript? If not printed, could have been added incorrectly at some time. |
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11 Sep 11 - 03:13 PM (#3221656) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: kendall Hand written. |
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11 Sep 11 - 03:17 PM (#3221658) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: kendall It's not Engels. I'm wondering if it could be a famous author? Mary, he will continue to live in the Victrola. |
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12 Sep 11 - 06:06 AM (#3221825) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Allan C. I think there may be some reason the picture was included with the Victrola. Since there are few clues on the picture, I'm wondering if there are any on the Victrola, itself. Or, perhaps it is simply the Victrola that is the clue. On the other hand, as I flipped through hundreds of such pictures in an antique store, a friend quipped, "Oh, look! Instant relatives! You could claim any of these and who would know?" |
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12 Sep 11 - 06:58 AM (#3221845) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: kendall He may well be the original owner, but what bugs me is he is so familiar. |
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12 Sep 11 - 08:40 AM (#3221888) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: SINSULL It's Captain Ahab out of uniform. |
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12 Sep 11 - 10:02 AM (#3221919) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Lox So where did you get the box? Where are you based (town, city) Type those things in with the date and see what comes up. |
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12 Sep 11 - 10:18 AM (#3221929) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Rapparee I think it's Kendall during his hippy youth. |
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12 Sep 11 - 11:49 AM (#3221983) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: topical tom It's obviously George Frederic Root ( or an older Uncle Dave Macon?). |
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12 Sep 11 - 12:01 PM (#3221986) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: kendall Not obvious to me. The dates don't quite match and the photos are not near the same. I got the box from Sinsull, she knows the history of it. |
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12 Sep 11 - 12:22 PM (#3222009) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: TheSnail kendall He may well be the original owner, Not if he died in 1895. The Victor Talking Machine Company was founded in 1901 and the first Victrola marketed in 1906. Read all about it - http://www.victor-victrola.com/index.html |
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12 Sep 11 - 01:06 PM (#3222032) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: GUEST,.gargoyle LONGFELLOW
Henry W. Longfellow http://nzr.mvnu.edu/faculty/trearick/english/rearick/readings/authors/specific/longfellow_lrg.jpg
Sincerely, |
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12 Sep 11 - 01:34 PM (#3222044) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: kendall There is a slight resemblance but the dates dont jibe |
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12 Sep 11 - 03:04 PM (#3222098) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Q (Frank Staplin) If the dates are hand-written, forget them. |
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12 Sep 11 - 08:07 PM (#3222232) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Rapparee It's my great-great-great uncle Wilhelm. We called him Willie because it annoyed him. That's his toilet paper he's holding: the picture was taken when he had a bad case of the Portland Quick-Step. |
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13 Sep 11 - 10:01 AM (#3222502) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: GUEST,TIA I did a digital overlay of the mystery man and several of the Verdi's. Much better match than similar test with Longfellow (but only one photo, so not statistically significant). But all that may means is that mystery man looks a bit like Verdi. The chances are vanishingly small that it is an actual famous person. A search on ebay for "antique photographs" yields 354 pages of results. Many of these have the description NUDE FRENCH BIG BUTT, but many seem to be similar style and vintage. Still a great find and a fun mystery. |
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13 Sep 11 - 12:07 PM (#3222569) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: SINSULL Oh TIA. I wish you hadn't mentioned the big butt. Now they'll be hounding you for a link and that will trigger... |
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13 Sep 11 - 12:59 PM (#3222612) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Q (Frank Staplin) Don't need a link. Most of us know how to search Ebay for fun things..... |
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14 Sep 11 - 07:58 AM (#3223006) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: GUEST,Kendall Sinsull could be right, first owner of the machine, but he looks so familiar! |
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14 Sep 11 - 11:22 AM (#3223093) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: pdq Giuseppe Verdi was agreat composer but he had a beak like a buzzard. The Mystery Man ain't him. Longfellow, as suggested by Gargoyle, is really a close match. |
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14 Sep 11 - 04:43 PM (#3223276) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: kendall Close, but no cigar. |
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14 Sep 11 - 05:13 PM (#3223296) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Rapparee I think the guy was Kendall's best friend when Kendall was growing up. |
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14 Sep 11 - 05:35 PM (#3223304) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Seamus Kennedy Iris actor Noel Purcell. |
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14 Sep 11 - 10:34 PM (#3223384) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Rapparee Noel Purcell has acted the part of an iris? Now THAT'S good acting! |
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14 Sep 11 - 10:43 PM (#3223388) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: pdq Iris is in the eye of the beholder. |
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14 Sep 11 - 11:44 PM (#3223408) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: TIA He does look damn familiar. But don't we all? |
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15 Sep 11 - 07:19 AM (#3223506) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: Lox "the Portland Quick-Step" Funny!! |
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15 Sep 11 - 08:49 AM (#3223541) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: kendall Iris you would stick to the subject. |
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15 Sep 11 - 07:15 PM (#3223834) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: gnu Fascinating, really. Intriguing. Excellent thread, albeit, unintended as such. |
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16 Sep 11 - 04:27 PM (#3224388) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: kendall I guess it's time to let it die. |
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16 Sep 11 - 05:18 PM (#3224410) Subject: RE: BS: Can anyone ID this man? From: frogprince Look, let's get real here; we know what the law says, but this guy is obviously well over 21. Stop worrying about IDing him, let him buy the bottle. |
