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Harmony Sovereign (china) How Old?

25 Sep 11 - 12:05 PM (#3228744)
Subject: Harmony Sovereign (china) How Old?
From: Melissa

I bought a made-in-china Sovereign a couple days ago and can't seem to find anything online to give me a vague idea of when it was made. I'd like to have some idea of when this model (01016) was made and I would also like to know whether Harmony/China is a Harmony or a knock-off.

Do you know a site for me to check?

Thanks,
M


25 Sep 11 - 07:15 PM (#3228915)
Subject: RE: Harmony Sovereign (china) How Old?
From: Melissa


25 Sep 11 - 07:24 PM (#3228919)
Subject: RE: Harmony Sovereign (china) How Old?
From: GUEST,999

Try a google of the following:

Harmony guitars database


25 Sep 11 - 07:30 PM (#3228922)
Subject: RE: Harmony Sovereign (china) How Old?
From: Melissa

thanks, 999

The model I have doesn't show up on any of the Harmony sites I could find..including Harmony Guitars Database. That's what has me mostly convinced that I may have a knock-off (which I can't find info on either)

It's a surprisingly nice guitar to play..and horrid to look at.


25 Sep 11 - 07:31 PM (#3228924)
Subject: RE: Harmony Sovereign (china) How Old?
From: GUEST,999

I'll dig around, Melissa.


25 Sep 11 - 07:36 PM (#3228927)
Subject: RE: Harmony Sovereign (china) How Old?
From: Melissa

I'd sure appreciate that..
Thank you



here's one on ebay
(auction ended, pic probably won't be there long)


25 Sep 11 - 07:39 PM (#3228930)
Subject: RE: Harmony Sovereign (china) How Old?
From: Melissa

I found this on Harmony Database:

1016 (2000 (approx)) - Buck Owens reissue - Acoustic flatop - Red, white, blue - 10
Reissue in years 2000 of the "Buck Owens" model sold by Sears & Roebucjk catalog in 1970 (See model 3219 under the Silvertone brand). Apart from the color scheme, this reissue is very different, and doesn't wear the Buck Owens name on the head, where you can read "Harmony Sovereign", without the usual "est 1892" specific to asian made guitar. This was proposed by the "MBT International" company. - (based on Harmony 3219)

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Does it mean that mine was made in the 2000s since it doesn't have "Buck Owens" on the head?
It sure doesn't smell like it's that new..


25 Sep 11 - 07:45 PM (#3228937)
Subject: RE: Harmony Sovereign (china) How Old?
From: GUEST,999

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/4/6/3/0/9/2/webimg/484102331_tp.jpg


25 Sep 11 - 07:47 PM (#3228938)
Subject: RE: Harmony Sovereign (china) How Old?
From: GUEST,999

I have a guitar that smells like dirty socks when I take it out of the case. That's because I keep it humidified in the case. Often, the nose knows, but not always.


25 Sep 11 - 07:48 PM (#3228939)
Subject: RE: Harmony Sovereign (china) How Old?
From: GUEST,999

PS The guitar is not yet five years old.


25 Sep 11 - 07:54 PM (#3228945)
Subject: RE: Harmony Sovereign (china) How Old?
From: Melissa

yup, that matches my label!

My mother has a new Martin that smells like a poorly tended porcupine hide..bleh. Maybe I'll get her a dirtysock humidifier for christmas for a nice change.

Why in the world would anybody do a recent reissue Buck Owens?
..and why is it such a decent guitar??


19 Sep 14 - 05:38 PM (#3661998)
Subject: RE: Harmony Sovereign (china) How Old?
From: GUEST

Harmony Soveriegns were nice guitars. In England,in the early 60's they were the cheapest "good" guitars you could get - ie full-size, all solid wood, US-made. They retailed in England at 35 "guineas" (about $100 then) when they were about $60 in the US Sears catalogue. I've got a batterd old one than I bought a couple of years ago for £450 (about $720 now)- best guitar I've got...


20 Sep 14 - 04:18 PM (#3662256)
Subject: RE: Harmony Sovereign (china) How Old?
From: GUEST,Guest BS

I bought one in UK in 1962 for £47. It was the best in the shop. I've still got it and it has improved with age.


20 Sep 14 - 05:36 PM (#3662268)
Subject: RE: Harmony Sovereign (china) How Old?
From: Mooh

There's a lot of difference between guitars from different decades and different countries of origin, but still badged with the name Sovereign. Many of them are as different as any two other guitars could be.