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21 Oct 11 - 01:05 PM (#3242574) Subject: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: olddude President Obama just on the news ... all troops all military US forces will be out of Iraq by December .. 39,000 home ... US involvement ends. That is very good news ... Security for their own country is turned over to Iraq |
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21 Oct 11 - 01:15 PM (#3242587) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp Damn right it's good news. What happens to all the American military bases in Iraq? - Chongo |
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21 Oct 11 - 01:17 PM (#3242588) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: michaelr How many "advisors" will remain in country? |
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21 Oct 11 - 01:45 PM (#3242603) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: BTNG memo to President Obama: whatever........ |
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21 Oct 11 - 02:12 PM (#3242616) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: pdq Pure politics. Obama needs to shore up his political base and the anti-military types are not happy with him. Reducing the numbers by half and assuring the Iraqi troublemaker that we could return at will would be a proper announcement. This show that Obama will twist anything to his benefit not matter who gets hurt. |
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21 Oct 11 - 02:18 PM (#3242619) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: gnu Are there are 78,000 US troops in Iraq, pdq? |
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21 Oct 11 - 03:16 PM (#3242642) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: Greg F. Pure Politics, PeeDee? You mean, as opposed to Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, et. al. lying the country into this idiotic war in the first place? |
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21 Oct 11 - 03:33 PM (#3242652) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: Bonzo3legs Sorry but as with dead gado, dead sado needed a good biffing. |
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21 Oct 11 - 03:40 PM (#3242656) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: BTNG numbers across the net vary from 40,000 US troops, to 78,000 US troops, so take your pick...ahhh I see someone let Bozo the clown in |
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21 Oct 11 - 03:46 PM (#3242663) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp "This shows that Obama will twist anything to his benefit no matter who gets hurt." Obama, pdq? Hell.... You just described in a nutshell what MOST (make that ALMOST ALL) politicians and presidents do every day of their lives...they twist anything to their benefit, no matter who gets hurt. So it's not just Obama that is the problem. He is more of the same, basically just 3 more years of George Bush, masqueradin' as "change" and failin' miserably at it, but he talks way better than Bush did. That man KNOWS how to use a teleprompter! Bush was terrible at it. Who got hurt? Well, mostly it was millions and millions of ordinary Iraqis...plus a few thousand of the invaders, who never shoulda gone there in the first place. - Chongo p.s. I kindly corrected yer 2 careless typos in that above quote, pdq. You can paypal me 25 cents for helpin' out. I make what look like typos too...all the time...but in my case they are deliberate chimp gumshoe "lingo" to portray my lovable character, so it don't count. |
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21 Oct 11 - 03:54 PM (#3242667) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: pdq ...the "s" on my ancient keyboard is "balky", but thank just the ame... |
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21 Oct 11 - 06:31 PM (#3242702) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: artbrooks No military advisers will remain behind. There will reportedly be 150-200 military (all ranks, all branches of service) assigned to the US embassy. There will be a significant number (~5000) of "contractors" who will be doing training, advising and some security duties. |
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21 Oct 11 - 06:39 PM (#3242708) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: gnu I googled... there are presently ~ 40k troops there according to what Wiki says. Where do you guys get 80k? |
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21 Oct 11 - 06:39 PM (#3242709) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: Greg F. Oh, good- Honest-As-The-Day-Is-Long Blackwater & the rest of the Cheney-buddy "contractors" get to stay - at extroadinarily over-bloated expense to U.S. taxpayers. Ya had me worried there fer a minute... |
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21 Oct 11 - 06:49 PM (#3242711) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: katlaughing I am sure the families of our troops are glad to hear it and will be thankful for every day, between now and then, if they don't lose a loved one, before it is done. I don't give a shit about the politics of it which you all seem to want to jump on...oh, another thread of that crap? Sorry, olddude & artbrooks, you are the exceptions. Anyway, it is good news, IMO, and it will be good for our troops to be home. GoodonyaPresidentObama! kat |
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21 Oct 11 - 06:50 PM (#3242714) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: Bobert That's the way they drew it up on paper, Greg... What do you think these 5000 people will be doing??? Borrowing oil, per chance??? B~ |
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21 Oct 11 - 07:00 PM (#3242721) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: olddude All I care about is they are coming home ... Like kat says who give a shit about the politics ... I sure don't |
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21 Oct 11 - 07:15 PM (#3242728) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: Bobert Reality is that 5000+ Americans are staying, ol'ster... Many of these people will be ding exactly what soldiers are now doing just costing US one heck of alot more... B~ |
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21 Oct 11 - 07:33 PM (#3242741) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: Q (Frank Staplin) My only reaction is- It's about time ! |
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21 Oct 11 - 08:06 PM (#3242757) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: Greg F. Clear something up fer me, Bobster: How did our oil get under their sand in the first place? |
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21 Oct 11 - 08:35 PM (#3242773) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: michaelr It's worth noting that, in the details of the arrangement Obama announced Friday, the United States will maintain an Office of Security Cooperation in Iraq, which will consist of hundreds, if not thousands of American defense personnel. Whterher "defense personnel" means actual soldiers or civilian contractors is unclear. |
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21 Oct 11 - 08:40 PM (#3242781) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: olddude Mike less is always better my friend ... I will take it over the 40K we have now ... whatever way get the kids home and do it now that is what I want ... I hate war, I know a lot about war, and I hate it |
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21 Oct 11 - 08:42 PM (#3242785) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: Bobert Ya see, Greg... There's this secret pipeline that runs under the Atlantic Ocean and thru the Mediterranean Sea that connect Iraq with Texas and we're piping all our oil over there so we can keep the military-industrialists happy... What??? You hadn't heard about that??? B;~) |
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21 Oct 11 - 08:43 PM (#3242787) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: BTNG As was pointed out on another thread, the accuracy of Wikipedia is sometimes in question, though I suppose if it supports your side of an arguement, you'll use it. |
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21 Oct 11 - 09:53 PM (#3242815) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: Rapparee Bring 'em all back. Let the Iraqis and the Afghans contract and pay for training and that sort of thing if they want to. Good for Obama...get 'em home and don't send any more. Screw the politics. |
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22 Oct 11 - 12:21 AM (#3242859) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: michaelr Dan, I'm not disagreeing. Bring the kids home, and from Afghanistan too, ASAP. That is a good thing, no doubt. |
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22 Oct 11 - 01:15 PM (#3243105) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: gnu BTNG... "though I suppose if it supports your side of an arguement, you'll use it." You haven't shown any support, Big Talk No Go. |
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22 Oct 11 - 02:37 PM (#3243152) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: Lighter Get ready to laugh. Ready? In 2008, Pres. George W. Bush announced that according to a signed agreement with Baghdad, well publicized by Iraqi media, all U.S. troops should be out Iraq by the end of 2011: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7577730.stm http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2009/07/are_we_done_yet.html Yesterday, comparatively sane Republican Mitt Romney observed that the current (Democratic) President's announcement of troop withdrawal by the end of 2011 is "an astonishing failure" that plays straight into the hands of Iran: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/post/mitt-romney-calls-obama-iraq-decision-an-astonishing-failure/2011/10/21/g Meanwhile, Republican candidate Rick Perry says he'd never announce a withdrawal date because it aids the enemy: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/rick-perry-talks-iraq-and-his-love-affair-with-guns/ I could go on, but you get the picture. |
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22 Oct 11 - 04:04 PM (#3243175) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: Greg F. comparatively sane Republican Mitt Romney Compared to WHAT, fer chrissakes? Meanwhile, Republican candidate Rick Perry says he'd never announce a withdrawal date because it aids the enemy: His version of the BuShite "if you ain't with us, yer a traitor"(or a terrorist). Big surprise. |
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22 Oct 11 - 04:29 PM (#3243190) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: BTNG Only a complete idiot would support keeping anyone's troops in Iraq. Do I believe there will be a complete troop withdrawal..? no I do not. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Obama administration is considering a plan to leave about 3,000 support troops behind at the end of the year, if Iraqis agree. But reports suggest that the Pentagon is angling for more. US military commanders, led by Gen. Lloyd Austin III, the senior commander in Iraq, are proposing that up to 18,000 US troops remain in Iraq after the year-end pull-out date. Currently, about 45,000 US troops are in Iraq. source: The Christian Science Monitor |
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22 Oct 11 - 04:35 PM (#3243196) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: gnu "Currently, about 45,000 US troops are in Iraq." So, where is your support for your statement of 78k troops? Or your apology for slagging me off? Or are you simple a troll? |
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22 Oct 11 - 04:43 PM (#3243204) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: BTNG I didn't say there was 70 thousand, what I actually said was "numbers across the net vary from 40,000 US troops, to 78,000 US troops, so take your pick" I merely quote numbers, not took a personal stance one way ot the other |
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22 Oct 11 - 04:49 PM (#3243209) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: artbrooks BTNG, that article is from early last month. Events - primarily the Iraqi refusal to agree to a Status of Forces Agreement - have long since overtaken it. |
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22 Oct 11 - 04:55 PM (#3243216) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: gnu Big Talk No Go... So, you said something that, to use YOUR words..."though I suppose if it supports your side of an arguement, you'll use it." Fuck yer a piece work. Ya slag me off but yer golden because ya can hide behind interpretation of yer own bullshit posts? Ya know, when ya post crap, people who read yer crap might think you are fulla crap. I certainly do. You have been nasty to me and to others far too many times. I think you are a troll. And not a very good one. I am happy about the announcement. Slag it all ya want Big Twit No Guts. gnightgnu |
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22 Oct 11 - 05:16 PM (#3243220) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: BTNG think as you will...it's of no matter and I stand by my quotes from the net.I have no political axe to grind either way, like some here |
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23 Oct 11 - 12:10 AM (#3243332) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: michaelr Never mind, gnu has no particular axe to grind, either. He just likes to call people trolls. |
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22 Dec 11 - 08:04 AM (#3278290) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: GUEST,Bluesman Watching today's news, looks like they left a little early. |
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22 Dec 11 - 09:30 AM (#3278326) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: Greg F. No, they left just about 9 years too late. |
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22 Dec 11 - 12:48 PM (#3278451) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: Little Hawk Bingo! They are leaving about nine years too late as Greg says, after having launched an illegal, unprovoked war of aggression on a small country that was helpless to do anything about the situation. Their leaving is way overdue, rather like the German exit from occupied France and/or Poland was in 1944. |
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22 Dec 11 - 04:09 PM (#3278558) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: akenaton 70 dead, killed by bombs in Iraq today. Mr Obama said last week "We are leaving with our heads held high, Iraq is now a stable and secure democratic country" Hallelujah brothers!! Isn't democracy wonderful? |
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22 Dec 11 - 04:10 PM (#3278560) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: akenaton Onward and upwards.....anybody for "democracy" in Egypt and Libya? |
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22 Dec 11 - 06:28 PM (#3278623) Subject: RE: BS: US in Iraq officially ends From: Q (Frank Staplin) Now the Shiites and Sunnis can get back to the business of killing each other, and the Iraqi Kurds can manage their own affairs, and further agitation for a united Kurdistan. |