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15 Jan 12 - 04:26 AM (#3290815) Subject: BS: Ken Clarke to destroy UK rule of law? From: Richard Bridge Well, the US has the National Defense Authorisation Act (a very good reason, it seems to me, why no-one should ever face extradition to the USA since the right to a fair trial is not respected), the Irish courts are considering a challenge at the highest level to the European arrest warrant (exposing for example Irish citizens to French courts where the presumption of innocence is NOT the same) and now Ken Clarke wants UK governments to be able to hide evidence of UK security wrongdoing as in cases of Binyam Mohamed and other illegal rendition and complicity in torture. Quis custodiet...? http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/15/henry-porter-ken-clarke-bill-of-rights The sickest part is calling this excuse for Gestapo-like conduct is calling it a "bill of rights". |
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15 Jan 12 - 04:57 AM (#3290819) Subject: RE: BS: Ken Clarke to destroy UK rule of law? From: VirginiaTam whose rights? |
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15 Jan 12 - 10:44 AM (#3290913) Subject: RE: BS: Ken Clarke to destroy UK rule of law? From: banjoman Its a bill that will be paid for by the fall of democracy and any semblance of protection from those who seek to rule us all by subterfuge and mis information. |
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15 Jan 12 - 11:04 AM (#3290926) Subject: RE: BS: Ken Clarke to destroy UK rule of law? From: GUEST,Eliza Will it get past the House of Lords? |
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15 Jan 12 - 02:32 PM (#3291008) Subject: RE: BS: Ken Clarke to destroy UK rule of law? From: Richard Bridge So long as the government is not stupid enough to introduce it in the House of Lords, the Parliament Acts will ensure its passage. |
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15 Jan 12 - 02:42 PM (#3291009) Subject: RE: BS: Ken Clarke to destroy UK rule of law? From: GUEST,Eliza It's a carte-blanche and a smoke screen for corruption. |
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15 Jan 12 - 06:39 PM (#3291140) Subject: RE: BS: Ken Clarke to destroy UK rule of law? From: Leadfingers The current Extradition set up is TOTALLY weighted in favour of USA = Something else that Princess Tony lumbered us with isnt it ? |
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16 Jan 12 - 12:53 AM (#3291249) Subject: RE: BS: Ken Clarke to destroy UK rule of law? From: Richard Bridge Terry, I agree that the US/UK extradition treaty is a disgrace and we should scrap it at once. What will the US do, send a gunboat? |
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16 Jan 12 - 04:30 AM (#3291281) Subject: RE: BS: Ken Clarke to destroy UK rule of law? From: GUEST,Shimrod I suspect that the whole economy of the Western world is now on the brink of an unimaginable catastrophe. It's all far worse than we have been told so far and is irreversible. Big Business and their willing politician 'hand maidens' (we elect them, they put all their efforts into supporting BB and the mega-rich) have f***ed up royally. When the inevitable happens there is a whole shit-storm of social unrest heading their way and they're putting draconian laws in place to protect themselves. |
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16 Jan 12 - 05:39 AM (#3291300) Subject: RE: BS: Ken Clarke to destroy UK rule of law? From: VirginiaTam What will the US do, send a gunboat? What Shimrod said. |
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16 Jan 12 - 05:57 AM (#3291303) Subject: RE: BS: Ken Clarke to destroy UK rule of law? From: Jim Carroll What Shimrod and Virginia said Jim Carroll |