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BS: What's an American snark?

17 Jan 12 - 05:01 PM (#3291733)
Subject: BS: What's an American snark?
From: Big Al Whittle

I was reading the Kumbaya thread, and an American politician was accused of snarkiness?

In England, a Snark is a well loved electronic guitar tuner (I've got two!)

What would you have to do to be considered a bit of snark in America?

There is a famous nonsense poem, called hunting the snark. Which I think may be about finding the G spot.


17 Jan 12 - 05:07 PM (#3291736)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: Jeri

Sarcasm


17 Jan 12 - 05:50 PM (#3291759)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: Bee-dubya-ell

Wikipedia: The Northrop SM-62 Snark was a specialized intercontinental cruise missile with a W39 nuclear warhead operated by the U.S. Strategic Air Command from 1958 until 1961. It takes its name from Lewis Carroll's snark.

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17 Jan 12 - 05:53 PM (#3291762)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: Big Al Whittle

so someone who does snarkiness is not a snark.....?


17 Jan 12 - 05:59 PM (#3291766)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: Rapparee

Well, usually they're elected and their ethics softly and silently vanish away, if they had any to start with.


17 Jan 12 - 06:10 PM (#3291772)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

In American Dialect, snark is defined as "to annoy, perhaps alteration of nark to irritate. [1906]; snarky; crotchety, snappish."
Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 10th Edition.

Nark- Two meanings, both English in origin:
nark, Brit., to irritate, to annoy (c. 1888), origin unknown.
nark, perhaps from Romany nak, nose. 1860 British - stool pigeon.


17 Jan 12 - 07:14 PM (#3291804)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: Amos

Snarky remarks are those also described as needling, with a connotation of underhanded vitiation.


17 Jan 12 - 07:54 PM (#3291828)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: kendall

Vitiation, there's a word you don't see every day.


17 Jan 12 - 07:56 PM (#3291829)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: kendall

Hey, Amos, it's only 6 months til Old Songs.


17 Jan 12 - 07:58 PM (#3291832)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: Bobert

Hey, it ain't snarks that we hunt... It's snipes... Got it??? It's snipes...

B~


17 Jan 12 - 08:21 PM (#3291846)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

snipe- "any of various usu. slender-billed birds of the same family as the sandpipers.....genus Gallinago."
Webster's Collegiate Dictionary.

And I thought they were protected.


17 Jan 12 - 08:25 PM (#3291851)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: Bobert

The sumabcihes outtta be protected, Q, 'cause millions of kids have hunted them and no one has ever so much as seen one??? I mean, that is rare, Q...

B~


17 Jan 12 - 08:33 PM (#3291855)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: gnu

Now, let's not get snarky about sniping eh?


17 Jan 12 - 09:20 PM (#3291875)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: Jeri

Sneering about snarky sniping is gnot gnice, gnu!


17 Jan 12 - 09:23 PM (#3291877)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: gnu

Snorry.


17 Jan 12 - 09:38 PM (#3291881)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: Jeri

Snot snerious.


17 Jan 12 - 09:41 PM (#3291887)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: Bobert

Is-not...


17 Jan 12 - 09:45 PM (#3291889)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: Jeri

Exsnactly!


17 Jan 12 - 10:21 PM (#3291906)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: Amos

US useter holler down the speaking tubes to the snipes on throttle watch to keep them from falling asleep on duty. Routine part of bridge watch, keeping the snipes awake.


17 Jan 12 - 10:23 PM (#3291909)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: Bee-dubya-ell

I'm not much worried by snarky people. It's the boojumish ones I can't stand.


17 Jan 12 - 10:42 PM (#3291918)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: GUEST,Mark-s(on the road)

Snark was (still is?) a manufacturer of pleasure boats, located in, I think, New Jersey.
Said to be highly regarded, but I would not know!!


17 Jan 12 - 11:42 PM (#3291943)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: JohnInKansas

"Snark" is also the name of a widely advertised portable vacuum cleaner - hand held in use and with a battery charger built into the wall hanger, and about as useful as tits on a snake.

John


18 Jan 12 - 05:08 AM (#3292002)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: DMcG

There is a famous nonsense poem, called hunting the snark.

I don't have the books to hand, by Lewis Carroll wrote something along the lines of:

I was out for a walk and suddenly the line 'For the Snark was a Boojum you see'. I knew not what it meant then, and I know not was it means now, but [then goes on to describe writing the poem]


18 Jan 12 - 05:09 AM (#3292004)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: DMcG

... you see' occurred to me. ...


18 Jan 12 - 07:32 AM (#3292052)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: GUEST,beardedbruce

Here you are, DMcG:


http://www.gutenberg.org/files/13/13-h/13-h.htm


18 Jan 12 - 07:46 AM (#3292058)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: DMcG

Thanks, bb. I think I must have about four copies of this at home in various guises (as a poem, in collected works etc), and have a particular soft spot for the one who was famed for the number of things he forgot when he entered the ship. Been there, done that!

What I can't remember is the essay in which LC describes how he came to write the poem, but for this thread the main point is clear: He didn't know what a snark was either!


18 Jan 12 - 09:11 AM (#3292101)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: SINSULL

A fictional animal created by Lewis Carroll. A fellow traveler accused our guide of sending us on a snark hunt when we went looking for lyre birds in Australia and were told that every sound - baby crying to chain saws - was probably a lyre bird, a mimic.
We did not see one.


18 Jan 12 - 10:51 AM (#3292158)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: Will Fly

That guide was obviously a dirty rotten lyre.


18 Jan 12 - 12:00 PM (#3292192)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: Big Al Whittle

'For the Snark was a Boojum you see'.

I haven't smoked anything that good since 1968.


18 Jan 12 - 02:16 PM (#3292276)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: GUEST,Eliza

The metallic one would be a copper snark, given to grassing on his fellow crooks.


18 Jan 12 - 02:19 PM (#3292278)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: open mike

nark is derived from the word narcotic

snarks reminded me of snipes, too.

as rare as a striped ape...
and as fast as one too?

have you ever seen a striped ape?
see, I told you so!


18 Jan 12 - 03:07 PM (#3292310)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: gnu

I imagine a snark, by definition.


18 Jan 12 - 03:15 PM (#3292318)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: Ebbie

Speaking of snipes, I've never understood why the snipe was chosen as a mythical bird for the infamous hunt.

The snipe most definitely is a real bird- odd-looking with its short, stubby tail and its long, long slender bill but it is real.


18 Jan 12 - 05:29 PM (#3292401)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: Skivee

Bee-dubya-ell, when the The Northrop SM-62 Snark cruise missile was being developed, they were flown off launchers at Cape Canaveral, cruised around the Atlantic Missile Test Range off Florida, then landed on a runway back at the cape.
There were many crashes from problems with control and reliability. One news report wryly noted the "snark infested water off the launch site.


18 Jan 12 - 05:59 PM (#3292425)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

The snipe was chosen for the hunt because it is almost impossible to run down on marshy ground. It has been avered that the first snipe hunt ended when one of the hunters mired down in marshy quicksand and was lost.


18 Jan 12 - 06:03 PM (#3292428)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

As previously posted, "Nark" is not derived from narcotic, but from Romany nak or nose.
OED


18 Jan 12 - 06:44 PM (#3292455)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler

And then there's Snark Rapper, a shot hit dance side in the UK .... .. ..


19 Jan 12 - 11:25 AM (#3292848)
Subject: RE: BS: What's an American snark?
From: Big Al Whittle

I am, therefore I snark.