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11 Mar 12 - 04:41 PM (#3321415) Subject: BS: Campaign of impersonation on Facebook From: Richard Bridge http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/11/china-spies-facebook-attack-nato Well well, who would have expected any such thing, and surely people are more careful than that about believing what they see on facebook, aren't they? |
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11 Mar 12 - 07:28 PM (#3321481) Subject: RE: BS: Campaign of impersonation on Facebook From: GUEST,999 What a fucking surprise! |
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11 Mar 12 - 10:44 PM (#3321566) Subject: RE: BS: Campaign of impersonation on Facebook From: JohnInKansas It is understood that all NATO officers were ordered to immediately create their own real Facebook pages, to preclude the possibility of being impersonated there. I guess that's what's called "positive countermeasures" in the new military ... John |
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12 Mar 12 - 02:41 AM (#3321603) Subject: RE: BS: Campaign of impersonation on Facebook From: Richard Bridge Er - how does having one's own facebook page prevent the creation of a fake one? |
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12 Mar 12 - 03:11 AM (#3321608) Subject: RE: BS: Campaign of impersonation on Facebook From: GUEST,CS Love the way the Guardian article smoothly segues between "bloke is impersonated on facebook" page to: "The sophistication and relentlessness of these "advanced persistent threat" cyber attacks has convinced intelligence agencies on both sides of the Atlantic that they must have been state-sponsored. Nato has warned its top officials about the dangers of being impersonated on social networking sites, and awarded a £40m contract to a major defence company to bolster security at the organisation's headquarters and 50 other sites across Europe." |
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12 Mar 12 - 05:25 AM (#3321632) Subject: RE: BS: Campaign of impersonation on Facebook From: Nigel Parsons Love the way the Guardian article smoothly segues between "bloke is impersonated on facebook" page to: "The sophistication and relentlessness of these "advanced persistent threat" cyber attacks has convinced intelligence agencies on both sides of the Atlantic that they must have been state-sponsored. Nato has warned its top officials about the dangers of being impersonated on social networking sites, and awarded a £40m contract to a major defence company to bolster security at the organisation's headquarters and 50 other sites across Europe." Nice segue, but I liked the front page of The Telegraph Friday before last. Full width (of the page) picture of the Queen, The Duchess of Cornwall & the Duchess of Cambridge. Below the picture was a full width headline of the lead story: Witchcraft Threat to Children My immediate thought was of the classic groups of three witches (see Shakespeare, or Terry Pratchett) described as Matron/Mother Hag/Crone & Maiden. I did wonder whether the juxtaposition was accidental, or not. |
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12 Mar 12 - 06:07 AM (#3321639) Subject: RE: BS: Campaign of impersonation on Facebook From: JohnInKansas RB - I don't do Facebook, but I've seen some "policies" that say you must provide a "real name" and email address to create a log-in. They do, I believe, make a pretext of verifying an identity, so if the name is already registered with them it creates at least a possibility that Facebook would be suspicious of an attempt to create a new phony site for the same person. Of course having a real Facebook page provides something for anyone with malicious intent to hack, deface, modify, or just observe, with all of the same results as creating a fake one. Since it has been shown that a majority (slightly over 50%?) of persons with "executive authority" use the passwords "12345" or "54321" or "password" finding the passwords to get full access to at least some of the new accounts is likely to be almost trivial. Hence came my slightly sarcastic comment about "positive countermeasures." John |
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12 Mar 12 - 07:29 AM (#3321650) Subject: RE: BS: Campaign of impersonation on Facebook From: GUEST Read this http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/02/05/facebook.impostors/index.html?iref=mpstoryview This link was posted by the mudcat troll |
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12 Mar 12 - 10:59 AM (#3321731) Subject: RE: BS: Campaign of impersonation on Facebook From: Mayet I notice in the article CNN report that the person who was impersonated stated "All Internet users should be aware their identities can be compromised, and "every user of the Web should be better educated," Sound advice. Although Facebook has excellent optional privacy settings (but only if you use them)it is important to be careful just who you 'confirm' as a friend, although simply checking before you click is usually sufficient, otherwise you are at risk of not only divulging your own personal details and photos but those of your genuine friends as well. The same advice is even more important in an open forum such as this which has also suffered from imitation and impersonation of its members. Useful information from Facebook "What should I do if someone is pretending to be me? If someone has created an account to impersonate or imitate you, please go to the impostor profile (timeline) and click "Report this Person" in the left column. Check the "Report this Person" box, choose "Fake Account" as the reason, and add "Impersonating me or someone else" as the report type. Be sure to add a valid web address (URL) leading to the real profile (timeline), so we can review the information." |
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12 Mar 12 - 12:18 PM (#3321770) Subject: RE: BS: Campaign of impersonation on Facebook From: Richard Bridge The report function is limited to 300 characters for input so it is very very limited. The Facebook response to "impersonating someone else" is "Well get them to complain then". That is so even if the person impersonated hasn't got a facebook log-in and doesn't want one. The only check on "real name" I have seen is for facebook to send an email asking "is this you" - and of course the impersonator will say "Oh, yes, its really me that's my name too, by a happy chance". Facebook really does need to sharpen up its game. But generally, what Mayet says is right. |
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12 Mar 12 - 12:23 PM (#3321774) Subject: RE: BS: Campaign of impersonation on Facebook From: GUEST,ars technica reader Look outside Facebook for information about how Facebook works. Facebook is annoyingly opaque when it comes to finding and fixing privacy settings. Rule of thumb, if an ad for a security or stalker app pops up on your wall, don't follow it. You have to dig to find and correct your Facebook settings, anything that is easy is a scam. Those facebook "stalker "apps"? They don't work, so avoid them "Considering how much information the normal Facebook apps can legitimately collect from your profile, it's wise to avoid apps that don't do what they claim (after all, if you can't trust a developer to market the app to you honestly, you can't trust him or her to use your data properly either). Don't fall for apps that pretend to tell you who's looking at your profile—they're not real!—and give into temptation with the unfriend scripts either. You're better off without them." |
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12 Mar 12 - 12:26 PM (#3321779) Subject: RE: BS: Campaign of impersonation on Facebook From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp Oddly enough, the Chinese have not yet tried to compromise ME in this diabolical fashion. I am gonna act pre-emptively so's they never get the chance to. - Chongo |
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12 Mar 12 - 03:00 PM (#3321856) Subject: RE: BS: Campaign of impersonation on Facebook From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray The Chinese (at least I think it's them) created my Facebook page ages ago though for what purposes I haven't as yet fully figured out (though the word is they think I'm a good deal more subversive than I actually am). I must say, they're doing a very good job of it - with convincing pics, drawings, asides & regular updates on the everyday minutiae of my everyday life (as anyone with a Facebook account can see for themselves HERE) thus very kindly saving me the bother of having to do it myself. |
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12 Mar 12 - 03:01 PM (#3321857) Subject: RE: BS: Campaign of impersonation on Facebook From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray Er - HERE? |
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12 Mar 12 - 06:15 PM (#3321926) Subject: RE: BS: Campaign of impersonation on Facebook From: Richard Bridge Gosh Sweeney, most of those plastic Chinese copies look almost like the real thing. |
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12 Mar 12 - 06:33 PM (#3321937) Subject: RE: BS: Campaign of impersonation on Facebook From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray Impressive, isn't it? They've even picked up on my love of the great Charlie Hall (1899–1959) - I reckon he must be considered a truly subversive icon. Mind you, most of my posts here on Mudcat are plastic copies too. Who knows what's real anymore? |
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12 Mar 12 - 07:41 PM (#3321955) Subject: RE: BS: Campaign of impersonation on Facebook From: Richard Bridge But that doesn't make it a folk art. |
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12 Mar 12 - 08:41 PM (#3321963) Subject: RE: BS: Campaign of impersonation on Facebook From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp I wish they woulda done the same fer me, Suibhne. I love readin' about myself, even if what I'm readin' ain't strictly true, and I figger it could only help raise my profile and get me some more votes. Maybe I should threaten to stop "eatin' Chinese" for a month. Yeah...that should get their attention. Or better yet...I could threaten to lead a nation-wide simian boycott of WalMart! This would lose the place at least 38% of its customers. - Chongo |
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12 Mar 12 - 09:34 PM (#3321983) Subject: RE: BS: Campaign of impersonation on Facebook From: JohnInKansas I recently got bored enough to run a Google on my mudcat name. I found a few more than a half dozen others using my name elsewhere, and in the first 10 pages of results about six references to my posts at mudcat. All of the "hits" were for things posted on other sites. Four of the six misquoted something. Only one identified where the quote/misquote came from accurately enough for someone to find the original here. (The one that gave a link posted it incorrectly so it didn't work, but gave a thread number that any of us here could have used to find the post.) I got too bored with it to go to the next page of results. John |
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13 Mar 12 - 01:10 AM (#3322051) Subject: RE: BS: Campaign of impersonation on Facebook From: Richard Bridge Are they sinister (or perhaps I should say extradextra)? |