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BS: Absolutely!

20 Mar 12 - 01:13 PM (#3325779)
Subject: BS: Absolutely!
From: GUEST,Shimrod

Has anyone else noticed the over-use of the word "absolutely!".

I idly recorded (via ticks on a piece of paper) how many times I heard it used, on radio and TV, on a normal day between 7:00 am and 7:00 pm the other day - and came up with 102 (OK, I was bored that day and confined to the house with a cold). "Absolutely!" now replaces such words and phrases as:

"I agree with you."
"I agree with you very much."
"How true."
"That's true."

and

"Yes."

I find it a bit annoying - but I'm not sure why ... ?


20 Mar 12 - 01:20 PM (#3325783)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: GUEST,999

The censors have a problem with "Fuckin' right ya are!"


20 Mar 12 - 01:20 PM (#3325784)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: SINSULL

Absolutely Fabulous!

Another Stoli please.


20 Mar 12 - 01:32 PM (#3325793)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: fat B****rd

OMG like Y'know.


20 Mar 12 - 01:34 PM (#3325796)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: JohnInKansas

I thought it was used mostly as a shorthand for:

"you're too stupid to argue with so I'll accept that there is plausible cause to believe you may have accidentally said something containing a miniscule fragment of factual content."

On reflection, it seems that it's becoming more frequent to use the term for

"Hey, I'm as gullible as you are."

John


20 Mar 12 - 01:41 PM (#3325804)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: John MacKenzie

WONDERFUL. This has been one of my pet hates for years. When someone responds to a question with the absolutely word, my response is always to shout at the radio ABSOLUTELY FUCKING WHAT ?????????????????????
It's almost as overused as 'Diva'


20 Mar 12 - 04:32 PM (#3325859)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: rumanci

"It's almost as overused as 'Diva'"

or AWESOME

or BLESS

Pardon me while I heave at 'em all


20 Mar 12 - 04:37 PM (#3325861)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Amos

Oh, god bless you absolutely for mentioning it!! I abso-fucking-lutely agree completely. Literally.


A


20 Mar 12 - 04:38 PM (#3325862)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Lighter

Sure you're not thinking of "totally"?

Forty years ago it was "definitely."

And, if memory serves, before that it was "positively."


20 Mar 12 - 04:41 PM (#3325864)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: katlaughing

My grandson has been using "surely" recently. I hadn't heard it used in years, at least not often. It sounds good and different.:-)


20 Mar 12 - 04:43 PM (#3325865)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Bill D

I hate 'em all.. yaknowhadimean?


20 Mar 12 - 06:01 PM (#3325896)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Beer

Hate this one " Right On".


20 Mar 12 - 06:05 PM (#3325901)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: katlaughing

Hey, man, that's too kewl!


20 Mar 12 - 06:21 PM (#3325908)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: saulgoldie

This can only get worse before it gets worser, still.

Saul


20 Mar 12 - 06:36 PM (#3325916)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Little Hawk

"I hear you." (Nothing like stating the totally fucking obvious, is there?)

"Don't go there." (Do they really mean that when they say it?)

"I could care less." (No you couldn't, moron. And that is the whole point. You couldn't care less! If you could care less, then you would care less, wouldn't you?)


20 Mar 12 - 07:20 PM (#3325942)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

ABSOLUTELY!

GfS


20 Mar 12 - 07:27 PM (#3325947)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Steve Shaw

You're well in order raising this, innit.


20 Mar 12 - 07:37 PM (#3325953)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: JennieG

Yep........

A popular one here is "as"....a friend who was describing her fairly new granddaughter recently said "she's as cute as"......as what? a daisy? another baby? a chimp? I think it started off as a teenage thing but has spread to the older generation. Sort of like mumps in reverse.

It bugs me. Absolutely. It is as annoying as.

Cheers
JennieG


20 Mar 12 - 07:38 PM (#3325955)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Steve Shaw

Yeah, what is that "I could care less" Merkan thing all about? And, while we're at it, "me either"?


20 Mar 12 - 07:40 PM (#3325957)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Steve Shaw

And what's this new-fangled "going forward" crap all about?!


20 Mar 12 - 07:54 PM (#3325964)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Bee-dubya-ell

I agree about "going forward." The only thing that's really "going forward" is time. I wonder if people who use the term are from some other universe where "going backward" is an option?


20 Mar 12 - 08:08 PM (#3325973)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Steve Shaw

Yeah, people, absolutely quit using "going forward" as of right now. Period. End of.


20 Mar 12 - 08:10 PM (#3325974)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Steve Shaw

I saw a thing on the telly a little while ago that had a female teacher saying to a class of all girls "OK, listen up now, guys..."


20 Mar 12 - 08:15 PM (#3325978)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Steve Shaw: (Good ol' Steve Shaw),
Yeah, people, absolutely quit using "going forward" as of right now. Period. End of."

Considering the source, YOU might prefer, 'Going backwards'

GfS


20 Mar 12 - 08:15 PM (#3325979)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Joe_F

..., Mr Gallagher!
Positively, Mr Sheen!


20 Mar 12 - 08:35 PM (#3325988)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T

""My grandson has been using "surely" recently.""

Gently respond with "Don't call me Shirley!"

Five or six times, and it will disappear from his vocabulary.

Worked on my son.

Don T.


20 Mar 12 - 08:36 PM (#3325989)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Rapparee

Fuckin' aye, dude. Damn fuckin' straight!


20 Mar 12 - 08:50 PM (#3326001)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Steve Shaw

Not the first incomprehensible post I've ever read from Gusts So Insanitary. Not by a long chalk, like. Innit.


20 Mar 12 - 10:10 PM (#3326062)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: ChanteyLass

This thread is brilliant." : )


20 Mar 12 - 10:38 PM (#3326085)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Rapparee: "Fuckin' aye, dude. Damn fuckin' straight!"

Took the words right out of my mouth!!!!....except, I would have omitted, "dude"......Dude!

GfS


21 Mar 12 - 12:59 AM (#3326108)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: JennieG

Steve Shaw, I used to work in a girls' school - and many's the time I heard teachers address a gaggle of teenage gels as "guys".

You know what really peeves me? (I could say pisses me off, but I'm a lady) (sometimes) It's people who swallow their words and mumble indistinctly, so that "absolutely" comes out "absy".

Cheers
JennieG


21 Mar 12 - 05:41 AM (#3326167)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: GUEST,Eliza

I'm a great fan of 'Lee Nelson's Well Good Show' on TV. He makes me die with his London jargon such as 'Innit?' and 'Qualitee!' I'm afraid language and usage are constantly evolving, 'twas always thus. Take comfort in the fact that annoying usages will soon die out and be replaced by new (equally annoying?) ones!


21 Mar 12 - 05:44 AM (#3326168)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Steve Shaw

Agreed, Jennie. And I'm old enough to remember a posh newsreader telling us of the round-the-world sailing exploits of "Sir Frawncis Chishhter." In addition, it seems that you're disqualified from reporting for the Beeb unless you think the word is "deteriate." And will the Home Seckertry be making any speeches next Febry?


21 Mar 12 - 05:53 AM (#3326173)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: GUEST,Eliza

And that's Home Seckerty with a Haitch!


21 Mar 12 - 06:02 AM (#3326176)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: MartinRyan

"guys" is an interesting one. I seem to hear it mostly used by women addressing mixed gender groups - a kind of "halfway house" approach, I suppose. In Ireland, you will often hear "Ah, lads!" used in a similar way.

Regards


21 Mar 12 - 06:22 AM (#3326184)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: saulgoldie

Unfortunately (for those who hate them) but fortunately (for those who appreciate new words and phrases), some of these abominations will end up in the dickshunairy. Language is dynamic. New ways of expressing a thought are always popping up, and olde ones fade away. Some have longer lives than others. Use what you think is useful, and shun those you don't. And, of course, mercilessly correct those you think are abusing the language. You gotta!

"I could *NOT* care less." If "you *COULD* care less," than [whatever] may be not very important, but is still not of no concern at all.
and
"The sixty-four thousand dollar question!" (Look it up.) Geddit right, or don't use it!

BTW, Save the semicolon!

Saul


21 Mar 12 - 06:46 AM (#3326192)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Leadfingers

Over use of 'Absolutely' is NOT exactly a new phenonemum ! I remember hearing a song making the point Twenty Years ago - Dave Something from Ooop North somewhere


21 Mar 12 - 06:55 AM (#3326196)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Steve Shaw

So as to avoid errors in posting, let us remind ourselves of the rules of good English:

1.        Verbs HAS to agree with their subjects.
2.        Prepositions are not words to end sentences with.
3.        And don't start a sentence with a conjunction.
4.        It is wrong to ever split an infinitive.
5.        Avoid cliches like the plague. (They're old hat)
6.        Also, always avoid annoying alliteration.
7.        Be more or less specific.
8.        Parenthetical remarks (however relevant) are (usually)    unnecessary.
9.        Also too, never, ever use repetitive redundancies.
10.        No sentence fragments.
11.        Contractions aren't necessary and shouldn't be used.
12.        Foreign words and phrases are not apropos.
13.        Do not be redundant; do not use more words than necessary;   
it's highly superfluous.
14.        One should NEVER generalize.
15.        Comparisons are as bad as cliches.
16.        Don't use no double negatives.
17.        Eschew ampersands & abbreviations, etc.
18.        One-word sentences? Eliminate.
19.        Analogies in writing are like feathers on a snake.
20.        The passive voice is to be ignored.
21.        Eliminate commas, that are, not necessary. Parenthetical words> however should be enclosed in commas.
22.        Never use a big word when a diminutive one would suffice.
23.        Use words correctly, irregardless of how others use them.
24.        Understatement is always the absolute best way to put forth earth shaking ideas.
25.        Use the apostrophe in it's proper place and omit it when its not needed.
26.        Eliminate quotations. As Ralph Waldo Emerson said, "I hate quotations. Tell me what you know."
27.        If you've heard it once, you've heard it a thousand times: Resist hyperbole; not one writer in a million can use it correctly.
28.        Puns are for children, not groan readers.
29.        Go around the barn at high noon to avoid colloquialisms.
30.        Even IF a mixed metaphor sings, it should be derailed.
31.        Who needs rhetorical questions?
32.        Exaggeration is a billion times worse than understatement. And finally...
33.        Proofread carefully to see if you any words out.


21 Mar 12 - 10:24 AM (#3326318)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: John MacKenzie

Then there's 'very unique', and responding to the question, 'How are you' with the one word "GOOD"
People in the UK who have no idea about baseball, using the expression 'Stepping up to the plate'
Then there's upskilling, and summitting, not forgetting leveraging.
I will continue anon.


21 Mar 12 - 10:47 AM (#3326339)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: GUEST,olddude

Joe hates it when I keep saying LOL
but it is easier than laughing my ass off ... and more politically correct lol lol lol


21 Mar 12 - 11:28 AM (#3326359)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: GUEST,Shimrod

Brilliant, Steve! Lol! I will like absolutely keep that to refer in future with.


21 Mar 12 - 11:33 AM (#3326363)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Mr Happy

..........& then there's concepts described as 'fantastic' , 'fabulous', 'unbelievable' all of which, particularly when used in advertising give me always the opposite impression of what the users may've intended i.e. all these statements are untrue aka lies!


21 Mar 12 - 11:37 AM (#3326364)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: GUEST,olddude

Today the young kids use the word "sick" to describe something great
"Oh I your earrings are like so sick" what it that about


21 Mar 12 - 11:43 AM (#3326373)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Little Hawk

It's the same as saying "bad" or "wicked" when you mean "good". "Bad" became very popular in the 1980s, so much so that Michael Jackson built a whole song around how "bad" he supposedly was. He was trying to be even "badder" than Prince, but I don't think he succeeded.


21 Mar 12 - 12:14 PM (#3326400)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Amos

I recall a day when greatness had scale and merit; today, anything of the most mediocre scale and the most ordinary import has greatness thrust upon it by weak minds. Isn't that great?


21 Mar 12 - 12:32 PM (#3326418)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Mr Happy

As a UK'er I find it irritating when the adjective 'great' is applied as in 'Great Britain' to mean 'the best' , 'champion' rather than as it's intended to mean as 'large Britain' as opposed to 'small Britain'[Brittany]


21 Mar 12 - 01:00 PM (#3326440)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: rumanci

ref: your earlier post Mr Happy about spurious advertising claims I always remember one from my early years about washing powder i.e.
"nothing works better than ****"
I used to immediately think
well, use nothing then!


21 Mar 12 - 01:11 PM (#3326445)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: John MacKenzie

True soap advertising


21 Mar 12 - 01:29 PM (#3326452)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: GUEST,Lizzie Absolutely Cornish

"The censors have a problem with "Fuckin' right ya are!"

That's well good, Bruce! :0)

Hey, some of you guys are gettin' old!


21 Mar 12 - 01:42 PM (#3326459)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: SINSULL

at this point in time...ARGHHHHH!

There's an insurance or used car ad running that opens with the usual "Nobody can save you more." A quiet well dressed man then introduces himself as Nobody.
LIKE


21 Mar 12 - 03:02 PM (#3326514)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Little Hawk

Nobody would dare do that!


21 Mar 12 - 03:27 PM (#3326534)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: VirginiaTam

Indeed! Meaning I concur with all of the above.

Ya'll have a nice day, ya hear!


21 Mar 12 - 03:50 PM (#3326551)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Bert

Guys,

the word man has always been allowed to be inclusive. It is women who have their own special word.


21 Mar 12 - 04:43 PM (#3326574)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: JennieG

For some years now, sporting matches here have been described as "clashes".....as in, "Norths and Wests will clash on Saturday". When is wrong with saying "North and West will play on Saturday"? It's become very prevalent. Do other countries have clashes on their fields of sport, or is this peculiar to Oz? Peculiar it is......

Cheers
JennieG


21 Mar 12 - 04:47 PM (#3326576)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Little Hawk

Hockey brawls are sometimes referred to by Canadian sports commentators as "a brouhaha" or "a donnybrook". This makes it sound a little higher class and intelligent than just calling it a brawl or a fight.


21 Mar 12 - 05:05 PM (#3326589)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp

What really gets me mad is people callin' apes "monkeys" all the time! Apes are not monkeys!!! I am gonna prosecute 'em all for specist hate crimes after I get elected.

- Chongo


21 Mar 12 - 06:30 PM (#3326629)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: JennieG

Fair enough too, Chongo! I heartily concur.

"Donnybrook" sounds quite Irish (which of course it is - although there are many places named Donnybrook in the rest of the world, including three in Oz) and "brouhaha" sounds quite English and posh, although it's apparently of French origin! "Brawl" sounds very lower-class, as does "fight", so you are probably right, you know.

Cheers
JennieG


21 Mar 12 - 07:18 PM (#3326659)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T

I fume when Media journalists (who are presumed to be writers) refer to "a phenomena" or "one criteria", both plurals.

It appears that their education in their mother tongue bypassed the singular "phenomenon" and "criterion".

Don T.


21 Mar 12 - 08:05 PM (#3326692)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: ChanteyLass

Three pronunciations I dislike, especially when they pop out of my very own mouth (and before anyone gets mad, I know some of these are regional pronunciations and are fine elsewhere, but not where I have always lived):

Jewlery (or jewlry) for jewelry
Nuculer for nuclear
Relator for realtor

And I also get mad at myself when I use an all-too-frequent local way of pronouncing words by putting an r-sound where it doesn't belong or leaving it out where it does. Examples are the names Pauler instead of Paula and Heatha instead of Heather.


21 Mar 12 - 09:18 PM (#3326728)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Steve Shaw

What about that well-known lady policeman, Laura Norder?


21 Mar 12 - 09:32 PM (#3326731)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: GUEST,Donal

Plan ahead, it's much better than planning retrospectively.


21 Mar 12 - 09:43 PM (#3326737)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: frogprince

Chantey Lass, f'goodness sake find a better excuse for getting mad at yourself than pronouncing things the way people around you pronounce them. : )

My father-in-law is from Massachusetts, although he has lived here in Michigan for many years now. One of the first times I was at his home, he kept mentioning that he needed to go to Lenid. For the life of me I couldn't think of a Lenid, Michigan. Leonard, however, is just a few miles from his place. But then I guess he needs to save up rs for when he refers to things like Marr Bell, the telephone company.


22 Mar 12 - 04:44 PM (#3327271)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: GUEST,Eliza

Laura Norder lives in Letsby Avenue.


22 Mar 12 - 05:34 PM (#3327301)
Subject: RE: BS: Absolutely!
From: Jim Dixon

It is what it is.

I'm just sayin'.