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Spider John in UK

29 Mar 12 - 06:28 AM (#3330529)
Subject: Spider John in UK
From: Roger the Skiffler

I'm lairy of plugging upcoming gigs I'm excited about as the Skiffler's Curse often leads to them being cancelled (perhaps it's fear I'm going to perform!) but this is too good, not to plug & I've got my ticket! I mentioned in passing on another thread that veteran (well he's older than me!) bluesman Spider John Koerner is at the monthly blues night at Reading's South Street on 19th July. I assume he'll be playing other UK dates around then but the last time I checked his website there were none lsited.
RtS


30 Mar 12 - 05:51 AM (#3331024)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: Roger the Skiffler

No other UK fans?

RtS


30 Mar 12 - 06:22 AM (#3331036)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: Big Al Whittle

Oh god yes! Loved the music. My most important introduction to blues guitar was The Blues Project. Loved Southbound Train. Still no clue as to how he played My Little Woman!

Saw him at Cousins a couple of times. Took his responsibilities very seriously and played alllll night! Nost acts used to bugger offstage when ever the fancy took them.

Derek Brimstone travelled with him for a while and said in those days SJ used to lose concentration some nights and do the same song twice, which pissed off a few audiences. I have his DVD of Blues Rags and Hollers and - he's one artist whose name on the cover guarantees thatI'll buy the magazine.

I'd love to make Reading. The thing is my wife is waiting for a shoulder replacement operation so it makes long term planning a bit difficult.

But my God yes, I'm a fan....! Do you know the guy, Roger?


30 Mar 12 - 06:27 AM (#3331038)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: greg stephens

Surprised nobody's put the arm on me to set up another gig. We put him on a Stoke a couple of years back as part of his last tour.Great gig it was, too.


30 Mar 12 - 07:28 AM (#3331052)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: greg stephens

That was funny. No sooner had I posted the previous message but the phone rang: Dave Peabody seeing if I wanted to promote a Spider John gig in July!


30 Mar 12 - 08:08 AM (#3331064)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: GUEST,Spleen Cringe

Hope he plays in the north west again. Saw him at the Bury gig (and at Moseley Folk Festival) last time he was here and he was fantastic.


30 Mar 12 - 08:20 AM (#3331071)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: Roger the Skiffler

Al, I only know him from his recordings, looking forward to seeing him in person.
RtS


30 Mar 12 - 01:16 PM (#3331192)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: GUEST

I assume he'll be playing other UK dates around then but the last time I checked his website there were none lsited.

His last British tour was organised by fRoots, they did a huge article on him a couple of years ago. I'd be surprised if they don't know about it.


30 Mar 12 - 01:53 PM (#3331213)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: PHJim

Does he ever play his seven string any more? All of the current photos seem to show him with a 12.


28 Jun 12 - 10:53 AM (#3369077)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: Roger the Skiffler

At last John's website has his full UK dates:
July 12
Thurs        THE GREEN NOTE        Camden, London        Spider John and 'Chip' Taylor Smith        tba
July 14
Sat        ARLINGTON ARTS CENTRE        nr. Newbury, Berkshire        Spider John and 'Chip' Taylor Smith        tba
July 15
Sun        THE GLOBE HOTEL        Topsham, Devon        Spider John and 'Chip' Taylor Smith        tba
July 16
Mon        St. BONAVENTURES        Bristol        Spider John and 'Chip' Taylor Smith        tba
July 18
Wed        Cluny 2        Newcastle        Spider John and 'Chip' Taylor Smith        tba
July 19
Thur        SOUTH STREET ARTS CENTRE        Reading, Berkshire        Spider John and 'Chip' Taylor Smith        8pm
July 24
Thurs        DARTFORD FOLK CLUB        DARTFORD WORKING MEN'S (CIU) CLUB
40 Essex Road
Dartford, DA1 2AU        Spider John and 'Chip' Taylor Smith

RtS


28 Jun 12 - 06:44 PM (#3369275)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: Big Al Whittle

Do you know who I have to get a ticket from for Topsham?


28 Jun 12 - 07:52 PM (#3369301)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: GUEST,BanjoRay

Debby McClatchy tells me she's guesting with Spider John at the Dartford gig.

Ray


29 Jun 12 - 05:52 AM (#3369466)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: Roger the Skiffler

Sorry, Al, I only know Reading, no contact details on SJ's website.
RtS


29 Jun 12 - 06:26 AM (#3369471)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: Big Al Whittle

Apparently Julian Piper is organising the Topsham gig. You can buy tickets from the bookshop in Topsham - telephone 01392 877895


29 Jun 12 - 07:40 AM (#3369495)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: greg stephens

I would urge anyone to go to one of these. John is a historic character and still going strong. I helped organised a sel;lout gig for him last years and it went down great. Alas I am too busy at the relevant time to do it again this year but very glad to se there are plenty of dates lined up. Go and listen and enjoy!


29 Jun 12 - 08:54 AM (#3369519)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: Charley Noble

Greg-

I've admired Spider John's blues playing for decades. He really has become one with his mentors. Maybe that's what you mean when you say:

"John is a historic character and still going strong."

I suppose he's no longer in his 20s!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


15 Jul 12 - 10:26 AM (#3376497)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: Big Al Whittle

I've got a ticket for tonite in Topsham, any other catters going?


15 Jul 12 - 10:28 AM (#3376499)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: Big Al Whittle

Not seen him for forty five years....

Forty five years.....sounds like kenneth Williams!


16 Jul 12 - 08:39 AM (#3376972)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: Big Al Whittle

Amazing evening!

Youknow when I was 17, I used to play air guitar to Southbound Train, and My Little Woman. i worshipped this guy. He seemed like a young God. When I got to see him at Cousins - he seemed quite chunky compared to last night. Last night, he looked a bit jovial version of the Headmaster in Bash Street Kids - almost skeletal. We had both grown into okd guys.

Deadpan delivery of jokes - or maybe he was bored with his own stories. Gentle humour - rather than uproariously funny. Still he was appreciated.

The music was interesting. Not really the slick gunslinger of guitar any more - Spider John somewhere along the way has become a great traditional style interpreter of folksong. if you love tradtional music - you will love Spider John.

he plays a 12 string tyhese days - a battered old epiphone with its full complement of strings. He hits the strings in such a skillful fashion that the modest sized belly of the guitar sounds as big as a rain barrel - the tone is mighty. He plays few chords these days, his tyle (although) in standard tuning is reminiscent of Martin carthy's. he plays a lto melody lines - wth that powerful magisterial sound. he plays a little ragtime picking also.

The songs are from the great American folksong book. Careless love is delivered as folksong - not a blues. We get the Cuckoo, a little Woody Guthrie, something from Blues rags and Holler - Good Time Charlie - but no Creepy John ( song surely composed in the wake of the Boston Strangler slayings). For the rest its quite brilliant traditional fare. He is accompanied on fiddle and bones by Chip Smith.

The support was by dave Peabdy and Stuart Piper. Stuart could make his guiar sound (which was apity as he is obviously a great slide player). Dave is of course a legend in his own right. what a man!


16 Jul 12 - 08:42 AM (#3376973)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: Big Al Whittle

Soryr the typos and omissions. i was in a rush!


16 Jul 12 - 10:23 AM (#3377014)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: Mick Tems

LOVED Rent Party Rag! SJK, you are the best!


16 Jul 12 - 11:14 AM (#3377037)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: Big Al Whittle

(Edited version)


Amazing evening!

Youknow when I was 17, I used to play air guitar to Southbound Train, and My Little Woman. I worshipped this guy. He seemed like a young God. When I got to see him at Cousins - he seemed quite chunky compared to last night. Last night, he looked a bit jovial version of the Headmaster in Bash Street Kids - almost skeletal. We had both grown into being old guys in the intervening years.

Deadpan delivery of jokes - or maybe he was bored with his own stories. Gentle humour - rather than uproariously funny. Still he was appreciated.

The music was interesting. Not really the slick gunslinger of guitar any more - Spider John, somewhere along the way, has become a great traditional style interpreter of folksong. If you love tradtional music - you will love Spider John.

SJK plays a 12 string these days - a battered old Epiphone with its full complement of strings. He hits the strings in such a skillful fashion that the modest sized belly of the guitar sounds as big as an empty rain barrel - the tone is mighty. He plays few chords these days. His guitar style (although in standard tuning) is reminiscent of Martin Carthy's. He plays a lots of melody lines - with that powerful magisterial sound. He plays a little ragtime picking also.

The songs are from the great American folksong book. Careless Love is delivered as folksong - not a blues. We get the Cuckoo, a little Woody Guthrie, something from Blues, Rags and Hollers - Good Time Charlie, Running Jumping Standing Still - but no Creepy John (a song surely composed in the wake of the Boston Strangler slayings - and to my mind, at the time pointing to a way of folksong advancing into the 20th century). For the rest its quite brilliant traditional fare. He is accompanied on fiddle and bones by Chip Smith.

The support was by Dave Peabody and Stuart Piper. Stuart could not make his guiar sound through the PA (which was apity as he is obviously a great slide player). Dave is of course a legend in his own right. What a man!


16 Jul 12 - 11:16 AM (#3377040)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: Big Al Whittle

Thought I was SO careful!


Amazing evening at The Globe, Topsham!

You know when I was 17, I used to play air guitar to Southbound Train, and My Little Woman. I worshipped this guy. He seemed like a young God. When I got to see him at Cousins - he seemed quite chunky compared to last night. Last night, he looked a bit jovial version of the Headmaster in Bash Street Kids - almost skeletal. We had both grown into being old guys in the intervening years.

Deadpan delivery of jokes - or maybe he was bored with his own stories. Gentle humour - rather than uproariously funny. Still he was appreciated.

The music was interesting. Not really the slick gunslinger of guitar any more - Spider John, somewhere along the way, has become a great traditional style interpreter of folksong. If you love tradtional music - you will love Spider John.

SJK plays a 12 string these days - a battered old Epiphone with its full complement of strings. He hits the strings in such a skillful fashion that the modest sized belly of the guitar sounds as big as an empty rain barrel - the tone is mighty. He plays few chords these days. His guitar style (although in standard tuning) is reminiscent of Martin Carthy's. He plays a lots of melody lines - with that powerful magisterial sound. He plays a little ragtime picking also.

The songs are from the great American folksong book. Careless Love is delivered as folksong - not a blues. We get the Cuckoo, a little Woody Guthrie, something from Blues, Rags and Hollers - Good Time Charlie, Running Jumping Standing Still - but no Creepy John (a song surely composed in the wake of the Boston Strangler slayings - and to my mind, at the time pointing to a way of folksong advancing into the 20th century). For the rest its quite brilliant traditional fare. He is accompanied on fiddle and bones by Chip Smith.

The support was by Dave Peabody and Stuart Piper. Stuart could not make his guitar sound through the PA (which was a pity as he is obviously a great slide player). Dave is of course a legend in his own right. What a man!


16 Jul 12 - 11:24 AM (#3377048)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: GUEST,Phil B

Deeply regret not making it back home in time for this!


16 Jul 12 - 11:29 AM (#3377051)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: GUEST

He's at Saint Bonadventures in Bristol tonight, also with Dave Peabody.


17 Jul 12 - 06:46 AM (#3377557)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: Roger the Skiffler

...and on Thursday in Reading, also with Dave. Thanks for review, Al, I can't wait!

RtS


17 Jul 12 - 08:07 AM (#3377608)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: Tug the Cox

Al..is that Julian rather than Stuart Piper?


17 Jul 12 - 08:37 AM (#3377622)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: Big Al Whittle

Yes of course ....sorrry!


23 Jul 12 - 06:23 AM (#3380262)
Subject: RE: Spider John in UK
From: reynard

The Dartford Gig is tomorrow, Tuesday 24 July and not Thursday as reported above. See you there.

DARTFORD FOLK CLUB       DARTFORD WORKING MEN'S (CIU) CLUB
40 Essex Road
Dartford, DA1 2AU       Spider John and 'Chip' Taylor Smith