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BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles

15 Apr 12 - 07:01 AM (#3338571)
Subject: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: Mr Red

I figure it out - why I like wearing red lensed specs.
Apart from any implied pose value (as if!)

Whilst sitting in the glorious UK sunshine resting my eyes - all I could see was red eyelids. About the same shade as my current prescription. (distance that is)

Not only am I cool (discuss) - but I feel restful wearing them.

As an engineer it is nice to have a positive function - though I have to say the colour does improve the discrimination with close shades of similar colours - something B&W photographers know well when photoing clouds. Red filters. In daylight fog it can show detail of (say) 200 yards rather than 100 - depending in density.

Anyway - I thought I would share this revelation with you all. The prescription specs can be seen (just about) on cresby.com


15 Apr 12 - 12:27 PM (#3338672)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: Bill D

Well... I have cheap pair of plastic ones in that 'yellow-orange' tint... they ease driving when a full strength regular pair of dark ones is not needed.


15 Apr 12 - 03:43 PM (#3338760)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: GUEST,999

"the ergonomics of red spectacles"

I'm still trying to understand Reaganomics.


15 Apr 12 - 03:59 PM (#3338764)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: GUEST,Eliza

I may be wrong, but I believe that red-tinted plastic sheets are sometimes used to cover text for dyslexic people, as it helps them to properly 'see' and perceive the words. As the diagnosis of dyslexia was in its infancy while I was teaching, I must be forgiven for not knowing any more than that!


15 Apr 12 - 04:04 PM (#3338767)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: GUEST,999

Indeed, Eliza. And the research is still continuing.

http://www.dyslexic.com/vision


15 Apr 12 - 04:12 PM (#3338772)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: GUEST,Eliza

That's very interesting 999. (It shows I'm not as senile as I thought!) Also, I didn't realise that each person needs to select the colour best suited to their condition. I've always found dyslexic pupils (insofar as they were diagnosed in my day) to be extremely intelligent, so it makes sense that the condition is a physical, visual one rather than an IQ problem. Now, Mr Red, have you ever experienced problems with reading text? Maybe that's why these shades are so welcome to you. (And I'm sure you look devastatingly sexy and gorgeous in them too!)


15 Apr 12 - 04:29 PM (#3338784)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: Bee-dubya-ell

999, "ergonomics" is derived from the the famous statement by Rene Descartes, "Cogito ergo sum" ("I think, therefore I am"). It is the science of making seemingly profound philosophical pronouncements while under the influence of mind-altering substances.

Red spectacles are ergonomic for two reasons:

1) Wearing them simulates being under the influence of a mind-altering substance by making the outer world appear all pinky.

2) One would probably need to be under the influence of a mind-altering substance to wear red spectacles in the first place.

Red spectacles also lend a certain gravitas to any philosophical pronouncements made while wearing them. The general perception is that a person wearing red spectacles doesn't quite have all his oars in the water, and failure to pay due attention to whatever he's spouting could result in bodily harm to the listener.


15 Apr 12 - 05:20 PM (#3338798)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: Bill D

Wow, B-dub! I learn SO many new things here! And all that time reading Descartes in school, I still missed that! Perhaps I needed more 'mind-altering' chemicals beyond 3.2% beer.


15 Apr 12 - 06:42 PM (#3338824)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: GUEST,999

Thanks for the info, B-dub.

Bill, the reason you didn't recall Descartes saying that is you weren't using the correctly tinted spectacles. The 'I think so do your gazintas' thing packages that up rather adroitly.


15 Apr 12 - 06:54 PM (#3338832)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: gnu

Frank.


16 Apr 12 - 05:48 PM (#3339232)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: Dave the Gnome

Surely if Descartes was wearing red tinted specs he would have changed it to 'I'm pink therefore I'm spam'.

DtG
(And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart:
"I drink, therefore I am.")


16 Apr 12 - 06:15 PM (#3339245)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: Bill D

"Hegel was just as sloshed as Schlegel"

Bruce.. I gave up on my 'gazintas' when they asked me how many times ∞ ganzinta minus whatchamacallet.


16 Apr 12 - 06:18 PM (#3339247)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: Bat Goddess

Bill, yellow, amber, and brown tints increase contrast. The lighter tints help vision on an overcast day when dark glasses would be too much. I find a yellow tint helps me more when I'm driving at night (or in the rain) than an anti-reflective coating.

Tom uses yellow goggles inside to cut the glare caused by his type of blindness. (But the orange ones that protect the eyes from a laser are even better.)

Linn


16 Apr 12 - 07:36 PM (#3339280)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: GUEST,999

Bill: the answer is Boston.


16 Apr 12 - 07:50 PM (#3339290)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: Bill D

Boston? Not Skencktady ummm Schenecktedy...uhhh.. Tulsa?

Linn... yes... I see how it's important to get the right ones. Fortunately, I have few problems and don't drive long distances regularly.


17 Apr 12 - 07:07 AM (#3339461)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: GUEST,Eliza

I've never heard of a gazinter, but I do know what a gazunder is! (A chamber pot, such as the one used by my parents when I was a girl.)


17 Apr 12 - 07:23 AM (#3339466)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: John MacKenzie

They didn't do Mike Harding any harm.
Look where he is now!


17 Apr 12 - 07:24 AM (#3339468)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: GUEST,999

Gazinta: 5 gazinta 30 six times.

Did you do your gazintas? (Did you do your math homework?)


17 Apr 12 - 07:41 AM (#3339479)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: John MacKenzie

How many times a man gazinta a pub?


17 Apr 12 - 12:24 PM (#3339567)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: Jeri

Only once unless he gazowta the pub.


17 Apr 12 - 01:25 PM (#3339589)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: John MacKenzie

Hey Jeri, keep your logic out of this conversation!
Logic just spoils things ya knows.


17 Apr 12 - 03:26 PM (#3339647)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: GUEST,Eliza

Over here, it's 'maths' not 'math'. Perhaps you only do one? :)


17 Apr 12 - 04:31 PM (#3339681)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: Jack the Sailor

"999, "ergonomics" is derived from the the famous statement by Rene Descartes, "Cogito ergo sum" ("I think, therefore I am"). It is the science of making seemingly profound philosophical pronouncements while under the influence of mind-altering substances."

I prefer my philosophy A la Descartes.


17 Apr 12 - 06:23 PM (#3339732)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: Bert

Eliza ..Over here, it's 'maths' not 'math'... When I was in school it was "sums".


17 Apr 12 - 07:23 PM (#3339754)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: Bill D

"Over here, it's 'maths' not 'math'"

Math is short for mathematics, which is not a plural but the name of a discipline of study. It is like 'arithmetic', which refers to to simpler stuff.... and I don't 'think' anyone says arithmetics.


17 Apr 12 - 10:48 PM (#3339819)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: GUEST,999

Good one, Jack.

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Regarding math and maths: Math is what we're talking about now, whether it be gazintas or calculus. However, when it becomes gazintas, calculus AND trigonometry, it (they) becomes maths.


18 Apr 12 - 06:22 AM (#3339909)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: John MacKenzie

So mathematics is a single discipline then Bill?


18 Apr 12 - 04:27 PM (#3340065)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: JohnInKansas

An article in the most recent (March-April) issue of American Scientist includes an article on "why different people see different things." I haven't digested the article as yet, but one of the illustrations shows an experimental setup in which the test subject sees one view with one eye through a blue filter and a different view with the other eye through a red filter. A caption suggests that a red filter reduces the "eye dominance" effect if it's the subdominant eye that's looking through the red, but has little effect if it's the dominant eye looking at the red view.

This might suggest that a red lens on both eyes would reduce the "dominance" of the stronger eye, but whether that would aid or aggravate the situation for dyslexics (or for anyone else) is sort of an open quetion that the article probably doesn't explore.

It appears that the article as a whole does support the notion that "red spectacles" could make you think differently since you do quite literally "see different things" to think about.

?????

John


24 Apr 12 - 09:28 AM (#3342516)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: Mr Red

well, thanx for all the erudition and the laughs.

No I am not dyslexic, And as for handsome - I am not the person to judge that - ask my girlfriends..................

The survey of 1 (person) is conclusive - I feel more restful wearing them, but as they are prescription I see better anyway. About 2.5 diopter with slight variation eye to eye and minor astigamtism. Compared to a clear prescription they are still more restful. Certainly I don't have to squint as often especially in sunlight.

Wait till you see my latest hat at a festival near you!


24 Apr 12 - 09:31 AM (#3342517)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: Mr Yellow

Yelowphiles prefer - er um yellow tinted specs.


24 Apr 12 - 12:27 PM (#3342607)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: GUEST,999

And Red Green sees everything in 3D.


24 Apr 12 - 12:55 PM (#3342617)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: John MacKenzie

Red Yellow Green. Traffic lights


24 Apr 12 - 02:00 PM (#3342662)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: Jack Campin

The appeal of redness is over-rated.


24 Apr 12 - 02:01 PM (#3342663)
Subject: RE: BS: the ergonomics of red spectacles
From: GUEST,999

In Quebec we're moving to dark brown, tan and white for the new traffic lights.