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Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info

21 Apr 12 - 05:19 AM (#3341183)
Subject: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: GUEST,Carole Bannister

I read a book called RED SHIFT by Alan Garner. Its a retelling of the old Tam lyn legend. Any info about the location would be fab.


21 Apr 12 - 06:32 AM (#3341204)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: Ian Hendrie

Try http://www.mowcop.info/


There may be some relevant songs in this book by Roy Clinging :
http://anneloaderpublications.co.uk/index/90125349/index.htm


21 Apr 12 - 08:28 AM (#3341242)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: GUEST,Carole Bannister

Just ordered the bok recommended, thanks for that!


21 Apr 12 - 10:57 AM (#3341305)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: Ian Hendrie

If you click on the Music button on the following link : http://www.mowcop.info/index.htm you get to the song 'The Old Man of Mow' by Trevor Caswell.


Northwest of Scholar Green lies Mow Cop
Miles away from my Nicola town
and if you are patient when you look around
you'll find the Old Man of Mow

High on a hill overlooking the quarry grounds
you'll have to climb up if you want to find out
There is a way, but no one can tell you how
to find the Old Man of Mow

My mama she gave a book when I was just a boy
the turning of pages has so much to tell
There's stories that stay with us all as we travel on
just be sure to remember the words of the well

Whatever tomorrow might bring doesn't matter much
the sun or the rain makes no difference at all
If the angle is right and you get your mind around
you'll find the Old Man of Mow

The signs they don't always point where you want to go
The answers you want may not be what you find
but don't let the brick works grab you and weigh you down
afterall you are wonderfully one of a kind

Looking around for the Old Man of Mow


21 Apr 12 - 11:40 AM (#3341323)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: GUEST,Carole Bannister

Thanks for the song lyrics.


21 Apr 12 - 11:45 AM (#3341328)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: Les in Chorlton

The 'Home' of Primitive Methodism?

L in C#


21 Apr 12 - 11:50 AM (#3341331)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: Will Fly

If you want a brief psychedelic video ramble round Mow Cop with some silly fiddle music, see here...


21 Apr 12 - 03:25 PM (#3341393)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: Paul Burke

Does 'one man went to Mow' count?

But anyway what's a 'Nicola' town?


21 Apr 12 - 04:31 PM (#3341419)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: GUEST,Ed

what's a 'Nicola' town?

Nicola is a town in British Columbia, Canada.


22 Apr 12 - 04:41 AM (#3341557)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: Ian Hendrie

And Trever Caswell, who wrote the aforementioned song, is a Canadian folk singer. It all fits!


22 Apr 12 - 05:19 AM (#3341561)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: greg stephens

Elvis Presley, during the period he worked in a chip shop in Macclesfield after his so-called "death", was often to be seen at Mow Cop enjoying the view over the Cheshire plain.


22 Apr 12 - 05:31 AM (#3341564)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: John J

I understand he now works in the Tesco in Macc - on the night shift, stacking shelves.

JJ


22 Apr 12 - 09:13 AM (#3341632)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: Mr Happy

They call him 'Shelvis'!


22 Apr 12 - 12:25 PM (#3341719)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: GUEST,Howard Jones

There's any number of places north west of Scholar Green (possibly including Nicola BC by a great circle route), but Mow Cop isn't one of them - it's pretty much due east.


22 Apr 12 - 03:25 PM (#3341791)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: TopcatBanjo

You might be interested to see this recent video by Tim Eriksen and Cath & Phil Tyler, filmed on Mow Cop and including some historical info in the notes.

Tim Eriksen, Cath & Phil Tyler singing on Mow Cop


22 Apr 12 - 06:36 PM (#3341882)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: Paul Burke

Anyway guest Carole: why is the book called Red Shift, when any fule kno that Janet wore a kirtle green?


23 Apr 12 - 09:29 AM (#3342067)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: Ian Hendrie

More information about Red Shift can be found here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Shift_%28novel%29

All seems very strange!


23 Apr 12 - 05:58 PM (#3342292)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: Carole Bannister

Love it! Have you read the book? If so, any bits you really liked?


26 Apr 12 - 05:45 PM (#3343727)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: Carole Bannister

Well, in "Red Shift" Jan does wear a green coat in one part, the title itself alludes to the characture, Tom, who is autistic. Another characture, Macey, is affected by blue red and silver, i could go on...
great book, read it.


26 Apr 12 - 08:08 PM (#3343792)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: GUEST,henryp

Some Curiosities of Mow Cop and near-by;
The Old Man o' Mow
The Castle - Summer House
The View of Seven Counties
The Quarries and Coalmines
The Tramway and Tunnel
The Macclesfield Canal
The Velvet Mills
The Rode Hall-Moreton Hall Border
The Cheshire-Staffordshire Border
The Canterbury-York Ecclesiastical Sees Border
Little Moreton Hall
Biddulph Grange
The Apedale Heritage Centre
The Railway and Mow Cop Station
The Springs and Wells - Squire's Well, Parson's Well & Woodcocks Well
The Mow Cop Chapel Museum
Hannah Dale - Child of Wonder
The Pikelet and Oatcake Man from Macclesfield
The Killer Mile
The Heritage Trail
The Mow Cop Trail
The Gritstone Trail
The South Cheshire Way
The Staffordshire Way
Primitive Methodism


27 Apr 12 - 04:55 AM (#3343890)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: GUEST,Ray

I bought a first edition of "Red Shift" (entirely by accident) years ago but I've never actually read it. The picture on the dust jacket is a silhouette of the folly on the top of Mow Cop.

And for those of you who are pronouncing "Mow" as they would when they mow the lawn, Mow should rhyme with "cow".


27 Apr 12 - 05:28 AM (#3343905)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: glueman

George Longstaff cycles have the Mow Cop folly as the head badge on their bikes.