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11 Jun 12 - 06:38 PM (#3362259) Subject: if i spoke with tongues of men From: ollaimh does any ome have the complete lyric for the song sung and composed for the servie for the victums of the locherbie bombing that starts "if i spoke with tongues of men or spoke with tongues of angels if i did not speak with love i'd just be cymbols clanging everyoner would hold their ears ...... ...... ....... if i spoke in phrophesy the fate of many nations if i knew all the mysteries the secerts of creation if i had all the faith i need enough for mountains moving but had no love to carry me what good would it do me love is kind it suffers all it isn't proud or jealous love will not remember wrongs and love will never fail us it hopes and dream etc........ i need to fill this out, i can't find my version and i was going to sing it to some christians |
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11 Jun 12 - 07:50 PM (#3362289) Subject: RE: if i spoke with tongues of men From: GUEST,999 ollaimh, do you recall the song title? I'm comin' up empty. ######################### 1 Corinthians 13 American Standard Version (ASV) 13 If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am become sounding brass, or a clanging cymbal. 2 And if I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. |
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12 Jun 12 - 11:33 AM (#3362522) Subject: RE: if i spoke with tongues of men From: maeve ollaimh, I know it...give me a little time. Maeve |
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12 Jun 12 - 12:09 PM (#3362547) Subject: RE: if i spoke with tongues of men From: maeve "St. Paul's Song" by Pierce Pettis, isn't it? I thought I remembered hearing it sung by Peta Webb and Ken Hall, but I can't find that version online. |
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12 Jun 12 - 12:17 PM (#3362550) Subject: RE: if i spoke with tongues of men From: maeve Does this sound like the song for which you're looking? St. Paul's Song, excerpt If you can find a recorded version from Peta Webb and Ken Hall, it will be a good one. |
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12 Jun 12 - 12:36 PM (#3362555) Subject: RE: if i spoke with tongues of men From: John MacKenzie That goes on till it reaches the Mudcat motto doesn't it. "When I became a man, I put away childish things" |
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12 Jun 12 - 12:39 PM (#3362559) Subject: RE: if i spoke with tongues of men From: GUEST,999 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7bchcnG7CQ With deepest respect to Maeve, this version is easier to understand. |
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12 Jun 12 - 12:45 PM (#3362561) Subject: RE: if i spoke with tongues of men From: maeve Yes, that version is easier to understand, friend-of-mine. The personal flourishes. however. seem to me to lose the tune. As soon as we know if this is indeed the song ollaimh needs I'd be glad to help transcribe it. It's so frustrating; I had written out the whole thing directly from Peta's singing, and that paper has gone to ashes with the rest of my library. I used to sing it, and that's gone too, leaving little echoes in my memory. |
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12 Jun 12 - 12:47 PM (#3362564) Subject: RE: if i spoke with tongues of men From: GUEST,999 Yeah. Thing is with a loss like that, things will pop into your memory for a long time. But on the bright side, you both are here today, and I'd rather have you than a song, by anyone. |
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12 Jun 12 - 12:50 PM (#3362567) Subject: RE: if i spoke with tongues of men From: maeve Thanks, TrebleNine. Ollaimh- Here are the lyrics: St. Paul's Song ( 1 Corinthians 13) - Pierce Pettis If I spoke in tongues of men And spoke in tongues of angels If I could not speak with love I'd just be cymbals clanging Everyone would hold their ears They wouldn't know how to take it And not a soul would want to hear A racket so outrageous. If I spoke in Prophecy The fate of men and nations If I knew the mysteries And the secrets of creation And had all the faith I need Enough for mountains moving Without love to carry me Oh, what good would it do me. Love is kind. it suffers long It's never proud of jealous Love will never do you wrong Love will never fail us It hopes believes and bares all things It'll never be defeated More than faith More than hope Love is the greatest Knowlege, prophecy will fade And tongues will all fall silent But love that lives is here to stay Solid and defiant Though it's hard to see these things As through a dark glass straining When we're standing face to face The truth won't need explaining Words and Music by Pierce Pettis © 1984 Let-Have-Lunch Music (ASCAP) http://www.marcogiunco.com/Testi/001843_04.htm |
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12 Jun 12 - 12:58 PM (#3362572) Subject: RE: if i spoke with tongues of men From: maeve I remember it more like this: (doesn't mean it's correct, of course!)I've also corrected a couple of typos I missed seeing in the first version I posted. ****************************** St. Paul's Song ( 1 Corinthians 13)Pierce Pettis (version remembered as being sung by Peta Webb) If I spoke with tongues of men And spoke with tongues of angels If I could not speak with love I'd just be cymbals clanging Everyone would hold their ears They wouldn't want to hear it And not a soul would want to hear A racket so outrageous. If I spoke in Prophecy The fate of men and nations If I knew the mysteries And the secrets of creation And had all the faith I need Enough for mountains moving Without love to carry me What good would it do me? Love is kind. It suffers long It's never proud or jealous Love will never do you wrong Love will never fail us It hopes, believes and bears all things It'll never be defeated More than faith More than hope Love, it is the greatest Knowledge, prophecy will fade And tongues will all fall silent But love that lives is here to stay Solid and defiant Though it's hard to see these things As through a dark glass straining When we're standing face to face The truth won't need explaining ********************* |
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12 Jun 12 - 01:22 PM (#3362580) Subject: RE: if i spoke with tongues of men From: maeve Of course, it was Heather Heywood I heard it from, and she later recorded it on her album: By Yon Castle Wa' Heather Heywood http://music.yahoo.com/heather-heywood/ Rusty brain from all the water that put out the fire. Peta and Ken are also wonderful, and worth a listen. |
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12 Jun 12 - 04:18 PM (#3362638) Subject: RE: if i spoke with tongues of men From: CupOfTea I spent considerable time searching for a version of St. Paul's song so I could learn it for my Faith & Folk Music program. It's something that had crossed my path several times without much impact. Somewhere, I have the Pierce Pettis cassette with it, but couldn't find it. I've a version recorded by Magpie, but their tempo was so excruciatingly slow and grandiose that it never registered as something I needed to learn either, though I love some of their other songs. It wasn't until I heard Caroline Paton sing it to me in a crowded room at the Getaway, the year Sandy died, talking about singing it for memorial services that it hit me what a wonderful setting this was. I tried to find sheet music for it - perfectly willing to pay for it, but Pierce Petis' website doesn't seem to have that as an option. It wasn't showing up anywhere else online as anything other than the lyrics or a couple YouTube videos. I watched Ms. Devine's YouTube of it (999's link above) about 75 times to get it down, and figure out chord changes (I'm not very experienced at getting a song down this way) and worked it out in the key of C for singing with Autoharp. It's in the top of my repertoire these days. I talked to Caroline about it this spring when I was sorting songs for the project and now that I've got it, I need to record it and send it to her, with thanks. It still surprises me that a few songs I cherish were NOT "love at first go round." Amazing how much context and personal interpretation feed into our reception of information! Joanne in Cleveland |
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12 Jun 12 - 04:53 PM (#3362652) Subject: RE: if i spoke with tongues of men From: maeve Caroline would be just right for this song...or t'other way around, perhaps! Here's a fragment of the song as Heather sings it. Click on the link, then look for "Paul's Song" to click again, then listen... http://music.yahoo.com/heather-heywood/albums/by-yon-castle-wa--7409 |
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12 Jun 12 - 06:24 PM (#3362680) Subject: RE: if i spoke with tongues of men From: Joe_F Brahms also set it to music (one of the Four Serious Songs). |
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17 Jun 12 - 01:55 PM (#3364609) Subject: RE: if i spoke with tongues of men From: maeve Refresh... for ollaimh. |