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15 Jul 12 - 07:59 AM (#3376443) Subject: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: Ann N Coming very soon ...... with Martin Carthy headlining the Friday night concert Whitby Sea Festival :D |
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15 Jul 12 - 10:20 AM (#3376494) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: stallion would love to be there but we are all spread to the four winds Saturday and sunday, Friday night have a prior engagement giving some visiting indian academics a shot of english culture |
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15 Jul 12 - 11:32 AM (#3376520) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: nutty As usual, the publicity for these events is put out so ridiculously late that most people have made other arrangements - |
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15 Jul 12 - 12:46 PM (#3376557) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: Ann N Agree completely about the lack of publicity :) I live in Whitby and didn't know a thing about it until a week ago! Looked on a couple of music websites and found no mention of it so started posting the festival web site address, given in last week's Gazette, on the message boards I visit most. ..... someone might have the weekend free and be able to go :) |
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15 Jul 12 - 02:03 PM (#3376597) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: GUEST,Raggytash Another Whitby resident who only heard about this week, but then again not too surprised at that! |
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15 Jul 12 - 04:44 PM (#3376681) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: stallion my brother in law works for Scarborough Coucil and is/was remotely involved with the set up of the Scarborough Seafest and only found out last Thursday that it had moved from scarborough to whitby when he asked if i would coming to the festival, he had been given the order for the logistics for it! |
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15 Jul 12 - 05:14 PM (#3376696) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: Ann N ..... it's not being organised by G4S by any chance? ..... leave everything until the last minute and hope for the best ...... :D |
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15 Jul 12 - 06:10 PM (#3376724) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: Steve Gardham Please note this is a virus called 'Sea Fever' that is spreading rapidly through any festivals that are connected with the sea. The only known cure is to exterminate all councillors in all places within 30 miles of the coast. |
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15 Jul 12 - 06:39 PM (#3376737) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: gnomad The section 'Song for the Sea' appears to solicit entries for a song contest, while simultaneously announcing this year's winner. Prescient or what? Are you an established or budding songwriter? Whitby Sea Festival invite entries for this years 'song for the sea' competition. In the last few years it has produced fine winners among which are Jim Radfords' Merchant Seaman' and 'Shores of Normandy', Wendy Arrowsmiths 'Sleep Well Till Morning' ,Penni MacLaren Walkers 'Song of The Fisherman' and in 2012 Carmen Mills was the winner. Many local folkies are familiar with the name apparently organising. I haven't made his acquaintance, but have been to some of the earlier versions of this event. |
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15 Jul 12 - 07:32 PM (#3376758) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: GUEST,Blowzabella sans cookie There's a FB group - http://www.facebook.com/groups/127976850607287/ - it was changed to Whitby Sea Festival from (I think) Scarborough SF on 4th June, so presume that was when the decision was made to move locations. Suspect that it's having to be run on a shoe string and there's little budget for marketing. No inside info though, so this is just an opinion |
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16 Jul 12 - 02:41 AM (#3376861) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: Ann N :) publicity gripes aside .... the Guest List looks good and it would be a shame if it didn't get as much support as possible :D |
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16 Jul 12 - 03:57 AM (#3376880) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: stallion No sour gripes, Richard Grainger is a lovely man, great songwriter and tireless performer and promoter of music events local to whitby, as I understand it Scarborough withdrew their funding of the event and rather than lose it Richard hastily rearranged the venues to whitby where he has a tad more influence, if personal circumstances were different 2BS&S would be there but we all have family stuff (it is always on my daughters birthday weekend) Ron is hosting a conference and Martin is away for the weekend. So, I would urge all that can make it to go, as previously stated the line up is pretty good, Scarborough Seafest has always been a good crack for the performers and I can only see the move to whitby as an improvement. |
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16 Jul 12 - 05:09 AM (#3376897) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: doc.tom Yes. It IS Scarborough Seafest moved to Whitby - and very late. You can't get publicity out if you don't know it's happening (Yes, I know Scarborough Seafest promotion tended to be late as well!). When the guest list is dependent on Local Authority funding (because they want a largely 'free'event)and then they withdraw late on there's not much you can do. (I seem to recall Hull got messed up when funding went elsewhere). The Resolution Hotel is sponsoring this year. How do I know? - we're booked - and doing the Short Sharp Shanties talk! I'll endorse AnneN and stallion's comments about supporting the event. See you there? TomB |
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16 Jul 12 - 05:53 AM (#3376903) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: nutty Communication is a wonderful thing Tom - yet the organisers don't seem to appreciate the importance of keeping people informed - of original arrangements not just when they change. Mudcat costs nothing and gives world wide publicity - note how the Staithes, Roxby and Durham festivals have worked hard at keeping people up to date. I would love to be there but unfortunately have made other arrangements for this weekend and I know many other local people who would have been prepared to help in a number of different ways at no cost to the organisers if only they had been asked. No doubt we shall in the future hear, complaints about "the locals not supporting the event" , if that is the case please let people know that the organisers must share a large proportion of the blame. |
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16 Jul 12 - 06:49 AM (#3376930) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: stallion Well, just received a text from brother-in-law saying it is in Scarborough this weekend, he has been asked to set up marquees and stuff, has there been a monumental cock up somewhere? I am going to google Klondike Arts who sponsored the Scarborough Seafest to see if they have any info. |
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16 Jul 12 - 07:02 AM (#3376939) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: stallion http://www.yorkshire.com/view/events/scarborough/scarborough-seafest-15th-17th-july-904996 but the brother-in-law who's job, amongst other things, is Scarborough Council's pyro technician assures me that the firework display and the tents will be going up as usual, he has the fireworks to prove it, which, incidentally, the cost of the fireworks would probablyfifty times what the performers bill would have been. |
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16 Jul 12 - 07:05 AM (#3376940) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: stallion This is what Scarborough Council thinks is happening |
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16 Jul 12 - 07:09 AM (#3376941) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: stallion So they will have a beer tent, cooking displays, craft fair and fireworks but no music, unless some local musicians have been drafted in, whiffs of Hull City councils approach to the Sea music fraternity. |
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16 Jul 12 - 07:10 AM (#3376942) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: GUEST,Guest Will it be possible to see the fireworks from Whitby? At what they appear to be costing one would hope so. |
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16 Jul 12 - 07:19 AM (#3376944) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: stallion from the Abbey on a clear night maybe! |
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16 Jul 12 - 07:19 AM (#3376945) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: theleveller So does this mean there are now 2 Seafests on the same days? And who are the local musicians at the Scarborough one? I was thinknig of popping over but I may not bother now. |
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16 Jul 12 - 07:21 AM (#3376946) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: stallion I am searching google, rest assured the Whitby one will have a good line up and well worth supporting I know nothing of the Scarborough line up if indeed they have anyone to perform. |
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16 Jul 12 - 07:30 AM (#3376950) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: stallion This is the poster, anyone recognise the names |
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16 Jul 12 - 07:45 AM (#3376954) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: stallion Ok the Music for the Scarborough Seafest, taken from the performers myspace sites are as follows Raven - Heavy metal thrash band Ishka - Scarborough based pub/club band Demimondaines - Garage Punk band Seafret - Acoustic easy listening duo (Bridlington) John Watton - Blues/Electro Acoustic/Folk (Scarborough) Really doesn't float my boat and not what I would regard as a sea music festival! |
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16 Jul 12 - 08:02 AM (#3376958) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: Ann N Don't recognise the names on the Scarbro' list but the Whitby line up is well worth a second look :) Have bought a weekend ticket for the Whitby Fest and am looking forward to a great weekend :D |
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16 Jul 12 - 08:12 AM (#3376962) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: Charley Noble Looks like the shifting winds between Scarborough and Whitby are making navigation difficult for sea music lovers and performers. When in doubt just tap the compass on the rail and sheet 'er home! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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16 Jul 12 - 11:47 AM (#3377062) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: GUEST,Banjiman Whitby Seafest line -up Martin Carthy - Bill Adair - Wendy Arrowsmith - Steve Dawes & Helen Pitt - Direction Corsaires Karnos Circus - - Glen Coggin - Martin Curtis - Monkeys Fist Richard Grainger - Robert Hartley - The Sail Pattern - Aroha 2 Aloha Blue Sun - Tom & Barbara Brown - Chris Milner - Robert Hartley - Men of Staithes - Devils Water - Alan Whitbread - Darkley Circus - John Ward - Stormcrow - Malcolm Ward - Jim Radford - Ramshackle Shantymen Scarborough Poets Concerts - Song Sessions - Song Competition - Family Fun - Pirate Party |
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16 Jul 12 - 12:01 PM (#3377073) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: doc.tom Just looked at the Scarborough website - looks like Chris Parkinson might want to have a go for misrepresentation! |
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16 Jul 12 - 06:52 PM (#3377299) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: MoorleyMan This constant to-ing and fro-ing with maritime music events is enough to make anyone seasick. I've only just come across this thread, and only heard mention of it through a chance conversation with an artist performing at another festival last weekend. Thanks to Stallion et al for their detective work. I echo their comments earlier in the thread. It seems to be yet another instance of an event where nobody hears about it happening until the last minute - that is, unless they were one of the select few booked artists "in the know", it would appear (but how did they get to know it was happening, I wonder?). I'd love to have been able to support it and/or be involved, but as usual the abysmally short notice and poor publicity have made it impossible for me to drop other commitments to attend now. Shame; as you all say, it's a good lineup. |
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17 Jul 12 - 05:15 AM (#3377516) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: MoorleyMan I just found some helpful explanation to the background of this event on the separate "Warning: Scarborough Seafest" thread, which part-way answers questions. A curse on these interfering politicians... Good luck to all involved, and I'd hope to be able to support it if it runs again next year. |
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17 Jul 12 - 05:28 AM (#3377524) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: doc.tom Just so you can't say you didn't know - SeaIlfracombe is happenning from August 31st to September 4th 2012. I'll have some programmes at Whitby - or you can visit the website as www.seailfracombe.co.uk (which is mostly up to date although not intuitive - it's not my responsibility!). TomB |
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17 Jul 12 - 07:25 PM (#3377990) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: stallion bump |
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17 Jul 12 - 07:35 PM (#3377998) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: Jack Campin As well as publicity in advance (and there isn't much advanceness left) it's important to get some reportage - since the Whitby lineup is so much better-known than the bunch of MySpace heroes Scarborough has gone for, local media will surely give them more exposure. Which means the council prats responsible for this debacle will have some explaining to do, and with any luck next year might be different. |
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18 Jul 12 - 02:51 AM (#3378131) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: Ann N :) for anyone thinking of getting a ticket but worrying about the lack of time for posting ... Mine was bought online from the Whitby Seafest Ticket page and there was an e-mail in my inbox shortly afterwards giving a ticket reference number and details of when and where to pick it up on Friday ( from 5pm at the Resolution ) |
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24 Jul 12 - 03:16 AM (#3380682) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: Doug Chadwick So, how did it go? Did enough people turn up to make it a success? And what of the alternative at Scarborough? Were there lots of people expecting shanties and asking for their money back? DC |
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24 Jul 12 - 09:38 AM (#3380807) Subject: RE: Whitby Sea Festival (UK ) 20-22 July From: GUEST,alanww Well, Whitby SeaFest did actually happen and I enjoyed the contribution I made! As has been said, it was all arranged at the last minute when the Scarborough SeaFest fell through. That meant that there was not enough advanced publicity to attract big crowds. But just making it happen was quite a feat! So well done Richard Grainger! There were enough punters to make it viable (just) and I know that Richard hopes to be able to run it again next year. All the best. "Sing goodbye to Sally and goodbye to Sue!" Alan |