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15 Jul 12 - 07:58 PM (#3376766) Subject: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: pdq "Romney took a leave of absence from Bain Capital in February 1999 to serve as the President and CEO of the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympic Games Organizing Committee. By that time, Bain Capital was on its way to being one of the top private equity firms in the nation, having increased its number of partners from 5 to 18, with 115 employees overall, and $4 billion under its management. Bain Capital's approach of applying consulting expertise to the companies it invested in became widely copied within the private equity industry. Economist Steven Kaplan would later say, "[Romney] came up with a model that was very successful and very innovative and that now everybody uses. In August 2001, Romney announced that he would not return to Bain Capital. His separation from the firm was finalized in 2002; he transferred his ownership to other partners and negotiated an agreement that allowed him to receive a passive profit share as a retired partner in some Bain Capital entities, including buyout and investment funds. Because the private equity business continued to thrive, this deal brought him millions of dollars in annual income. As a result of his business career, by 2007, Romney and his wife had a net worth of between $190 and $250 million, most of it held in blind trusts since 2003. In 2012, it was estimated that he had amassed twice the net worth of the last eight presidents combined, and would rank among the four richest in American history if elected. An additional blind trust existed in the name of the Romneys' children and grandchildren that was valued at between $70 and $100 million as of 2007. The couple's net worth remained in the same range as of 2011, and was still held in blind trusts. In 2010, Romney and his wife received $21.7 million in income, almost all of it from investments, of which about $3 million went to federal income taxes (a rate of 13.9 percent, based upon the beneficial rate accorded investment income by the U.S. tax code) and almost $3 million to charity, including $1.5 million to the LDS Church. Romney has always tithed to the church, including stock from Bain Capital holdings. In 2010, the Romney family's Tyler Charitable Foundation gave out about $650,000, with some of it going to organizations that fight specific diseases such as cystic fibrosis and multiple sclerosis." |
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15 Jul 12 - 08:10 PM (#3376771) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: GUEST,999 Hard to argue with the facts. He gave from the heart until his accountant said stop. |
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15 Jul 12 - 08:25 PM (#3376775) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: GUEST,999 Just figured out he's all heart. He gives .002826% of his cash to charities. Of his yearly take-home income (20,000,000 bucks) he gives .0325% of his cash. Well, he's being the best he can be. |
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15 Jul 12 - 08:28 PM (#3376777) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Bobert Fine, pdq... Romney releases his 2000 and 2001 tax returns and that should prove it... His father was all about transparency... B~ |
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15 Jul 12 - 08:42 PM (#3376783) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: pdq Joe Biden's donations to charity have averaged $369 dollars per year over the last 10 years. Romney has more to give because he got off his ass and earned more. For 2010, Romney gave $3 million to the Fedreal government in income tax. Also gave 41.5 million to his church and $650,000 to a charity he started to cure childhood diseases. Those number do not include many other forms of tax including hidden ones. Romney is considerd one of the finest executives is the country by his piers. |
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15 Jul 12 - 08:45 PM (#3376784) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor Thank you for not posting the source of that propaganda pdq. It saves me the trouble of debunking it. It may be that he is a fine man. But he has been caught in a whopper of a lie that his people are spinning like an Iranian centrifuge controlled by the stuxnet virus. Romney may be a good man. Romney is a bad liar. I'm not saying that we can't have a liar for President. But the independents are not going to vote for a bad one. They aren't going to vote for a liar who panics Face it. You Republicans should have should have picked Donald Trump. He can tell you that the Sahara is made of snow and when you show him the sand he would ask to see your Birth Certificate. |
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15 Jul 12 - 08:48 PM (#3376785) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor I am sorry you can't defend him for not showing twelve years like his dad did and give him credit for what he didn't show. "Those number do not include many other forms of tax including hidden ones." The obvious conclusion is that ones he hasn't presented are not a favorable to him. Otherwise he would have shown them. |
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15 Jul 12 - 08:50 PM (#3376786) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Bobert Yeah, if Romney wants to get the heat off him all he has to do is tell the truth??? What a novel concept... If, after he has done that and proved to be a "fine man" then, and only then, can he ask for an apology from Obama... Right now he ain't looking like a fine man... B~ |
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15 Jul 12 - 08:51 PM (#3376787) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: pdq JtS... You have started dozens of poisonous threads sliming Romney. Every day you grab the daily talking points and run with them. Too bad Mudcat is so completelly devoid of moderation. |
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15 Jul 12 - 09:14 PM (#3376798) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Bobert What do you think Saws does, pdq??? I believe in moderators but not censors... I don't want Sawz censored even tho he a a complete jerk... It's called free speech and as long as folks ain't threatening to kill one another then let it be... B~ |
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15 Jul 12 - 10:31 PM (#3376821) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor If it was moderated for truthfulness you'd be banned for this alone. >>JtS... You have started dozens of poisonous threads sliming Romney. Every day you grab the daily talking points and run with them. Too bad Mudcat is so completelly devoid of moderation. <<< Dozens? Didn't your mommy tell you a million times not to exaggerate? Every day? Run with them? Poisonous? Since when is posting his own words and commenting on them "sliming" him? and isn't he slim enough for you already. Not as slim as President Obama, but if Rush Limbaugh yelled "Hey Slim" at a GOP party, Romney would be one of the first to turn around. Did you go to the same school of bad lying as your hero, the "fine man?" You have an excuse though, you may not know you are lying. Romney was an experienced executive with an MBA from Harvard. He knew the meaning of the sworn statements and business forms he was signing. He tells us now he had no involvement at all in Bain Capital in the time in question. When he needed to prove his residency to run for Governor he said that he flew in for board meetings. He attended enough meetings to "prove" his residency did he not? How can both things be true? How can they be true only when convenient to him? The right answers to those questions will help us determine just how fine a man he is. |
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15 Jul 12 - 10:36 PM (#3376823) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Joe Offer What would you think would be appropriate moderation, pdq? I kinda think it's best to let the political debate run its course, lies and all...despite the fact that I think the lies all come from the conservatives. But I do this the thread title is true - Romney does seem to be a decent sort of fellow. So was McCain. -Joe- |
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15 Jul 12 - 10:49 PM (#3376826) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: pdq Democrat Talking Points...the favorite faire of small minds (oh, and big mouths). The United States is $17 trillion in debit, the real unemployment is twice the bogus government figures and the entire world is laughing at us because the great power is now impotent. This weeks talking points are about the company Romney founded, then left for his assistants to manage while he ran the Olympics. The only people who give a rat's ass about these talking points are people who want Romney destroyed or people who don't have enough brains to see propaganda for what it is. The worst most people would have said about Romney in the past is that he is a "goodie two-shoes" or that he is "squeaky clean", meant (for some reason) as condescending. |
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15 Jul 12 - 11:23 PM (#3376833) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor Lots of people give a rat's ass. They are called undecided voters. Pdq the jobs and the economy are exactly this week's talking points. The talking points have been an effort to get the fine man to credibly say what he will do better. Romney says he will do better but he won't say what he would do. President Obama has been saying for three years, if the GOP has better ideas, lets hear them. Lets do them. The GOP keeps coming back with rehashed W. tax breaks and deregulation, that aside from the housing/credit bubble, did nothing to create jobs. Romney says, I know how to create jobs. He claims he created 100,000 jobs at Bain. But he counts all of jobs that were created by companies he gave seed money to, (Staples for example) most of which were created not only since he left "managerial responsibility" at Bain but also since Bain sold their interest in the company. But reasonable people look at those claims and say what else has Bain done? Oh yeah outsourced and bragged about it. But Romney says, don't blame me. I wasn't there when that happened. Show just what is Romney's track record for job creation? His governorship? 47th in the US in a state with many economic advantages. That can't be it? So what is he going to do to create jobs? Oh yeah, double down on Bush policies that depended on a credit bubble. But he can't create a credit bubble because interest rates are near zero. Obama, has been very very smart as a President. If there were two or more choices and one was invented by Republicans, He chose the GOP approach. He has implemented all the workable GOP economic ideas, including Romney's health care plan. He has even sent more troops to a failing George W Bush, war effort. The GOP has nothing to campaign on except the economy that their own suggestions are a major part of and insane suggestions that "The President of the USA is a secret Muslim communist infiltrator." That works with the GOP Base. It won't work on the middle. |
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16 Jul 12 - 12:17 AM (#3376842) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: katlaughing It'd be a lot easier to do a good job of moderating, not censoring, if we had ONE thread only for each candidate. |
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16 Jul 12 - 12:24 AM (#3376844) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor It would be a lot harder to read. Besides all US political threads either drop off the front or become endless exchanges between the same two posters, one of them an unregistered guest. If you just had one thread there would only be two people on it. Of course that would make it easier to moderate. |
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16 Jul 12 - 12:25 AM (#3376845) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor By the way I think y'all are doing a good job of moderating. |
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16 Jul 12 - 03:12 AM (#3376869) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor Romney cares about you. |
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16 Jul 12 - 06:46 AM (#3376928) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: GUEST,kendall They should know |
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16 Jul 12 - 06:49 AM (#3376929) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: GUEST,Kendall He strikes me as a typical republican. "Pull up the ladder, I'm aboard". |
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16 Jul 12 - 07:02 AM (#3376938) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: kendall I soured on him when the news broke about how he treated his poor dog. Then when it came out that he sold a lame horse to some sucker. Horses don't come up lame on their own. |
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16 Jul 12 - 07:23 AM (#3376949) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Megan L The problem with a good man entering politics is that it is rather like a virgin entering a brothel many may enter but few if any come out |
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16 Jul 12 - 08:45 AM (#3376974) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Bobert Leech economics got US into the mess so more leeches won't get US out... The government needs to rid itself of the irresponsible Bush tax cuts... All of them... Party is over and time to clean up... B~ |
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16 Jul 12 - 09:46 AM (#3376993) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Greg F. PeeDee's just got his knickers in a twist because in Romney he championed yet one more lying slimeball who has proven himself to be a slimeball and PeeDee is, again, embarrassed. I'm sure he would apologize for both John D. Rockefellers, Mark Hannah, J.P. Morgan, Henry Clay Frick & all the rest as well. At least he's consistent. |
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16 Jul 12 - 11:01 AM (#3377030) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Elmore I used to think he was a decent guy, but lately he seems to have been acting like the boss. (not Springsteen}. Well, he's not the boss of me yet. |
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16 Jul 12 - 01:58 PM (#3377134) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: GUEST Part of the problem, notwithstanding Romney's ideology (what is it?), is that Romney and his wealthy buddies - thanks to the Citizens United decision - may just outright *buy* the election by outspending Obama. Romney and the super PACs that support him may be able to flood the airwaves with so much negative campaigning against Obama that Obama's message (for better or worse) can just get washed away. Maybe the upcoming debates will ameliorate that danger somewhat. According to Harper's Index, 71% of the current U.S. debt was run up by Republican administrations (October 2011 issue. Their source was the New York Times, and their own research). A return to Bush jr's economic policies, if that's what a Romney presidency would do, would be disastrous for the U.S. Bush jr did however do a couple of positive things worth mentioning. During his administration, he budgeted more money for health related programs for people in Africa, and he budgeted more money for the Peace Corps than any president since the program's inception back in the early '60s. Go figure. |
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16 Jul 12 - 02:02 PM (#3377136) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor "he budgeted more money for health related programs for people in Africa" Didn't he make it contingent on not providing birth control or abortion? Lets spend a lot of money on AIDS prevention but not advise condom use? |
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16 Jul 12 - 02:10 PM (#3377140) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Bobert Decent men don't have the high school wrestling champ hold a 125 pound kid down to cut his hair... That is assault, it's cowardly and not decent... B~ |
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16 Jul 12 - 02:19 PM (#3377145) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: GUEST Well, his foreign policy initiatives regarding Africa may not have been perfect BBC World News but lives were saved, and that was a step in the right direction, and no doubt appreciated by the people of Africa. |
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16 Jul 12 - 02:30 PM (#3377151) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor Please identify yourself guest. Joe, Max can't your programmers make it so that the name field cannot be left blank. It seems that would be and easy thing to do and would eliminate a lot of errors. |
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16 Jul 12 - 02:41 PM (#3377159) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: GUEST Guests are not allowed to start threads |
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16 Jul 12 - 02:58 PM (#3377169) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Bobert: "Fine, pdq... Romney releases his 2000 and 2001 tax returns and that should prove it... His father was all about transparency..." YEAH!!..First he gives the model of Obamacare..and now he's shown Obama about 'transparency'...What a guy!!!..I'm surprised more Democrats love him....or was that Republicans?....Oh hell, it's hard to tell the difference, anymore..I think that only the 'devotee parrots' just haven't figured it out, yet....Keeps them thinking they have a freedom of choice!... "...ant the winner of this year's best Academy Award, for this year's feature animated film, goes to...." Gee, i could write more interesting scripts, that weren't so predictable, for the ending....hmmm...what if I did...........? Shit, I wonder how much they pay the guy with the 'storyline'....probably better than Hollywood....hmmm..maybe if the money is right...... See my agent! GfS |
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16 Jul 12 - 03:43 PM (#3377193) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor Aren't Guests supposed to identify themselves? |
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16 Jul 12 - 03:51 PM (#3377198) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Maybe they're all politicians...and all the same! GfS |
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16 Jul 12 - 04:23 PM (#3377222) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Elmore I think the President should do the gentlemanly thing, and pardon Willard for the felonies he's committed. I'd give a long, cogent argument in this regard, but I can't type. |
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16 Jul 12 - 04:27 PM (#3377227) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Bobert Well, Elmore, I wish you could type 'cause I'd like to hear your argument... B~ |
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16 Jul 12 - 05:08 PM (#3377241) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor The President hasn't said anything about felonies. One of his aids has speculated. To me from the evidence I have seen it is pretty clear that Romney hasn't lied to the any government. Frankly, I do not believe that he is stupid enough to have blindly walked away from at least 100 million dollars of his own money and leave it totally in the care of others no matter how much he trusted them. I do believe that he counts on enough voters to be stupid enough to take him and his employees and former employees at their word when they make this outrageous, silly and completely self serving claim. A lot of Republicans are telling him to "take his medicine" and "come clean" frankly I am glad that he is arrogant enough to stay the course on this. |
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16 Jul 12 - 08:27 PM (#3377363) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Stringsinger There is no discussion here. Romney represents a predator company that outsources American jobs and he didn't earn everything himself. He refuses to show his taxes because he is hiding something. There is no billionaire that is self-made. They prey on the economic disadvantage of others. Corporations require government to establish them. Romney knew full well what Bain was doing when they became a predator company and that's why he won't release his taxes. |
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16 Jul 12 - 08:32 PM (#3377365) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor There is some truth to that Stringsinger. I think a major problem with our system is that everything that Romney did at Bain was legal. I think the problem with Romney is that he thinks what he did was moral and ethical. Does that make him a fine man? |
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16 Jul 12 - 08:46 PM (#3377377) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Elmore Finally Willard shows his sense of humor. Yesterday he accused the President of being a Chicago politician. There's not ten cents worth of difference between Chicago politics and Boston politics. |
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16 Jul 12 - 08:57 PM (#3377383) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Stringsinger Mitt is a mine fan. He mines companies and throws them away. |
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16 Jul 12 - 09:21 PM (#3377396) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor Now be fair. He doesn't do that any more. He simply set up an organization that does that and continues to profit from it and own much of it without any "managerial input" at all. Yeah right! |
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16 Jul 12 - 11:06 PM (#3377436) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Amos Some excerpts from fellow Republicans about Mister R: 1. "If you have things to hide, then maybe you're doing things wrong. I think you ought to be willing to release everything to the American people." ~Alabama Governor Robert Bentley, calling for Romney to release more years of tax returns, AP, July 14, 2012 2. "Now Mitt is not a perfect candidate. He has a number of problems. It's hard for him, for blue collar families like mine to identify with him. It's hard for economic conservatives to identify with him. He needs to do more to reach out to Latinos…" ~Former Republican NY Governor George Pataki, "endorsing" Romney and then telling the world how weak he is as a candidate, MSNBC, April 2012 3. "They (voters) want to know what's the truth. They're not interested in a chameleon." ~Michele Bachmann, criticizing Mitt Romney's flip flopping, speech in Florida, December 2011 4. "Well, I think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign. Everything changes. It's almost like an Etch-A-Sketch. You can kind of shake it up and restart all over again. But I will say, if you look at the exit polling data in Illinois, you'll see that Mitt Romney is broadly acceptable to most of the factions in the party. You have to do that in order to become the nominee…" ~Romney Communications Director Eric Fehrnstrom, describing his boss as a man who can't make up his mind, CNN, March 21, 2012 5. "There are a lot of other people out there that some of us wish had run for President, but they didn't. I think Mitt Romney would be a fine President, and he'd be way better than the guy who's there right now." ~Republican Senator Marco Rubio, wishing there were another candidate to pick from, The Daily Caller, March 2012 6. "He's not a bold decision maker like Newt Gingrich is. Every time I talk to him, he says 'well let me think about it.'" ~Romney supporter Sheldon Adelson, describing his new favorite Presidential candidate as a weak man who can't make decisions, Jewish Journal, March 28, 2012 7. "I do know that all of the Michigan delegation worked very hard as related to the revival of the auto industry. There was really a choice between bankruptcy and liquidation. There was no one that was willing to come up not only with the cash to keep them afloat but also to serve the warranties of everyone, you and I that drive all these cars. There was no one that could have picked up those pieces other than the federal government. [The auto bailout was] bipartisan from the get-go. [Without it,] Michigan would have hit 40 percent unemployment rates." ~Republican Michigan Rep. Fred Upton, endorsing Romney and then disagreeing with him about the auto bailout which has been a major Romney attack point, WMUK Radio, February 2012 8. "Mitt Romney and I don't agree on every issue and certainly housing is one of them. When you look at what is going on here in Southern Nevada, you can't say you got to let the housing market hit bottom. We have been bouncing along the bottom for years. And the fact is we have to do everything possible to: 1) keep people in their homes and 2) get people who are out of their homes back into their homes." ~Republican Nevada Rep. Joe Heck, endorsing Romney, then distancing himself from Romney's call to let home foreclosures hit the bottom, Las Vegas Sun, February 2012 9. "Santorum connects with some people. Unfortunately, my guy has a hard time doing that." ~Former AZ Republican Party Chairman Randy Pullen, endorsing Romney and then tearing him down, CNN, February 2012. 10. "Gone are the days when the Republican Party used to put forward big bold visionary stuff…We're gonna have problems politically until we get some sort of third party movement or some alternate voice out there that can put forward new ideas." ~Jon Huntsman, saying that we need a third party not long after endorsing Romney. Also implying that Romney is not bold, nor a visionary leader, "Morning Joe," MSNBC, February 2012 11. "He may not be Mr. Personality, uh, you know, this is a guy who gives a fireside chat and the fire goes out." ~Former GOP Virginia Rep. Tom Davis, endorsing Romney and then announcing how bland and boring Mitt is, News Channel 8 interview, March 2012 12. "Self-deport? What the heck does that mean? I have no doubt Hispanics have been alienated during this campaign. But now there's an opportunity for Gov. Romney to have a sincere conversation about what we can do and why. I absolutely advocate for comprehensive immigration reform. Republicans want to be tough and say, 'Illegals, you're gone.' But the answer is a lot more complex than that." ~New Mexico Governor Susana Martinez, slamming Romney's stance on immigration, Newsweek, May 2012 13. "Pick any other Republican in the country. He is the worst Republican in the country to put up against Barack Obama." ~Rick Santorum, calling Mitt Romney the worse Republican anyone can possibly pick to be the nominee, Racine, Wisconsin, March 2012 14. "He should release the tax returns tomorrow. It's crazy. You've got to release six, eight, ten years back tax returns. Take the hit for a day or two. He has to give a big speech in defense of capitalism, and that will elevate, I think, this race above this tactical back and forth, which I do think he's on the margin of losing." ~Bill Kristol, criticizing Romney's refusal to release tax returns on Fox News, July 15, 2012 15. "He glosses over and doesn't even tell the truth. … Here is a guy who is the ultimate flip-flopper running for president, and he's attacking me for not being principled? That doesn't wash." ~Rick Santorum, campaign event in Tennessee, February 2012 16. "Mitt Romney's losing at this point in a big way. If something's going to come out, get it out in a hurry. I do not know why — given that Mr. Romney knew the day that [Sen. John] McCain lost in 2008 that he was going to run for president again — that he didn't get all of this out and tidy up some of his offshore accounts and all the rest." ~George Will, criticizing Romney for not releasing more tax returns, ABC, July 15, 2012   17. "One of Governor Romney's aides today on television said that Governor Romney, after he wins the primaries, will be like an [Etch A Sketch] — you take whatever he said and you can shake it up and it will be gone, and he's going to draw a whole new picture for the general election." ~Rick Santorum, Harvey, Louisiana, March 2012 18. "I do not yet know if I will find a Romney presidency more acceptable on foreign policy. But I do know that I must oppose the most recent statements made by Mitt Romney in which he says he, as president, could take us to war unilaterally with Iran, without any approval from Congress." ~Rand Paul, National Review, June 2012 19. "We can't nominate such a weak candidate. I'd love to be able to get one-on-one with Gov. Romney and expose the record that would be the weakest record we could possibly put up against Barack Obama." ~Rick Santorum, ABC, March 2012 |
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16 Jul 12 - 11:32 PM (#3377443) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: ollaimh his admissions of bullying a gay student in college pretty much ended ny considering him a decent man. the dog torture was awfull as well. he is offering nothing but to double down on the no taxes and no regulation susten that created the american debt and the crash. lucky for canadians we had the liberals in power during the deregulation fiasco and they wouldn't let the banks enter the speculative markets like subprime mortgages and the bundled options and bonds based on them. and presto, we had no bank fasilures no bail outs and no crash. we are affected by the slump to the south as we sell a lot of everything we produce to our american friends but we have had a big increase in sales to the orient. the no tax and no regulation people are ideologs who are destroying america. if this debt isn't turned arouns__run up by republicams two to one--america will cease to be a major power in our time. fine men don't torture gay people and animals |
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16 Jul 12 - 11:40 PM (#3377446) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Oh give him a break...after Obama runs the deficit and economy to the ground, and beyond, who else would be qualified to liquidate America, and shut her down??..The guy with the most experience...Romney!!..After all, Obama was the most experienced in fucking things up, even worse than before...the two of them is a 'marriage' made in...ummm.....let's see...oh yeah, back rooms!......(or golf courses!). GfS |
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16 Jul 12 - 11:49 PM (#3377451) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: ollaimh let's not forget romney's endless string of outright lies. look at the guardian articel posted by richard bridges or the msn regular blog following romney's lies. my favourite is his assertion that oboma is touring the world apologizing for america, or that obama doubled the deficit(he lowered it) or that he raised taxes(he lowered them as part of the stimulus/ but the lies are a whole new tactic in american politics. never in recent times have we seen such a regular and repeated string of lies from a candidate. decent men don't lie |
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17 Jul 12 - 12:38 AM (#3377462) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor What is unique to Romney among Republicans is that he sticks to the lie even after he gets caught. Most switch to a new lie. |
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17 Jul 12 - 01:43 AM (#3377466) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor How Bain made Romney rich. |
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17 Jul 12 - 02:20 AM (#3377472) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/16/us/politics/when-did-romney-step-back-from-bain-its-complicated.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&smid=tw-share |
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17 Jul 12 - 02:22 AM (#3377473) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/16/opinion/krugman-policy-and-the-personal.html |
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17 Jul 12 - 02:37 AM (#3377476) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: GUEST,999 '6. "He's not a bold decision maker like Newt Gingrich is. Every time I talk to him, he says 'well let me think about it.'" ~Romney supporter Sheldon Adelson, describing his new favorite Presidential candidate as a weak man who can't make decisions, Jewish Journal, March 28, 2012' If indeed Sheldon Adelson said that, I wish to thank him for capturing the essence of the Republican mindset in two sentences. |
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17 Jul 12 - 02:44 AM (#3377478) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor "Those of us who believe in free markets and those of us who believe that in fact the whole goal of investment is entrepreneurship and job creation, we find it pretty hard to justify rich people figuring out clever legal ways to loot a company, leaving behind 1,700 families without a job." ~Newt Gingrich, January 8, 2012 |
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17 Jul 12 - 02:51 AM (#3377481) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor "The fact is, there are a couple of years he may not have paid any taxes. Maybe he's concerned about that. But if it's going to come out, he needs to get it out now so he has a couple of months to explain it." ~Former Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough, "Morning Joe," MSNBC, July 16, 2012 |
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17 Jul 12 - 02:53 AM (#3377483) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor "All we have to do is replace Obama. We are not auditioning for fearless leader. We don't need a president to tell us in what direction to go. We know what direction to go. We want the Ryan budget. We just need a president to sign this stuff. We don't need someone to think it up or design it. The leadership now for the modern conservative movement for the next 20 years will be coming out of the House and the Senate. Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become President of the United States. This is a change for Republicans: the House and Senate doing the work with the president signing bills. His job is to be captain of the team, to sign the legislation that has already been prepared." ~Grover Norquist, calling for conservatives to elect a weak President they can use as a puppet, CPAC, February 2012. NOTE: While Norquist did not specifically mention Romney, other Republicans on this list have noted Romney's weak leadership skills and his lack of spine in standing for what he believes in. Bryan Fischer stated in an earlier quote that Romney would be a pushover as President, which is exactly the kind of President that Norquist wants. These are not ringing endorsements of Mitt Romney. These Republicans are merely speaking the truth about a man who has been running for President for years. He's a flip flopper, a war monger, a vulture capitalist, a tax evader, an outsourcer, a job destroyer, a Wall Street puppet, a weak minded hypocrite who has no vision and zero leadership skills. He cares nothing for the poor or the middle class, and only seeks to help the wealthy at the expense of the rest of the American people. And his fellow Republicans know this. Republicans are not excited about Romney and they think he won't be a good leader, yet they expect the people to vote for him anyway. They must think American voters are stupid. If even Republicans have a problem with Romney, voters shouldn't make him our President. These are Republican quotes every American should actually believe and take seriously. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/07/16/56-republican-quotes-against-mitt-romney-every-american-should-take-seriously/ |
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17 Jul 12 - 03:07 AM (#3377487) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor A fine man's foreign policy views. |
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17 Jul 12 - 08:35 AM (#3377619) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor Republicans know Romney has more to hide. |
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17 Jul 12 - 10:12 AM (#3377664) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Greg F. Sheldon Adelson, Bruce? You mean the obnoxious, criminal, billionaire scumbag? The one who bought Gingrich? THAT Sheldon Adelson? |
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17 Jul 12 - 10:38 AM (#3377683) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Stringsinger Mitt Romney is an elitist, cool, aloof and unaware or not empathetic with the plight of ordinary Americans. He is no Roosevelt. He promotes his wealth as a badge of honor, which is specious because it was arrived at through investments and luxuries given to him by his parents and others. There is no self made man, always requiring the help of others in society, those wealthy who rely on the docile acceptance of those who are not. He would be a terrible president because his quotient of compassion for working people is practically if not completely nil. He deserves the nickname "RoboCorp" because he has dehumanized the political process by endorsing the "Citizen's United" debacle given by the Supreme Court. He gives off the appearance of being a moral person and rather exults in it showing little humility and rubbing the public's nose in dressage horses and car elevators. He is devious in his refusal to be transparent by allowing the public to see his tax records which may be incriminating to him through his business dealings. He has outsources so many jobs and hoarded his money in Swiss bank accounts and the Cayman Islands and legally, he has the right to do this, which is unfortunate because what is deemed legal by those who control that in powerful roles and they are not always just. Justice and legality have historically been at odds. This Supreme Court is flawed not unlike the Court that endorsed Dred Scott and slavery. Mitt Romney might be a fine man to his family and friends but not to the American public who will regret it if he becomes president. |
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17 Jul 12 - 11:33 AM (#3377725) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: GUEST,sciencegeek I was really disgusted by Mitt's total disconnect with reality as the 99% is forced to see it. He talked about his lay ministry and counseling people who had lost their jobs, etc. and then goes on to be "proud" of his Bain record. and loving to fire people. WTF!!!! Is this is his idea of being a good christian? He has more in common with the moneychangers and other hypocrits... remember the ones that Jesus whipped from the temple? I may be an atheist, but I seem to have a little better understanding of what the principles of Christianity are supposed to be than most of the folks representing the Right. |
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17 Jul 12 - 12:32 PM (#3377779) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Stringsinger Romney is shady. He is tricky like Nixon. How about dishonest and disingenuous? Does this define a fine man? Oh he's clever all right. His business practices give you an idea of how he would be as president. He would offshore everything American including the Constitution. |
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17 Jul 12 - 12:44 PM (#3377787) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: catspaw49 TO ADD ON THE REST FROM AMOS' POST...hey, with friends like these.............. 20. "Gov. Romney has claimed to have created 100,000 jobs at Bain and people are wanting to know, is there proof of that claim? And was it U.S. jobs created for United States citizens?" ~Sarah Palin, Hannity, January 2012 21. "I heard Governor Romney here called me an economic lightweight because I wasn't a Wall Street financier like he was. Do you really believe this country wants to elect a Wall Street financier as the president of the United States? Do you think that's the experience that we need? Someone who's going to take and look after as he did his friends on Wall Street and bail them out at the expense of Main Street America." ~Rick Santorum, Rockford, Illinois, March 2012 22. "I don't know who all of his advisers are, but I've seen some of the names and some of them are quite far to the right. And sometimes they might be in a position to make judgments or recommendations to the candidate that should get a second thought." ~Colin Powell, MSNBC, May 2012 23. "Running a business is not the same as being president of the United States." ~Rick Santorum, CNN, March 2012 24. "If you're not sure about whether to support Mitt Romney, whether you're liberal, or whether you're very conservative, you ought to be excited, because he's been on your side at one time or another. So I'm not completely misunderstood. I'm not as excited as I am desperate." ~Louie Gohmert, Republican conference, April 2012 25. "Governor Romney supported the bailout of Wall Street and decided not to support the bailout of Detroit." ~Rick Santorum, Detroit, Michigan, February 2012 26. "At some point he has to show that he has a vision of a better way. He can't just say 'The future is bleak, follow me.' Because no one will." ~Republican strategist Mark McKinnon, according to Politico 27. "This is the free enterprise system. The only place in the world that I can recall where companies never failed was the old Soviet Union. This is what investors do in the free enterprise and capitalism system. And, yes, the free enterprise system can be cruel. But the problem with this administration is that small businesses have been the ones that have suffered the most, the kind that need investors, the kind that don't need the hundreds of pages, the thousands of pages of regulations that continue to plague them and have them continue to hold back on hiring and investment." ~John McCain, calling Romney's tenure at Bain 'cruel,' Fox News, May 2012 28. "He changed his position on virtually everything. I'm a moderate Republican, that's what I am, so I'd be inclined to support someone like Mitt Romney. But all those changes give me pause." ~Rudy Giuliani, February 2012 29. "If Mitt Romney can be pushed around, intimidated, coerced, co-opted by a conservative radio talk show host in Middle America, then how is he going to stand up to the Chinese? How is he going to stand up to Putin? How is he going to stand up to North Korea if he can be pushed around by a yokel like me? I don't think Romney is realizing the doubts that this begins to raise about his leadership." ~American Family Association spokesman Bryan Fischer during his radio program, May 2012 30. "I've never seen a guy change his position so many times, so fast, on a dime." ~Rudy Giuliani, MSNBC, December 2011 31. "We're not going to beat Barack Obama with some guy who has Swiss bank accounts, Cayman Island accounts, owns shares of Goldman Sachs while it forecloses on Florida and is himself a stockholder in Freddie Mae and Freddie Mac while he tries to think the rest of us are too stupid to put the dots together to understand what this is all about." ~Newt Gingrich, Mt. Dora, Florida. January 26, 2012 32. "Don't just talk about Hispanics and say immediately we must have controlled borders. It's kind of insulting when you think about it. Change the tone would be the first thing. Second, on immigration, I think we need to have a broader approach." ~Jeb Bush, criticizing Romney's stance on immigration and his attitude toward Hispanics, Q&A session, June 2012 33. "[Mitt Romney is a] Massachusetts moderate who, in fact, is pretty good at managing the decay." He's "given no evidence in his years in Massachusetts of any ability to change the culture or change the political structure." ~Newt Gingrich, Des Moines, Iowa, January 4, 2012 34. "You can talk about the other back and forth, and flip-flopping and the other things. … If you've wrapped yourself up in too many pledges, that diminishes your ability to do what needs to be done in the final stretch to some extent." ~Jon Huntsman, MSNBC, April 2012 35. "You can't be a perfectly lubricated weather vane on the important issues of the day, whether it's Libya, whether it's the debt ceiling, whether it's the discussion around the Kasich bill in Ohio, where Gov. Romney has been missing in action in terms of showing any kind of leadership." ~Jon Huntsman, CNN, October 2011 36. "Can we drop a little bit of the pious baloney? The fact is, you ran in '94 and lost. That's why you weren't serving in the Senate with Rick Santorum. The fact is, you had a very bad re-election rating, you dropped out of office, you had been out of state for something like 200 days preparing to run for president. You didn't have this interlude of citizenship while you thought about what you do. You were running for president while you were governor." ~Newt Gingrich, NBC News/ Facebook debate, January 8, 2012 37. "I would just have a different policy than what he has espoused… We need to recognize we are not going to deport 12 million people, and … we shouldn't." ~Haley Barbour, criticizing Romney's 'self-deportation' immigration stance, Christian Science Monitor breakfast, June 2012 38. "Now you have to ask a question – is that really, is capitalism really about the ability of a handful of rich people to manipulate the lives of thousands of other people and walk off with the money? Or is that in fact somehow a little bit of a flawed system? And so I do draw distinction between looting a company, leaving behind broken families and broken neighborhoods and then leaving a factory that should be there." ~Newt Gingrich, Manchester, NH, January 9, 2012 39. "Maybe Governor Romney in the spirit of openness should tell us how much money he's made off of how many households that have been foreclosed by his investments." ~Newt Gingrich, CNN debate, January 26, 2012 40. "Clearly while the president is overseas, he's at a conference and while the president is overseas I think it's appropriate that people not be critical of him or our country." ~John Boehner, in response to a question by NBC News on whether Mitt Romney's criticism of President Obama is inappropriate since Obama was in Russia at the time, March 2012 41. "Now, for Romney to believe that somebody's grandmother is going to be so cut off she is going to self deport… He certainly shows no concern for the humanity of people who are already here… I think you have to live in worlds of Swiss bank accounts and Cayman Island accounts and automatic $20 million a year income with no work to have some fantasy this far from reality." ~Newt Gingrich, Univision, January 25, 2012 42. "This is a man whose staff created the PAC, his millionaire friends fund the PAC, he pretends he has nothing to do with the PAC – it's baloney. He's not telling the American people the truth… I just think he ought to be honest with the American people and try to win as the real Mitt Romney, not try to invent a poll-driven, consultant-guided version that goes around with talking points, and I think he ought to be candid. I don't think he's being candid and that will be a major issue. From here on out from the rest of this campaign, the country has to decide: Do you really want a Massachusetts moderate who won't level with you to run against Barack Obama who, frankly, will just tear him apart? He will not survive against the Obama machine." ~Newt Gingrich, CBS' "The Early Show," January 3, 2012 43. "Those of us who believe in free markets and those of us who believe that in fact the whole goal of investment is entrepreneurship and job creation, we find it pretty hard to justify rich people figuring out clever legal ways to loot a company, leaving behind 1,700 families without a job." ~Newt Gingrich, January 8, 2012 44. "Now I have no doubt that Mitt Romney was worried about pink slips — whether he was going to have enough of them to hand out because his company Bain Capital with all the jobs that they killed, I'm sure he was worried that he'd run out of pink slips. There is something inherently wrong when getting rich off failure and sticking it to someone else is how you do your business and I happen to think that's indefensible. If you're a victim of Bain Capital's downsizing, it's the ultimate insult for Mitt Romney to come to South Carolina and tell you he feels your pain, because he caused it." ~Rick Perry, South Carolina, January 9, 2012 45. " I think it's that program, just updated." ~RNC spokesman Alexandra Franceschi, admitting that Romney's economic plan is the Bush plan on steroids, The Fernando Espuelas Show, April 2012 46. "There's a real difference between venture capitalism and vulture capitalism. Venture capitalism we like. Vulture capitalism, no. And the fact of the matter is that he's going to have to face up to this at some time or another, and South Carolina is as good a place to draw that line in the sand as any. That's not what we're looking for in a president of the United States. We're looking for someone that knows how to build jobs, create jobs. And that's what I've done in the state of Texas. So there's no use trying to paper this over. That is a problem for Mitt, and he's going to have to face it." ~Rick Perry, Hannity, January 2012 47. "I think that it has to be a very humane approach to this issue, and we have to come up with solutions to it. But we also have to do something about the drugs that are coming across our southern border that are killing our kids… I think there are some people who want to leave this country and return to the country they came from, but obviously it requires a broader solution that that, and we all know that." ~John McCain, slamming Romney's 'self deportation' immigration plan as an inhumane idea, Univision, February 2012 48. "I know the difference between venture capital[ism] and vulture capitalism. Venture capitalism is a good thing, comes in, gives that gap funding to help these companies get off and get started creating jobs, and work. But Mitt Romney and Bain Capital were involved with what I call vulture capitalism. And they walked into Gaffney and took over that photo album company for no other reason than to basically pick the bones clean. And those people lost their jobs." ~Rick Perry, referring to a local photo-album manufacturer in Gaffney where 150 jobs were cut when Bain assumed control, January 10, 2012 49. "I believe most Americans want their next President to remind them of the guy they work with, not the guy who laid them off." ~Mike Huckabee, describing Mitt Romney in a 2008 campaign ad. 50. "There is no one who's gonna be sitting on that stage who has the record of job creation I have. There's one in particular who's created jobs all around the world. While he was the governor of Massachusetts he didn't create many jobs." ~Rick Perry, attacking Romney's record of outsourcing and job creation, September 2011 51. "Romney, supposedly the Republican most electable next November, is a recidivist reviser of his principles who is not only becoming less electable; he might damage GOP chances of capturing the Senate… Republicans may have found their Michael Dukakis…" ~George Will, blasting Romney's flip flopping, Washington Post, October 2011 52. "He spent more time on the road to Damascus than a Syrian camel driver. And we thought nobody could fill John Kerry's flip-flops! … [Romney's record was] "anything but conservative until he changed all the light bulbs in his chandelier in time to run for President." ~Mike Huckabee, attacking Romney in his book for flip flopping, Do The Right Thing, 2008 53. "Bless his heart, I have respect for Mitt Romney, but I do not have respect for what he has done through this debt increase debate. He waited until it was a done deal that we would increase the debt ceiling and more money would be spent, more money would be borrowed and spent on bigger government, and then he came out and made a statement that he didn't like the deal after all. You can't defer an issue and assume that the problem is then going to be avoided." ~Sarah Palin, ripping Romney for avoiding taking a position on the debt ceiling debate until after Congress voted to raise it, Hannity, August 2011 54. "I don't think that Mitt Romney can legitimately say that he learned anything about how to create jobs in the LBO (leveraged buyout) business. The LBO business is about how to strip cash out of old, long-in-the-tooth companies and how to make short-term profits. All the jobs that he talks about came from Staples. That was a very early venture stage deal. That, you know they got out of long before it got to its current size." ~Former Reagan OMB Director David Stockman, on Romney's job creation experience, Fox News, May 2012 55. "The fact is, there are a couple of years he may not have paid any taxes. Maybe he's concerned about that. But if it's going to come out, he needs to get it out now so he has a couple of months to explain it." ~Former Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough, "Morning Joe," MSNBC, July 16, 2012 56. "All we have to do is replace Obama. We are not auditioning for fearless leader. We don't need a president to tell us in what direction to go. We know what direction to go. We want the Ryan budget. We just need a president to sign this stuff. We don't need someone to think it up or design it. The leadership now for the modern conservative movement for the next 20 years will be coming out of the House and the Senate. Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become President of the United States. This is a change for Republicans: the House and Senate doing the work with the president signing bills. His job is to be captain of the team, to sign the legislation that has already been prepared." ~Grover Norquist, calling for conservatives to elect a weak President they can use as a puppet, CPAC, February 2012. NOTE: While Norquist did not specifically mention Romney, other Republicans on this list have noted Romney's weak leadership skills and his lack of spine in standing for what he believes in. Bryan Fischer stated in an earlier quote that Romney would be a pushover as President, which is exactly the kind of President that Norquist wants. These are not ringing endorsements of Mitt Romney. These Republicans are merely speaking the truth about a man who has been running for President for years. He's a flip flopper, a war monger, a vulture capitalist, a tax evader, an outsourcer, a job destroyer, a Wall Street puppet, a weak minded hypocrite who has no vision and zero leadership skills. He cares nothing for the poor or the middle class, and only seeks to help the wealthy at the expense of the rest of the American people. And his fellow Republicans know this. Republicans are not excited about Romney and they think he won't be a good leader, yet they expect the people to vote for him anyway. They must think American voters are stupid. If even Republicans have a problem with Romney, voters shouldn't make him our President. These are Republican quotes every American should actually believe and take seriously. |
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17 Jul 12 - 06:47 PM (#3377964) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Well, it's obvious that there are not a lot of Romney supporters in Mudcat..including Me......so while you beating a dead horse(BTW catspaw, your post was interesting, and informative...considering a lot was from other candidates, trying to get the nomination)..let me see...oh yeah...so while you beating a dead horse, be fair, and honest, and vet Obama, as well....or are we going to be a walking unpaid political ad? I think that if we HONESTLY went through him, as well..well you'd probably come to the same conclusions that I have. Another 'election' of NO CHOICE! GfS |
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17 Jul 12 - 07:03 PM (#3377975) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Ebbie I find it interesting that anyone can say "No choice" when there is so clearly a huge difference between candidates and party aims. |
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17 Jul 12 - 07:24 PM (#3377988) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor No choice Ebbie? You'd have to be on vacation from sanity to say that! ;-) |
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17 Jul 12 - 07:31 PM (#3377994) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Ebbie If that vacation lasts much longer, JtS, one might say that he is unemployed... |
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17 Jul 12 - 07:37 PM (#3378001) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor Yeah. She's a Sanity Ex-Pat by now. |
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18 Jul 12 - 01:48 AM (#3378122) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Ebbie: "I find it interesting that anyone can say "No choice" when there is so clearly a huge difference between candidates and party aims." Oh yeah?? What are they???...and remember, both those candidates are proven liars..any number of YouTube posts can prove that...So, what is it that they are saying, that you think there is this huge difference...I'm all 'ears'..or 'eyes'. Here, Ebbie.....This explains it pretty well.............Enjoy! GfS |
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18 Jul 12 - 01:53 AM (#3378123) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor Its pretends to like the music so that it can pretend to belong. |
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18 Jul 12 - 01:56 AM (#3378125) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor McCain opposition research on Mitt Romney Hey, John, while you are at it, how about the 23 years of taxes? |
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18 Jul 12 - 07:47 AM (#3378231) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Bee-dubya-ell I agree, Mitt Romney is a fine man. What I'm not sure about is how big the fine should be. |
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18 Jul 12 - 03:56 PM (#3378432) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Jack the Sailorman: "Its pretends to like the music so that it can pretend to belong." Huh?? GfS |
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18 Jul 12 - 04:49 PM (#3378453) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor He/she/it pretends not to know what I was talking about. But it/he/she calls everyone insane and stupid but itself. |
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18 Jul 12 - 04:52 PM (#3378456) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor I like your music, here is a link, you dumb-fucks who voted for him! GfS |
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18 Jul 12 - 06:45 PM (#3378482) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Jack the Sailor: "He/she/it pretends not to know what I was talking about. But it/he/she calls everyone insane and stupid but itself." and.... Jack the Sailor: "I like your music, here is a link, you dumb-fucks who voted for him! GfS." Speaking of which.....you forgot to post the link! GfS |
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18 Jul 12 - 07:07 PM (#3378491) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Don Firth Careful, folks. GoofuS ia trying to divert the thread to himself/herself/itself again. Ignore. Don Firth |
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18 Jul 12 - 07:49 PM (#3378509) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor Here is a question. If a fine man owns a and the dog bites someone can the fine man say that he was not responsible because the dog was not on a leash? |
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18 Jul 12 - 08:33 PM (#3378530) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Elmore Willard is demagoguing the race issue through his accomplises. |
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19 Jul 12 - 12:54 AM (#3378581) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Don,....From: Jack the Sailor Date: 18 Jul 12 - 01:53 AM Its pretends to like the music so that it can pretend to belong. Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 18 Jul 12 - 01:48 AM Go check...who diverted the thread???....and enough about that...being as diverting any more would be contrary to YOUR post! GfS |
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19 Jul 12 - 12:57 AM (#3378583) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor It will inject its self at any opportunity. |
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19 Jul 12 - 08:22 AM (#3378690) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: Jack the Sailor Romney introduced as CEO of Bain. |
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19 Jul 12 - 09:35 AM (#3378709) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man From: saulgoldie Romney may have some traits of a fine man. Holding the kid down to cut his hair and putting the dog on the roof of his car are not among them, of course. However, the main thrust of his campaign, other than his whining that everything Obama has touched or done is evil incarnate, is that being a good businessman makes him qualified to be a good president. Perhaps he was a good businessman. Perhaps. Open to debate. But the imperative in business is to make profit. Whether animals, children, or the environment is/are killed in the process is immaterial. The goal is money, pure and simple. The government, on the other hand, has a very different mission. That is to do the wish of the people, to defend the weak against the steamroller of the wealthy and powerful. it is not about making profit. Furthermore, in principle anyway, since it does NOT have to turn a profit to make investors happy, it can do things more cheaply, or at least more effectively. See: prisons, schools, roads, police, and yes, health care. No, Romney, decent or not is most UNqualified to lead the government BECAUSE his interests are business-oriented. Saul |