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22 Jul 12 - 03:32 PM (#3379972) Subject: Stan Hugill's Performances From: Gibb Sahib The purpose of this thread is to gather, discuss, and analyse information about Stan Hugill's recordings and other performances. Stan Hugill was, cumulatively, perhaps the most influential figure on the revival of shanties/chanties in the 2nd half of the twentieth century. While fellows like Bert Lloyd and Ewan MacColl were extremely influential on the singing of chanties within the broad Anglophone Folk Revival context, Hugill was especially influential in the more rarified genre/subgenre that he would help engender, "Sea Music." Hugill did not exist in a vacuum, and his performance of sailor songs changed over time. In order to understand his work and influence, therefore, I believe one needs to understand where his performances were coming from. That is to say, it is not as if there was a full stock of traditional (orally transmitted, sung at sea) songs that got injected wholesale into Hugill by dint of his sea career and which he simply emitted "as is" for the rest of his life. By the time Hugill had gone to sea, most of the significant works on chantying and chanty collections had already been published. A revival in chanty singing amongst land folk had started in the 1920s, and this was based in versions of chanties that had by then become quite homogenized and even standardized. The U.S. Merchant Marine had revived chanty singing as a pastime among its crews. London's Savage Club was a place where gentlemen gathered and sang chanties for leisure. Numerous chanty recordings were released in the 1920s. At the same time, practical chanty singing had largely died out at sea. Hugill certainly learned a good amount of chanties in a practical context. But many more (how many?) were those he collected from individual singers while that was all going on, i.e. not necessarily stuff he'd sung. These two components made up priceless knowledge, and Hugill shared that in his 1961 work, Shanties from the Seven Seas. Again, however, chanties at that point were not a simple orally-transmitted tradition. Popular media versions were floating around. And by the time Hugill wrote his book he had consulted most of the major print sources that could be found. This led to a synthesis. With the exception of the really "rare" chanties that Hugill sang or collected in his day, most of the chanties in SfSS can be seen as some sort of combination of what Hugill may have heard at sea, heard on land, or read in books, plus his own creative license at the time of writing. There is also much in SfSS that Hugill never sang and never heard, either – stuff reproduced from other books. My understanding is that he could not read music well, and so he may not have had much idea of what some of these songs sounded like. After the publication of SfSS, Hugill, in a way, entered the folk revival scene. He would become a performer, and like other performer, he was bound by certain constraints and conventions of the performance context. This influenced what he performed, to be sure, even after the writing of SfSS had expanded and changed his repertoire. The development did not stop there, however. After becoming active in the Revival, Hugill was influenced by other renditions of the songs and/or was obligated to adopt them. It's difficult to swim upstream. Who nowadays, for example, could go to a singing session and try to sing "South Australia" in a form like it was originally documented while the Lloyd>Clancy Brothers version so saturates the air? A great example of Hugill's change is the chanty of "John Cherokee." He presents an original form of it, that he collected, in SfSS. He recorded that on his first album (1962). Evidently, not many revival singers heard that album (did they?). At some point, a Revival version of "John Cherokee" was worked up, based in Joanna Colcord's collection (but misreading the notation a bit, to create a form that, IMO, is slightly uncharacteristic of an authentic chanty). Hugill's very different version of the song then disappears, and he himself goes on to record the Revival version. All this is by way of introduction to what I hope to discuss in this thread – although anyone is welcome to discuss other things of broad relevance to the topic. I am interested in Hugill's actual performance repertoire (live and on recordings). I'm interested in how that repertoire relates to what he learned at sea, to what he included in his books, and to what other people were singing in the Revival. I'm interested in how those performances were "worked up" – including what "instructions" Hugill gave to others who were singing with him. (McGrath of Harlow had previously given some interesting info on this in a Mudcat thread; such personal anecdotes are of great interest.) And I am interested in how it all developed/changed over time. I hope this provokes some interesting discussion. Gibb Schreffler |
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22 Jul 12 - 04:10 PM (#3379988) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: kendall He gave me one of his tapes from a performance aboard the Cutty Sark. No, I won't loan it. :-) |
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22 Jul 12 - 04:15 PM (#3379992) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: Gibb Sahib kendall-- Is it the official album, "Aboard the Cutty Sark" (1979) or was it a private tape? If the latter, when would that performance have taken place? |
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22 Jul 12 - 04:35 PM (#3380003) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: Keith A of Hertford He came to the old hoddesdon club a couple of times. He signed my LP but foolishly I did not get the book signed. |
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22 Jul 12 - 05:22 PM (#3380025) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: kendall It's a Memorex tape June 11, 1979 |
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22 Jul 12 - 06:20 PM (#3380049) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: Gibb Sahib Keith-- About when was it that he came to the Hoddeson club? Do remember anything about what he sang? Or any commentary about the singing? Which LP was signed? kendall-- Thank you. I am trying to establish whether the contents of that tape -- which i won't ask to borrow! :) -- would have been the same as what turned into the official album. Was Hugill giving several/regular performances on the Cutty Sark, in which case he could have been recorded numerous times, or was it just a one-shot deal? -- in which case your tape could be a dub of the raw recording of the album. |
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22 Jul 12 - 06:43 PM (#3380064) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: Gibb Sahib Some reference info. Back in 2008, I put together a chart of the items in SfSS. Based on that, I tallied the "items" in SfSS at: 418 This, no doubt, is where the book jacket gets the figure, "over 400." (However, it seems that note may just be on the Mystic Seaport Abridged edition -- which really only has closer to 280 items.) Here, "items" includes any text that is given its own heading, and any melody variants. So for example, "Rio Grande (A)"and "Rio Grande (B)" would both be counted, i.e. 2 different items. The item count does not include little scraps of partial texts (though it includes partial melodies, if they differ from the main item). If one collapses variants -- eg. if both the Rio Grande variants are considered as one piece of the song repertoire -- then the total number of items (or songs, let's say) is reduced by about 118. The totally number of "different songs" in the collection, then, is close to 300. Hugill's later books, SHANTIES AND SAILORS' SONGS (1969) and SONGS OF THE SEA (1977), add about 5 English-language songs (I don't have the exact count by me!) and a few foreign-language songs. |
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22 Jul 12 - 06:58 PM (#3380073) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: GUEST,Lighter From the historical point of view, I think it's important to stress that, as far as I can tell, Hugill's *style* didn't change in any significant way between 1962 and at least 1989. And if, as seems likely, MacColl learned "Stormalong" from Hugill's singing before 1956, it hadn't changed much after that date either. |
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22 Jul 12 - 08:04 PM (#3380085) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: kendall Gibb Sahib, I didn't ask and I don't know what is on the official album. If you like I can play it and post the songs here. |
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22 Jul 12 - 09:10 PM (#3380117) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: Gibb Sahib kendall, it would be nice to know, but if it is trouble, don't worry about it. I will list the contents of the album I was referring to in the next post. Perhaps it will ring a bell, and save you the trouble. |
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22 Jul 12 - 09:11 PM (#3380118) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: Gibb Sahib Here's a working list of Hugill recordings. Corrections and additions are appreciated. 1950s Hugill recorded some shanties at the Cecil Sharp House (according to his intro in SfSS). I don't know what these were. However, a recent discussion about where A.L. Lloyd and Ewan MacColl learned their sea songs suggested that a few were based on Hugill's versions. Perhaps there may have been some overlap between these and what was recorded by Hugill. The proposed songs are: Stormalong (way, stormalong, john) Off to Sea Once More Reuben Ranzo Blow Boys Blow Jamboree 1962 SHANTIES FROM THE SEVEN SEAS Stan sings with the York & Albany Crew recorded in Cecil Sharp House. The Ebenezer Stormalong A Long Time Ago Essequibo River Liverpool Packet John Cherokee Row, Bullies, Row Paddy Lay Back John Kanaka The Flash Packet Way Down in Dixie The Companayro Ranzo Ray Swansea Town. 1970 (25 Jan.) The Last Voyage of the Garthpool (Video) Tracks? 1971 MEN AND THE SEA MEN For the Bristol City Museum with "The Folk Tradition". The Lime Juice Ship South Australia. 1978 Sea Songs and Chanteys sung at the 1978 Seattle Chantey Festival A Long time Ago Lowlands 1979 (June?) ABOARD THE CUTTY SARK Blow The Man Down Boston Town Ho New York Girls Ratcliffe Highway Lowlands Shenandoah Santy Anna Leave Her, Johnny Leave Her. 1979 STAN HUGILL REMINISCES The Herga Folk Club, Wealdstone Middlesex. Larry Mare Roll, Bullies, Roll Bounty Was A Packet Ship Strike The Bell Fire Down Below A Long Time Ago Hilo Come Down Below John Cherokee Shiny-O John Kanaka Sacramento Rolling Down To Old Maui. 1980 Sea Songs and Chanteys sung at the 1980 Newport Chantey Festival Paddy Lay Back 1980 ALL I ASK IS A TALL SHIP (Video) On board the 'Sorlandet' on the training leg of the 1980 Tall Ships race. Tracks? 1988 In Concert at Mystic Seaport Vire Au Guindeau Santiano South Australia Blow The Man Down Hooraw for the Black Ball Line Larry Marr Lowlands John Kanaka The Arabella Leave Her Johnny. 1989 A SALTY FORE TOPMAN with Stormalong John. Where Am I to Go The Girls of Dublin Town Running Down To Cuba Old Moke Pickin' On The Banjo Eight Bells Roll Boys Roll The Pilots of Tiger Bay The Gals Of Chile Golden Vanitee Heave Away Boys, Heave Away The Companero Jack all Alone Pull Down Below Aboard The Kangaroo Haul Away Boys The Anglesy. 1989-91 CHANTS DES MARINS ANGLAIS with Stormalong John. Live recordings at Douarnenez 88 and Fete du chant de marin, Paimpol 1989-1991 Blow the Man Down The Balaena South Australia Santiana Lowlands John Kanaka Serafina Admiral Benbow Rolling Down to Old Maui Let the Bulgine Run Good Bye Fare Ye Well The Girls of Dublin Town Sam's Gone Away The Drunken Sailor Strike the Bell Roll the Old Chariot Hieland Laddie Bulley in the Ally The Black Ball Line Randy Dandy O Paddy Lay Back Rio Grande 1990 The Last Shantyman. Live in Workum (Video) from the International Shanty Festival 1990 Lowlands Haul on the Bowline Haul Away Joe South Australia Leave Her Johnny 1990 Pusser's Rum Sailing Songs Strike the Bell Drink a Tot to Me Blow the Man Down Santiano 1991 (November) SAILING DAYS with Stormalong John (last recording). A-Rolling Down The River Way Down In Dixie Whaling Johnny Round The Bay Of Mexico Shenandoah Radcliffe Highway We're All Bound to Go The Fireship The Indian Lass The Leaky Ship Bosun's Alphabet Sacramento. |
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22 Jul 12 - 09:31 PM (#3380129) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: Gibb Sahib And here is a list, culled from the above, of songs that Hugill sang. It is just raw data. if you can think of any other songs you've heard him sing, please add the (preferably with a note of where/when you heard it). A Long Time Ago (3) Aboard The Kangaroo Admiral Benbow A-Rolling Down The River (2) Blow The Man Down (4) Boston Town Ho Bosun's Alphabet Bounty Was A Packet Ship Bully in the Alley Chinee Bumboatman [I've taken this from another source, not given above] Eight Bells Essequibo River Fire Down Below Golden Vanitee Good Bye Fare Ye Well Haul Away Boys Haul Away Joe Haul on the Bowline Heave Away Boys, Heave Away Hieland Laddie Hilo Come Down Below Jack all Alone John Cherokee (2 styles) John Kanaka (4) Larry Marr (2) Leave Her Johnny (3) Let the Bulgine Run Liverpool Packet Lowlands (5) New York Girls Old Moke Pickin' On The Banjo Paddy Lay Back (3) Pull Down Below Randy Dandy O Ranzo Ray Ratcliffe Highway (2) Rio Grande Roll Boys Roll Roll the Old Chariot Roll, Bullies, Roll (2) Rolling Down to Old Maui (2) Round The Bay Of Mexico Running Down To Cuba Sacramento (2) Sam's Gone Away Santiana (4) Serafina Shenandoah (2) Shiny-O South Australia (4) Stormalong Strike The Bell (3) Swansea Town. The Anglesy The Balaena The Black Ball Line (2) The Companero (2) The Drunken Sailor The Ebenezer The Fireship The Flash Packet The Gals Of Chile The Girls of Dublin Town (2) The Indian Lass The Leaky Ship The Lime Juice Ship The Pilots of Tiger Bay Vire Au Guindeau Way Down in Dixie (2) We're All Bound to Go Whaling Johnny Where Am I to Go [Blow Boys Blow [Jamboree [Off to Sea Once More [Reuben Ranzo [Stormalong (way, stormalong, john)] That's 77 songs. |
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22 Jul 12 - 10:14 PM (#3380149) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: GUEST Currently on eBay at £14.99 starting price (no bids yet):- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STAN-HUGILL-Aboard-The-Cutty-Sark-CD-RARE-OOP-2000-Old-Sea-Songs-Shanties-/110920201574?pt=UK_CDsDVDs_ (CD version from year 2000 of Joe Stead's Greenwich Village album (presumably LP) of 1979). Source indicated as CM Distribution, Harrogate. Songs as listed above, introduction by Jim McGeean, and between song chat on various topics from (?) Stan Hugill. Also available from the Chantey Cabin for £12.00 plus p&p The Chantey Cabin (http://chanteycabin.co.uk/ ) had a few Stan Hugill CDs available at the Centenary event they organized in Liverpool a few years back, and still carry some stock. I seem to remember a commemorative CD which went to everybody who took part in the event. Mystic Seaport Store has http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stan-Hugill-in-Concert-CD-/150387521024?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item2303cb7600 available, as do Chantey Cabin. Ross |
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22 Jul 12 - 11:27 PM (#3380172) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: Reinhard Smithsonian Folkways has Stan Hugill on two more CDs: Sea Music of Many Lands: The Pacific Heritage Folkways FW38405 Recorded in 1980 at the annual Festival of the Sea in San Francisco Stan Hugill sings South Australia and Blow the Man Down Songs of the Sea: The National Maritime Museum Festival of the Sea Folkways FW37315 Recorded in open air at the 1979 Hyde Street Pier in San Francisco Stan Hugill sings Clear Away the Track |
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22 Jul 12 - 11:41 PM (#3380178) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: Gibb Sahib Great, Reinhard. Thank you. *** Still need track listings for these media: 1980 ALL I ASK IS A TALL SHIP (Video) On board the 'Sorlandet' on the training leg of the 1980 Tall Ships race. 1970 (25 Jan.) The Last Voyage of the Garthpool (Video) I suspect some UK/Euro folks out there have these. *** I'm fascinated by the seeming fact that the songs I think Hugill may have shared with Lloyd/MacColl are not turning up in his later recordings. |
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23 Jul 12 - 01:04 PM (#3380463) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: Gibb Sahib Here's a list of Hugill repertoire this time sorted according to whether the songs had appeared in his books. While most would be in SfSS, the appearance of other songs later on usually indicates that he didn't consider them shanties (thus escaping inclusion in SfSS) or that he only learned or discovered them later in life. SHANTIES FROM THE SEVEN SEAS (1961) A Long Time Ago (3) Aboard The Kangaroo A-Rolling Down The River (2) Blow The Man Down (5) Bosun's Alphabet Bully in the Alley Chinee Bumboatman Essequibo River Fire Down Below Golden Vanitee Good Bye Fare Ye Well Haul Away Boys Haul Away Joe Haul on the Bowline Heave Away Boys, Heave Away Hieland Laddie Hilo Come Down Below Jack all Alone John Cherokee (2 styles) John Kanaka (4) Larry Marr (2) Leave Her Johnny (3) Let the Bulgine Run (2) Liverpool Packet Lowlands (5) New York Girls Old Moke Pickin' On The Banjo Paddy Lay Back (3) Randy Dandy O Ranzo Ray Ratcliffe Highway (2) Rio Grande Roll Boys Roll Roll the Old Chariot Roll, Bullies, Roll (2) Round The Bay Of Mexico Sacramento (2) Santiana (4) Serafina Shenandoah (2) South Australia (5) Stormalong Swansea Town. The Anglesy The Black Ball Line (2) The Companero (2) The Drunken Sailor The Ebenezer The Fireship The Flash Packet The Gals Of Chile The Girls of Dublin Town (2) The Lime Juice Ship Vire Au Guindeau Way Down in Dixie (2) We're All Bound to Go Where Am I to Go [Blow Boys Blow [Jamboree [Off to Sea Once More [Reuben Ranzo [Stormalong (way, stormalong, john)] SHANTIES AND SAILORS' SONGS (1969) Admiral Benbow Bounty Was A Packet Ship Strike The Bell (3) SONGS OF THE SEA (1977) Eight Bells Rolling Down to Old Maui (2) From other sources / not in his books Boston Town Ho Pull Down Below Running Down To Cuba Sam's Gone Away Shiny-O The Balaena The Indian Lass The Leaky Ship The Pilots of Tiger Bay Whaling Johnny |
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23 Jul 12 - 01:24 PM (#3380472) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: Keith A of Hertford My signed LP is ATCS, and dated Nov.83. The recording was made "on the evening of Monday June 11th 1979 during, and by courtesy of, the Grennwich Festival" I can not remember details of his performances. Sorry Gibb. |
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23 Jul 12 - 02:16 PM (#3380499) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: Gibb Sahib Thanks, Keith! That at least tells us that kendall's tape is from the same performance (ie because of the date). |
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23 Jul 12 - 02:49 PM (#3380520) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: Gibb Sahib I need to back-peddle from a comment I made in the OP. About "John Cherokee", I thought I remembered finding Hugill had changed his performance of it. I thought I remembered some later recording that was different than the earlier and his book. Well, I wasn't on drugs, so maybe lack of drugs explain it! I checked again, and on his later recording of it, 1979, he did sing it in his "book" way. I have not heard his 1962 recording, but it seems only possible that he would have sung it that way, too. Where I got confused, i think, is that Marc Bernier of Mystic Seaport chanty staff said on another thread that when that group put together their booklet of songs, he transcribed them in just the way people sung. He stated that the SfSS melody was not what Hugill was singing at that time (i.e. the 1980s, I guess), and that the form of melody now well known in the Revival scene is what Hugill sang. I don't have any other evidence to verify that claim though -- one that would imply Hugill caved (?) to singing it the Revival way in the 1980s. |
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23 Jul 12 - 03:05 PM (#3380523) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: Gibb Sahib So, perhaps thinking in terms of each set of recordings, moving chronologically... 1. The 1950s Cecil Sharp House recordings: what do we know? *** 2. The first album, Shanties from the Seven Seas. Very interesting set list. It strikes me as slightly uncharacteristic of the kind of stuff he'd later do. The Ebenezer Stormalong A Long Time Ago Essequibo River Liverpool Packet John Cherokee Row, Bullies, Row Paddy Lay Back John Kanaka The Flash Packet Way Down in Dixie The Companayro Ranzo Ray Swansea Town. There is slightly more emphasis on the songs he gathered from his West Indian informants. Or maybe the emphasis is just on songs that had few sources / that were not well known. Because there is also maybe an avoidance of the songs that would have been really well known. My guess is that a goal was to follow up the SfSS publication with some examples of what was really special in it, stuff others didn't have in their repertoire/ record collection. In later years, Hugill settled into what he really *liked* to sing, I suppose. How were these performances (for this album) worked up? Did Hugill do them all from memory, or were some oddball items from his collection for which reason he needed to reference the book or jot down words? Who were "the York & Albany Crew"? McGrath of Harlow shared this memory 13 yrs ago on Mudcat: // Date: 27 Nov 99 - 09:24 PM When Stan Hugill was recording "Shanties of the Seven Seas" many years ago, down in the cellar of Cecil Sharp House in London, he was very keen on keeping them authentic as working shanties. So he had the shanty crew (of which I was one) walking round in a circle for the capstan shanties, till we got it right, and hauling on cables for some of the other songs - whatever was the appropriate kind of activity. // |
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23 Jul 12 - 05:45 PM (#3380569) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: Steve Gardham Gibb You've probably already done this, but there may be some relevant bits in 'Sailortown'. 1967 |
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24 Jul 12 - 01:40 AM (#3380671) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: Gibb Sahib A quote from elsewhere in Mudcat's past, from singer Stan Kelly: // Subject: RE: A.L. Lloyd:History and anecdotes? From: GUEST,skb@atdial.net - PM Date: 07 Dec 03 - 12:14 AM Chanteyranger forgot to mention that Stan Hugill & I did a chantey record for HMV (that gives my age away?) I think we each "took the lead" on diverse tracks For the chorus Stan dragged in the usual suspects The LP was named after his book Shanties of the 7 seas" I'll do a google when I have the time Wonder if HMV's successors (EMI??) kept the master tapes? // |
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24 Jul 12 - 02:21 PM (#3380926) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: radriano I have the Cutty Sark performance as a CD. |
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02 Aug 12 - 12:58 PM (#3385155) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: Barbara Gibb, I heard Stan, Louis Killen (ne) and a whole bunch of other singers do a lot of chanties over a three day period at the Tall Ships Festival in Seattle WA in 1976. There was singing in the day at Pikes Street Market, and in the evening at a bar on the end of a point, off Bellingham, maybe? One of the songs I learned in that time period was Doodle Let Me Go (Yellow/Yaller Gals), and there's a thread on it here that says Stan performed it. http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=49421 Blessings, Barbara |
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25 Jul 13 - 09:51 AM (#3541542) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: GUEST,Someone who trained 1980 and was filmed with I remember Stan very well... In 1980, I was on board the 'Sorlandet' and at the start of training I was really afraid of climbing the rigging. But I kept at it, and ended up being one of the most enthusiastic. In fact, it was hard to keep me from it, ha... One of the BBC segments consists of me and Stan up in the rigging - the oldest most adept and the new enthusiast - and I will never forget how kind he was to me. I would so love to see that BBC documentary. It brings me to tears just thinking about how wonderful it would be. Thank you for listening And God bless Stan!! |
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25 Jul 13 - 10:19 AM (#3541554) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: Lighter Did he sing any of his "bawdy" shanties? Do you remember how any of them went? The biggest question in Stan Hugill studies.... |
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25 Jul 13 - 04:06 PM (#3541683) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: doc.tom The biggest question in Stan Hugill studies... Is unresolvable, Jon |
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25 Jul 13 - 07:36 PM (#3541741) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: dick greenhaus His 1961 recording Shanties from the Seven Seas was recorded to plug his book of the same title. It's still available as a Folktrax CD from (who else)CAMSCO Music Tracklist: RATCLIFFE HIGHWAY - OH AYE RIO - STORMALONG - NOAH'S ARK - RANZO RAY - WHISKY JOHNNY - JOHN KANAKA - PADDY LAY BACK - JAMBOREE - LIVERPOOL PACKET - ESSIQUIBO RIVER - DIXIE - SWANSEA TOWN - ALABAMA - EBENEZER - FIRE DOWN BELOW - CAMPANERO - LADDY MARR - ROW BULLIES ROW |
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26 Jul 13 - 12:11 PM (#3542029) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: Lighter Hi, Tom. Legend has it that Hugill used to sing bawdy shanties at festivals after hours. Surely someone learned some of them. On the other hand, possibly there were only one or two verses, and they weren't much. Which is my theory. I've posted elsewhere on the bawdy shanties he sang, somewhat reluctantly, at Mystic in the '88. |
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07 Sep 19 - 02:20 AM (#4007652) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: GUEST,Jerzy Beautifull sailor song from Stan Hugill's songbook, i hope you will enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPX2QYgUno0&list=PLoZsxkVOo1s9BxHTgrXrojSSbMbSnXBxJ&index=20&t=0s If you scroll below the video you will find a line where you can like (or not) a video, share, or save. If you click share it gives you a much shorter link: https://youtu.be/YPX2QYgUno0. ---mudelf |
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08 Aug 21 - 08:23 AM (#4115806) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: GUEST Where will I find Stan Hugill singing 1880 Storm. Chorus 1st. line is "And it's three score and ten boys and men were lost from Grimsby town..." |
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08 Aug 21 - 09:13 AM (#4115811) Subject: RE: Stan Hugill's Performances From: Steve Gardham 'Three Score and Ten' has been recorded by many singers, probably most influentially by The Watersons. One Leeds group even called themselves 'Three Score and Ten' after the song. Don't remember Stan singing it. The song was collected in Filey from the fishermen's choir, by Nigel Hudleston about 1960, but it was written by William Delf(t) of Grimsby and printed for him on a broadside to be sold to raise funds for the fishermen's families. The great storm was in February 1889, not 1880. We had Stan with Bob Roberts for our Hull Whaling Festival in 1969. Unfortunately I don't think anyone recorded what they sang. I'll check the archives, see what we have. |