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26 Jul 12 - 12:16 PM (#3381779) Subject: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Desert Dancer From mega-blogger Andrew Sullivan, a Washington, DC-based Brit ex-pat: How To Royally Piss Off An Ally All in all: hilarious so far. But one serious point: the Brits bitch and moan about everything all the time. They are characterologically piss-takers and doom-mongers, fearing (and predicting) national embarrassment always around the corner. But if a non-Brit joins in the doom chorus, the ranks will close, and the anger will be intense. They expect that kind of sneer from the French, not from an American. And now the Brits have a real asshole to prove wrong: the guy who's running to be president of the US. ~ Becky in Tucson |
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26 Jul 12 - 12:22 PM (#3381782) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: MGM·Lion Oh, dear. Sullivan is too much integrated into his adoptive home: he has forgotten how to spell 'arsehole'! ~M~ |
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26 Jul 12 - 12:46 PM (#3381791) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Q (Frank Staplin) 'arsehole' is a local variant, mostly restricted to England; far outnumbered by 'assholes' in North America. (Hmmm, I don't think that says what I had in mind). |
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26 Jul 12 - 01:28 PM (#3381812) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Barb'ry I agree with the piss take bit but am slightly worried that despite being (allegedly) British, he doesn't realise most of the doom-mongering is also a piss take or at least vaguely tongue in cheek. It's sort of a cross between 'Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn' and 'Oh god, here we go again'. |
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26 Jul 12 - 06:54 PM (#3381962) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: McGrath of Harlow I don't think too many people in England give a monkeys about Romney. I rather doubt if most people are really aware of his existance, still less of his presence. |
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26 Jul 12 - 07:05 PM (#3381964) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Bobert Romney ain't wired correctly... It ain't his fault... He's just, ahhhh, defective... B~ |
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26 Jul 12 - 08:47 PM (#3382011) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Don(Wyziwyg)T He's just a broken reed from the Church of the Latter Day Saints, or in English, a moron. Don T. P.S. That isn't a typo. |
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26 Jul 12 - 09:15 PM (#3382025) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Big Al Whittle 'characterologically'.....hmmm |
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26 Jul 12 - 09:31 PM (#3382029) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: GUEST,999 In the parlance, "It was revealed." If by chance anyone from the Conservative government of Canada visits England, you have my permission to keep it. No thanks required. |
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26 Jul 12 - 10:26 PM (#3382046) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Desert Dancer Mike Luckovich's cartoon on the proceedings ~ Becky in Tucson |
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27 Jul 12 - 01:48 AM (#3382086) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Big Al Whittle Perhaps Sir John took Mitt to meet Q and fitted him up with atomic jet skis that fold up into the hologram of a machine gun - they'd be useful in Utah. he could play his Little Jimmy Osmond albums on it. |
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27 Jul 12 - 03:55 AM (#3382101) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Stu We expect a far better standard of sneer from the French than anything a boorish oaf like Mitt could muster. Sullivan's obviously spent too long tootling around inside the beltway; we're not bitching and moaning, we're taking the piss out of people like him. P.S. Love the way Mitt called Ed "Mr Leader". It would have been inspired if it wasn't for the fact he was being genuinely thick. |
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27 Jul 12 - 04:10 AM (#3382103) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Dave Hanson Q, it's arsehole not asshole, it's our language, English, get it, we made an arsehole of teaching it to you colonials though. Who is Milt Romney ? Dave H |
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27 Jul 12 - 04:17 AM (#3382104) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Backwoodsman In a recent poll of 1,000 British Olympic-Games-Ticket-Holders, 999 responded by asking, "Who the fuck is Mutt Romney?". Is it true that he changed his name from Terry Fuckwit? |
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27 Jul 12 - 04:38 AM (#3382112) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: David C. Carter He's the product of "Bad Sperm". |
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27 Jul 12 - 07:28 AM (#3382174) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: kendall Maybe he's an idiot savant? He knows how to make money, but has no clue about anything else, such as how to transport a dog 200 miles. |
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27 Jul 12 - 08:33 AM (#3382194) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Dave Hanson He'd get more respect if he was called Terry Fuckwit. Dave H |
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27 Jul 12 - 09:56 AM (#3382226) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Arkie While I do not think Milt intended to insult the British, he did not present himself as an ideal diplomat. And he certainly has demonstrated a tendency to twist comments into something that was not intended or meant. You might say he is getting a taste of his own medicine. |
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27 Jul 12 - 10:42 AM (#3382242) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Stu He's coming across as a thick, out-of-touch rich person in a country that still has a royal family.* *This joke is one I nicked off twitter and tweaked slightly. |
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27 Jul 12 - 10:57 AM (#3382247) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Bill D Doesn't he have ANY aides with him on this trip who could suggest quietly that he should... Shut up, Mitt! He 'revealed' that he had actually spoken to someone in MI6.... too bad they didn't 'do something useful' with him when given the chance. Next, he's going to Israel...what could possibly go wrong? |
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27 Jul 12 - 12:52 PM (#3382301) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Richard Bridge Funny, was my post eaten by the post eater or modded off? I pointed out that Mutt had made a bit of a twat of himself there was the "Anglo-Saxon" gaffe the olympics gaffe the leader gaffe the MI6 gaffe. It's quite a tally in so short a space of time. |
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27 Jul 12 - 01:31 PM (#3382309) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: GUEST Could we Yanks persuade you Brits to keep him? We'll pay you handsomely if you find some excuse to detain him until after, say, Nov.6th. Find a problem with his visa or passport or something. Better yet, declare him a terrorist threat - now that would be rich. Thanks in advance. |
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27 Jul 12 - 06:47 PM (#3382425) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: it'smagic Not Terry F, his real name is Willard (and this is true). But I must have slept through the Anglo Saxon gaffe. What was it? |
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27 Jul 12 - 08:12 PM (#3382459) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: GUEST,999 (NEWSER) – Mitt Romney was backpedaling as fast as he could yesterday after an unidentified adviser derided President Obama for not being able to recognize the depth of the British-American relationship because he can't fully appreciate the shared "Anglo-Saxon heritage," the Daily Telegraph reported Tuesday. "We are part of an Anglo-Saxon heritage," and Romney "feels that the special relationship is special," the adviser was quoted by the Telegraph. "The White House didn't fully appreciate the shared history we have." The Telegraph warned that the comments "may prompt accusations of racial insensitivity." Vice President Joe Biden immediately accused Romney of "playing politics with international diplomacy." A Romney spokeswoman initially denied that the statements were made, but Romney said later that he didn't agree with the comments. "I'm generally not enthusiastic about adopting the comments made by people who are unnamed. I have a lot of advisers," he told Brian Williams on CBS. "I can tell you that we have a very special relationship between the US and Great Britain. It goes back to our very beginnings—cultural and historical. But I also believe the president understands that. So I don't agree with whoever that adviser might be." Romney yesterday started a six-day trip to Britain, Poland, and Israel, beginning in London. The above is from http://www.newser.com/story/150829/mitt-tries-to-quash-anglo-saxon-gaffe.html |
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27 Jul 12 - 09:54 PM (#3382496) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Don Firth Don't you folks have a useless, uninhabited little rock somewhere out among the Orkneys or Hebrides you could maroon him on? Being a bit of a bird-brain, he'd be right at home among the puffins. 'Course I don't know how the puffins would feel about that. . . . Don Firth |
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27 Jul 12 - 10:41 PM (#3382510) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Richard Bridge Hmm - how about the Falklands - he should find the sheep intellectually stimulating. |
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27 Jul 12 - 10:44 PM (#3382511) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Big Al Whittle Hang on! There's still sixteen days for us to make a complete and utter bollocks of everything.. Could be this Baseball Mitt Rumbugger is the only one to have grasped the situation in all its horror - namely we have handed this massive project to people who couldn't run a whelk stall - people who every year nearly bankrupt one of the richest countries in the world. |
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27 Jul 12 - 10:54 PM (#3382514) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: GUEST,999 Mitt Romney: it's cruel of you people to speak of him in this fashion. You should be ashamed of yourselves. However, if you Brits decide to keep him, may I be so bold as to suggest you take Stephen Harper and Peter MacKay to sweeten the pot just a tad? ########################################## Fook you then, just Harper. ########################################### To my Canadian friends: Sorry, I tried! |
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28 Jul 12 - 12:09 AM (#3382534) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: YorkshireYankee Actually, Mitt's done Davey C a BIG favour; Davey should be thanking him. In the space of 24 hours, the papers have gone from nearly nonstop criticism of the handling of the Games to lambasting Romney for his comments. The jaw-dropping problems with G4S/security, the diva-like demands of the sponsors, the appalling waits at an alarmingly understaffed Immigration, and the threatened strikes -- all are now almost forgotten/forgiven as the media and the people of GB pull together to show that churlish Mitthead that he has "misunderestimated" (a Bush-ism; sorry... couldn't resist!) the Brits. If I didn't know better, I'd think Davey had paid him to say disparaging things... |
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28 Jul 12 - 03:14 AM (#3382558) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Backwoodsman Well you could be right, YY. He's so obnoxiously avaricious I'd bet that if you waved dollar bills at him, he'd probably agree to eat his own shit. |
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28 Jul 12 - 04:29 AM (#3382572) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: John MacKenzie "On September 16, 1620, the Mayflower set sail,for America." It all started so well. What went wrong? |
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28 Jul 12 - 04:35 AM (#3382574) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Backwoodsman They beat us in the War of Independence, which then gave the lunatics freedom to take over the asylum. |
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28 Jul 12 - 06:09 AM (#3382602) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Richard Bridge Another irony is that a major reason they did was thanks to robust and effective support from the French, particularly on the water, yet redneck Americans still dub the French "Cheese eating surrender monkeys". |
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28 Jul 12 - 07:35 AM (#3382621) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: MGM·Lion I'm not sure that a satirical character in The Simpsons can be taken as representing very many Americans, Richard -- [not but what some French are cheese-eating surrender monkeys at that: one thing those of my age will never forgive is that obnoxious swine de Gaulle accepting our aid and hospitality right thru WWii, when he fled his native country leaving it to others to lead the Resistance, and then turned on us over the EC &c. Bastard! & then they elected him President...] BTW, who is this Romney person? Some sort of prez candidate, I gather? I never read news reports about US Elections, regarding them as only marginally more interesting than American football [so-called] reports, accounts of film actors' sexual shenanigans, & gardening columns about when to spread the shit on your mangelwurzels. ~M~ |
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28 Jul 12 - 11:26 AM (#3382708) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: McGrath of Harlow I'd imagine that the idea might have been that saying stuff designed to piss off the British (if they ever took any notice of it, which is pretty unlikely) would have been an intentional bid to appeal to voters back home. If he can repeat the same ploy with a whole range of other foreign countries that should go down pretty well with the kind of people he's hoping will vote for him. |
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28 Jul 12 - 12:29 PM (#3382737) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: GUEST,999 I still don't see anyone asking for Stephen Harper. It's a sad day when no one wants your Prime Minister. If we promise to keep him in haircuts and gels, would y'all reconsider? |
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28 Jul 12 - 12:39 PM (#3382743) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: McGrath of Harlow It's a sad day when no one wants your Prime Minister. I'd have thought you'd be looking forward to that day, so far as that one is concerned... |
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28 Jul 12 - 06:24 PM (#3382866) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Richard Bridge It does seem that various "Republicans" in the USA have now, since Romney has taken such a drubbing here, taken to describing the UK as a degenerate second class nation. It really does seem that George III was right. |
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28 Jul 12 - 06:41 PM (#3382873) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: catspaw49 Tell ya' what.........How about you keep Mittens over there in his preferred Anglo-Saxon air and we'll send all of you a lifetime supply of feathers to shove up your "arses" and thus we will ALL be tickled to death! Spaw |
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28 Jul 12 - 07:03 PM (#3382881) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Greg F. I'm not sure that a satirical character in The Simpsons can be taken as representing very many Americans, Richard -- You're forgetting that the phrase was picked up & used in session and out by a large cadre of (Mostly Republican)idiots in the U.S. House of Representatives and that august body also officially re-named French fries (a.k.a. chips) as Freedom Fries. Such is the idiocy that sentient beings in the U.S. of A. have to put up with on an ever more frequent basis. |
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29 Jul 12 - 12:37 AM (#3382987) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Alice Mitt is a twit. His wrote a book, titled No Apology, in which you will find this: "England [sic] is just a small island. Its roads and houses are small. With few exceptions, it doesn't make things that people in the rest of the world want to buy. And if it hadn't been separated from the continent by water, it almost certainly would have been lost to Hitler's ambitions." Now that his trip has taken him to Israel, he has decided to have meetings in secret, not allowing any reporters. |
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29 Jul 12 - 12:38 AM (#3382988) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Alice That should be "He wrote". sorry |
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29 Jul 12 - 04:19 AM (#3383017) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Big Al Whittle 'Mitt is a twit. His wrote a book, titled No Apology, in which you will find this: "England [sic] is just a small island. Its roads and houses are small. With few exceptions, it doesn't make things that people in the rest of the world want to buy. And if it hadn't been separated from the continent by water, it almost certainly would have been lost to Hitler's ambitions." Interesting! What it tells you is that being the only country in Europe to let them use our airspace when they wanted to bomb Libya. Putting our young mens lives on the line in Helmand .....doesn't buy you respect, does it? Phew! |
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29 Jul 12 - 05:43 AM (#3383048) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Richard Bridge You know what? I wonder if he flew here in an aircraft using Rolls Royce engines. Turd. Ignorant primitive insular turd. |
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29 Jul 12 - 06:09 AM (#3383058) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Don(Wyziwyg)T I think that we ought perhaps to take such US Republican politicians' comments as something of a compliment. After all, this does indicate that this "degenerate second class nation" has the power to upset the largest single collection of idiots and crooks in the Western Hemisphere. Don T. |
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29 Jul 12 - 10:55 AM (#3383177) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: GUEST,Peter Laban Meanwhile, visiting Israel, the bloody eejit let it be known he will fully support a military intervention by Israel in Iran. Lovely, just what we need. |
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29 Jul 12 - 11:05 AM (#3383182) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Ebbie I suspect that the Americans who denigrate the French got most of their opinions from the Brits. |
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29 Jul 12 - 11:12 AM (#3383186) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: GUEST,999 "Meanwhile, visiting Israel, the bloody eejit let it be known he will fully support a military intervention by Israel in Iran. Lovely, just what we need." If indeed he did, then he he should be tried then shot for giving state secrets to a foreign government. |
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29 Jul 12 - 12:35 PM (#3383221) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Alice Romney is a Mormon bishop. He did his mission in France (during the Viet Nam war, so he escaped military service) and it is one of the many things that make the French-bashing Republicans uncomfortable. |
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29 Jul 12 - 01:21 PM (#3383242) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: GUEST,Peter Laban If indeed he did, Well, there's no doubt about it, it's being widely reported a campaign spokesman issued a statement to that effect. |
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29 Jul 12 - 01:23 PM (#3383244) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: GUEST,999 I wasn't doubting you, Peter. Just had trouble believing what I'd read. Romney is not only a fool, he's a stupid and dangerous fool. |
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29 Jul 12 - 03:03 PM (#3383302) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: GUEST,GY morris man Isn'that what most of you paranoid americans like,dangerouse fools, and continuing on from that, dangerouse fools whith guns. |
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29 Jul 12 - 03:25 PM (#3383311) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Don Firth "Isn'that what most of you paranoid americans like,dangerouse fools, and continuing on from that, dangerouse fools whith guns." I hope, GUEST, GY morris man, that you're not including all Americans in your statement. I, along with a large number of other Americans, am not paranoid, am very much in favor of instituting strict gun laws in this country, and I sure as hell won't be voting for Romney or supporting him in any way. It's fairly easy for some people to accuse everybody in a particular group on the basis of the actions of a few. That's called "bigotry." Don Firth P. S. Mitt Romney is merely George W. Bush redux. Total nincompoop, just a slightly different style. |
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29 Jul 12 - 03:52 PM (#3383330) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Greg F. the bloody eejit let it be known he will fully support a military intervention by Israel in Iran Not only that, he called it "self defense". Kinda like George Zimmerman, I guess. |
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29 Jul 12 - 04:32 PM (#3383340) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler Is he that bloke who makes those nice frames that so many of us use nowadays? Is he related to Bobbie Zimmerman? |
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29 Jul 12 - 07:36 PM (#3383420) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Don(Wyziwyg)T ""I suspect that the Americans who denigrate the French got most of their opinions from the Brits."" If they did, Ebbie, then once again they missed the subtleties of UK humour. Not entirely surprising! They usually do. Don T. |
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29 Jul 12 - 07:42 PM (#3383422) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Don(Wyziwyg)T ""If indeed he did, then he he should be tried then shot for giving state secrets to a foreign government."" Hardly State Secrets, given that the world and his wife (including Akhmedinejad) know that it is an integral part of the Republican agenda. Possibly you might get him on giving aid and comfort to the enemy though, since Akhmedinejad is probably still laughing his head off. Don T. |
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29 Jul 12 - 07:51 PM (#3383428) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Ebbie sheeeesh You Brits seem to think that we Americans don't understand Brits' humour(sic) or practically anything else about you; has it ever occurred to you that you don't understand Americans? There is a LOT more to us than what you prefer to see. Frankly, I'm tired of the not-so-subtle shiv in the ribs. Not that I'm sensitive or anything. |
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29 Jul 12 - 11:12 PM (#3383486) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: katlaughing It get tedious, huh, Ebbie? Don Firth, I think you will find GY Morris was "taking the piss"...winding you up a bit. Not an excuse, just an observation from an American. |
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29 Jul 12 - 11:20 PM (#3383490) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: MGM·Lion I gather, from the latest Daniel Pipes Mid-East bulletin sent me by friend in Santa Monica, that the Israelis much preferred what Romney had to say to them re US-Israel relations than what they have recenly been hearing from Obama. One can imagine at least two diametrically opposed opinions within the US as to that. ~M~ |
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30 Jul 12 - 05:25 AM (#3383549) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Penny S. When I looked up that quote about us having potentially been taken over by the Nazis were it not for the Channel (and there's so many other what ifs if that had been true, that it ill behoves any WASP American to go down that road), he did go on to say that despite being small and so on, we had had a major empire. Not sure if he thought that was a good thing, but it did seem a bit of rhetorical opposition of ideas, and not so anti-Brit as the first part implied. But, if we (stressed) are a degenerate second class nation, what does the world have to worry about from a degenerate first class nation? Given that there is so much that is good about the USA, about its founding documents, and its so many thoughtful, generous and open-minded people, how are we expected to react when a bunch of over-financed, under-educated holders of ideas which came out of the Ark (or which they think came out of the Ark) get to run it and all its weaponry? (Small and local or earth-threatening.) And our bankers hold fundraisers for the guy!!! I almost wish I hadn't switched from Barclays for some pettifogging faults some time back, so I could do it more publicly now. Are there rules about foreign money being used in election campaigns over there? Penny |
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30 Jul 12 - 05:46 AM (#3383554) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Big Al Whittle Thing is Ebbie, it looks hideously unsubtle to us. We got used to American politicians of both parties queuing up to shake hands with Adams and McGuinness when they were planning murder and assassinating 'legitimate targets' - like policemen, prison officers, English soldiers, people who made an English soldier a cup of tea. They were going after the Irish vote. Now this character is after the Jewish vote. Thatcher did that sort of thing. Made racist remarks to go after the fascist vote in England. Its hard not to despise politicians like that. Plus the fact that the Repulican parties election campaign is funded by the armament industry - and that's the real reason for no gun control on the streets in America, and these damn stupid wars which haven't been thought out - like what to do if we win? Pick the sublety out of this situation. I can't see it. |
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30 Jul 12 - 09:38 AM (#3383629) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: GUEST,Peter Laban More unsubtlety: Mitt Romney speech in Israel offends |
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30 Jul 12 - 09:56 AM (#3383639) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: GUEST,999 "Romney and his entourage later left for a brief visit to Poland." [Last line of the article Peter linked.] Romney goes from strength to strength. It wouldn't surprise me to learn he's trying to broker a deal to get an exchange going whereby Poland exports hams to Israel and 'Palestine' in exchange for advice on how Poland and Russia can achieve a permanent peace. |
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30 Jul 12 - 12:14 PM (#3383684) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: GUEST,Peter Laban Well, no, worse. Romney expected to return to Cold War rethoric during speech in Poland |
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30 Jul 12 - 12:31 PM (#3383690) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Ebbie "I'm tired of the not-so-subtle shiv in the ribs. I referred to the Brits' weaponry. |
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30 Jul 12 - 01:18 PM (#3383711) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Donuel Mitt the Twit had a fit with the Brits He said his bit with a CEO twist but got buggered with a big public fist. |
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30 Jul 12 - 01:23 PM (#3383713) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: GUEST,999 Ah yeah! |
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30 Jul 12 - 01:26 PM (#3383715) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Big Al Whittle I think ,ost English people love America most of the time. Marin guitars, Gibson, Fender, Leiber and Stoler, Westerns, Rogers and Hammerstein, Charlie Bir parker, Rev Gary davis... our devotion is immeasurable.... But you gotta admit this guy you've sent over is a bit of a twat. He reminds me of Thatcher. people like that are scary. After some terrorist outrage - she'd say I'D like to reintroduce capital punishment for terrorists. I'm against CP anyway. But the prospect was doubly unthinkable - Peace vigils, increased contributions to IRA funds, death row scenarios.... Its a sort of populism. Interesting that both Bush the Younger and Romney were draft dodgers when it came to putting their own lives on the line in the battlefield. there was nothing really to stop the Blessed margaret becoming a WAC either. |
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30 Jul 12 - 01:53 PM (#3383737) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Greg F. you gotta admit this guy you've sent over is a bit of a twat. Hey, I haven't sent him over, Al - I'd be ashamed to. And you're wrong about his being a bit of a twat. He's the 14 karat, original, classic dictionary definition of a twat. With bells on. |
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30 Jul 12 - 02:26 PM (#3383757) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: McGrath of Harlow has it ever occurred to you that you don't understand Americans? So far |
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30 Jul 12 - 02:37 PM (#3383763) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Ebbie Oh, please. Could we make that "twit"? |
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30 Jul 12 - 02:46 PM (#3383770) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Richard Bridge I thought many Jews might find Romney's caricature of them as Fagin offensive too. |
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30 Jul 12 - 02:47 PM (#3383771) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Dave Hanson No Ebbie, he's a twat. Dave H |
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30 Jul 12 - 03:21 PM (#3383783) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Don Firth Er—I think there is a difference between the way British and Americans use that term, but I won't go into the matter in any detail at the moment. Ahem! Somehow, Mitt the Twit reminds me of something a friend of mine said about a pop singer of some years ago named Anita Bryant. She managed to turn practically every song she sang into a fundy Christian hymn by changing words here and there. And she became positively livid when Dade County, Florida (where she lived) passed a law making it illegal to discriminate against anyone on the basis of sexual orientation. Basically, she wanted all gays and Lesbians to be taken out and summarily slain, which, she maintained, was the Christian thing to do as prescribed in the Bible (Did Jesus ever say anything like that? I don't think so!). In one of her diatribes, she justified her position by claiming, "God has his hand on me!" At which point, my friend said, "No, I don't think so. Because if God had His hand on her, it would be over her big, fat mouth!!" Somehow that came back to me when I started hearing about Romney's little bon mots. Rather than the "T-word," might I suggest "dork?" Granted, it doesn't have the advantage of rhyming with "Mitt," but the definition seems to fit quite well. American/Canadian slang for a quirky, silly and/or stupid, socially inept person, or one who is out of touch with contemporary trends. Often confused with "nerd" and "geek," but does not imply the same intellectual proclivity.Don Firth |
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30 Jul 12 - 03:34 PM (#3383787) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: GUEST "There is a LOT more to us than what you prefer to see. Frankly, I'm tired of the not-so-subtle shiv in the ribs." Well, tough titties (as we say here). I don't mean that in an insulting way, it's simply that if what the world sees of your country is based around belligerent foreign policy, religious fanaticism, climate change denial, past oppressions that not apologised for, belligerent corporate governance and just about everything else that comes with empire, including non-accountability for deaths during military incursions in far away lands. The English know full well how that feels, and we're not all bad, even though the empire was British, not soley English. We pay for the sins of our fathers. Thing is, if people who have never been to the US believe everything they see on the telly they'll soon forget the good stuff, even though there's plenty to shout about. Luckily, I've spent enough time in the US out in the sticks to get some insight into a resourceful, intelligent, curious and unfailingly polite people who get things done. It's a shame everyone's so isolationist, but if I lived in the US I would never want to leave as there is so much room, so much to enjoy, so much to see. I'm pleased to say some of the people in my life I have the greatest respect for are Americans, and I can't wait to get back there and see them again later in the year. One thing though, you've got to stop giving wankers like Romney any credence; the man is dangerous, and as thick as a baboon's arse and does the US no favours. He's off to Poland to rekindle the cold war now. Stone the crows. |
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30 Jul 12 - 03:35 PM (#3383789) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: GUEST,Sugarfoot Jack That was me above - me cookie's gone awol. |
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30 Jul 12 - 03:40 PM (#3383791) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: GUEST,999 Anita Bryant paid for her transgressions, too. The Florida Citrus Commission got rid of her. Her kids suffered because when they had teeth come out and put them under their pillows, well the tooth fairy wouldn't show up. Rocky times back in the day. |
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30 Jul 12 - 03:52 PM (#3383797) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Don Firth I definitely agree with your last paragraph, Jack. That's why I'm working my butt off to get Obama re-elected. Now, I'm not that fond of Obama, based on what he has accomplished--or failed to accomplish--so far. BUT I am fully aware that he has had to buck a hard-nosed Republican Congress that is hell-bent on seeing his policies fail. Unfortunately, there are no really viable alternatives, so as I see it, Obama is my candidate. The tricks at this point are, 1) get Obama re-elected, and 2) get some of those Republican obstructionists out of Congress so Obama can actually DO something. I can't do much about the latter in my home state, because both of my Senators and my Congressional Representative are good, solid Progressive Democrats, and only Maria Cantwell, one of our senators, is up for re-election. And she's fine, so I'm supporting her. Don Firth |
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30 Jul 12 - 04:11 PM (#3383805) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Don Firth Yeah, Bruce, I remember Anita Bryant getting bit on the ass by the "little orange bird" (logo of the Florida Citrus Commission) for generally making a total--yeah, "dork" will work in this case--of herself. She was fairly popular during a time when I worked for a brief time as a disc jockey in a pop music radio station and I had to play some of her records. I would sit there (with the mic switch off) and mutter and writhe at how her "Chrisianizing" would butcher the otherwise good songs she was singing. Nice singng voice. Too bad she was born without a brain. Don Firth |
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30 Jul 12 - 04:13 PM (#3383806) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: McGrath of Harlow There's a lunatic fringe of people with all kinds of nasty political and social beliefs in every country. The trouble is that in some times and places that fringe stops being a fringe and turns into a mainstream - and the impression we get is that this is on the edge of being the situation once again in the USA. A major party with enormous power, and with a significant chance of winning the presidency, and it appears certifiably crazy. It's frightening. |
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30 Jul 12 - 04:31 PM (#3383814) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Ebbie I give Romney no credence whatever, if by that you mean: firm belief in the integrity, ability, effectiveness, or genuineness of someone or something (online thesaurus). I don't consider him to have integrity or genuineness; I would hope that I never gave anyone cause to think that I do. The part I tire of is the piling on by Mudcatters who should know better on any of many different issues regarding Americans in general and certain Americans in particular. They all seem to end with "Oh no, we are not referring to you; we have met many good, decent, friendly, thinking Americans..." It makes one - specifically me - want to attack all things British and then weasel out with the smarmy cop out. I think Brits would do well to keep in mind that we Americans, as a country and a culture (don't start) or dynamic, if you will, are a diverse lot and have been from the start. MUCH more so than the tamed, domesticated, emasculated, old nations across the waters. (Oh, but I don't mean you; I have met many good, decent, friendly, thinking Brits...) |
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30 Jul 12 - 05:18 PM (#3383825) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: McGrath of Harlow George Orwell once wrote "England is a family with the wrong members in control." That tends to be true enough of most countries most of the time, including the USA. |
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30 Jul 12 - 06:16 PM (#3383849) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Greg F. I think, Ebbie, it would be well for you to remember that what happens in the U.S. and what the U.S. government does or does NOT do directly impacts the residents of the British Isles --- and for that matter, the rest of the nations of the world. Oh - and its "British" not "Brit" unless you're trying to be a twa...ooops! make that twit. This from a "Yank" |
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30 Jul 12 - 07:01 PM (#3383867) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Big Al Whittle Racial stereotypes..... Cor Lummy Guv'nor....you know us English are far too repressed and and stuck up, to discuss such intimate matters after only a brief acqaintance! We've not been introduced. Now if I were Trevor Howard and you were Celia Johnson, I'd travel with you to the end of the world....... As it is I'll travel to the end of time, knowing that we passed up our chance for a passionate and carefree life together - to return to our humdrum existences. Our little lives, our very little lives..... So try to be sorry for us in our Englishness, and little decancies, and warm beer, and the soft thud of leather on willow over on a summer night on the village green.... We really are frighfully decent in many ways. Oh so many funny little ways..... |
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30 Jul 12 - 07:05 PM (#3383868) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Don Firth True, indeed, Kevin! It appears to be a world-wide problem. I would remind some of our British friends here that they tend to be dealing a bit in stereotypes with their jibes at Americans. That is, Americans in general—often with, as Ebbie pointed out, quickly inserting the disclaimer, "Oh, but I'm not talking about you!" Once again, I think it needs to be said, at the risk of being repetitious, that "Americans" do not constitute a monolith. Jaysus! look at all the political fanging and clawing going on in this country! It is unwise to deal in stereotypes. One stereotype of Americans that appears to be popular with some of our British friends seems to be something like THIS. Be it noted that there are Americans who think that's just about right! But then there are stereotypes of "Brits" as well, one of which is THIS. Stereotypes are essentially caricatures, and a good caricature is based on elements that really are there. But times change, and insisting on hanging on to the same old stereotype tends to lead one to prejudiced thinking, which is the foundation of bigotry. Don Firth |
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30 Jul 12 - 08:03 PM (#3383887) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Bill D What Ebbie & Don Firth said! Gratuitous generalization NEVER is a good idea. |
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30 Jul 12 - 10:25 PM (#3383921) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Ebbie OK, now. I feel *much* better now. :) |
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30 Jul 12 - 10:30 PM (#3383923) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Bobert Seems that Mitt is 0-2 and hoping for 1-2... All he has to do in Poland is not tell any "Polish jokes"... I donno if he call pull it off... B~ |
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31 Jul 12 - 07:18 AM (#3384018) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: McGrath of Harlow Virtually all stereotypes tell the truth, but only part of the truth, and typically not the most important part of the truth. |
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31 Jul 12 - 09:12 PM (#3384376) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Ebbie, I'm sorry that you should take my comments to be generalisations about all Americans. They certainly aren't meant that way. My comments are aimed at the specific types which do the USA so much harm. Those who call the French surrender monkeys and mean it, if they got the idea from British sources, are indeed missing the subtleties of British humour. Mitt Romney is indeed a brain dead boor, whose visit we could easily have managed without, and whose utterances are utterly lacking in subtlety, tact and intelligence. The thing we least understand is how you seem to elect such to govern your country on a more or less regular basis. I have a great deal of respect for most of the US population, except for their somewhat suspect taste in representatives. Don T. |
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01 Aug 12 - 12:45 AM (#3384453) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Jack the Sailor If they did, Ebbie, then once again they missed the subtleties of UK humour. It's pretty easy to figure out Brit "humour." They actually mean the insult until someone gets offended. Then they use retroactive Romney magic and the insult becomes a joke. Sprinkle in some faux indignation and some condescending bullshit about how "sophisticated" the humour is in the home of Benny Hill and Mr. Bean and viola! C'est ca! |
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01 Aug 12 - 03:24 AM (#3384473) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Richard Bridge Well, he seems to have escaped Poland without more of a gaffe than an aide swearing at the press for asking questions. |
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01 Aug 12 - 03:30 AM (#3384476) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: MGM·Lion I've heard of Benny Hill and Mr Bean; but who is this Viola, Jack? ~M~ |
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01 Aug 12 - 07:06 AM (#3384520) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Retroactive eh? Naah, just 800 more years of joking has made that kind of humour part of the British character. You should catch up around 2612 Jack. Don T. |
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01 Aug 12 - 08:15 AM (#3384540) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Musket You know, the main problem I have with this guy, speaking as an outsider who being British not American, has no say in the election, is how he may pan out on the world stage. The world expects homophobia, tea party pandering, state murder remaining on the statute book, creationism taught as science and fear of reds under the bed... However, such speeches are for domestic fodder. Nobody bats an eyelid outside of The USA, but set foot on foreign soil and the world's media is looking for a statesman. Not statesman as in a citizen of the states, but as in statesmanlike behaviour. Calling Jerusalem the capital of Israel, hinting that some races have a higher calling than others in the same speech... At least Dubya had the benefit of being seen as a fool. This bloke is dangerous... |
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01 Aug 12 - 08:30 AM (#3384546) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: McGrath of Harlow They actually mean the insult until someone gets offended. In the case of Romney (or of course Dubya before him) any offence is of course quite intended. When it comes to national stereotypes, such as tfor the French or the Americans, it's not normally intended to offend. |
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01 Aug 12 - 08:40 AM (#3384551) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Big Al Whittle Don - like it or not - we seem to have upset someone. |
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01 Aug 12 - 08:46 AM (#3384555) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Big Al Whittle And that's not good. After we started it We sent them Russell Brand. How they must hate that! The biggest turd on the planet! |
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01 Aug 12 - 10:08 AM (#3384606) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Stu "It's pretty easy to figure out Brit "humour. . . Then they use retroactive Romney magic and the insult becomes a joke. Sprinkle in some faux indignation and some condescending bullshit about how "sophisticated" the humour is in the home of Benny Hill and Mr. Bean and viola!" My god man, take an aspirin and sit down. Also, don't go for the low-hanging fruit, there's enough of that for everyone. |
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01 Aug 12 - 10:37 AM (#3384613) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Richard Bridge Stiff upper lip Al. But I must say - sending someone Russell Brand. Wizard wheeze what? So long as he wasn't sent to Manuel. |
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01 Aug 12 - 11:48 AM (#3384644) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Stu "I 'ad one of them yanks in the back of me cab the ovver day right, and I says to 'im I says summit about mr effin' bean bein' on the old olympics on the telly right and 'im not being very funny an all and he says to me he says you brits are right up yer own arses you lot is cos you invented monty pyfon and fools and 'orses and four candles like and I says to 'im I says listen me old china you got nuffin to feel so sore about cos you go that arrested development and them simpsons and that grumpy bald bloke and the office wot we gives you of course but you made yer own and great and stuff so wot you gettin' so effin' stroppy about mush but he didn't larf just kept his norf and sarf shut until goodge street and anyway stone the crows but I also had that keith chegwin in right after that and I says to 'im I says you know who i just 'ad in here me old mucker and he says who and I says that mitt effin' romney moanin' on about our sense of humour I told 'im straight I said listen mate . . . " |
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01 Aug 12 - 01:46 PM (#3384702) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Backwoodsman "I would remind some of our British friends here that they tend to be dealing a bit in stereotypes with their jibes at Americans." "Stereotypes are essentially caricatures, and a good caricature is based on elements that really are there. But times change, and insisting on hanging on to the same old stereotype tends to lead one to prejudiced thinking, which is the foundation of bigotry." But you make yourselves such easy targets........! :-) :-) |
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01 Aug 12 - 02:23 PM (#3384730) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Jack the Sailor "When it comes to national stereotypes, such as tfor the French or the Americans, it's not normally intended to offend. " That's what I said. I thought I was being clear enough. It is meant to be a demeaning stereotypical statement largely true in the eyes of the speaker about the other person or country. Once someone else notices and takes offense, it retroactively becomes a joke. |
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01 Aug 12 - 02:37 PM (#3384738) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Big Al Whittle If you have to explain a joke..... Just leave it. They don't get it. We've upset them. Not their fault, not our fault. But there's no point in insisting that a jokes funny. the situation has no possibilities. There once was a fellow called Mitt The jokes all about him were shit His defects were various I found him hilarious That must be because I'm a Brit. |
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01 Aug 12 - 02:43 PM (#3384740) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Jack the Sailor "Cheese eating surrender monkeys" is a wonderful example. Some people on this thread seem to think that line was a joke about how Americans look at the French. But in context, it was obviously a jibe at the way that Brits look at the French. After all it was spoken by a British character. I think the most telling thing is how many jokes the French have about the Brits. Almost none so far as I know. Ever since 1066 when they sent William over to civilize y'all, you haven't even been interesting enough to jest about. They joke about the North Americans, (can they even tell English Canadians from Americans?), the Italians, the Germans, even French Canadians and Cajuns get more jokes than the Brits. They prefer to ridicule peoples worthy of fear and respect. But aside from your soccer hooligans, they hardly give you Brits a second thought. Even their jokes about English dental hygiene are recycled from Jay Leno. Oh yeah, when discussing British "humour", one phrase always bears repeating. Benny Hill Benny Hill Benny Hill Benny Hill Benny Hill Benny Hill Benny Hill Benny Hill !!! |
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01 Aug 12 - 02:45 PM (#3384742) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Jack the Sailor Big AL, that is exactly the point. We DON'T have to have your "jokes" explained to us. The only pity is that you think that you are joking. |
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01 Aug 12 - 02:52 PM (#3384745) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Richard Bridge Nonsense. I know a French woman who expostulates "You English and your fucking square cheese". Why do you think they call us "les Rosbifs"? Sorry Jack, you don't get it. You don't even know recent American events as well as Greg F. I don't suppose you'll get it until there are forward gears on an Italian tank. |
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01 Aug 12 - 03:21 PM (#3384760) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Charmion I'm going to do the Canadian thing here and ask you lot to go to your respective corners and come out fighting fair. So far, this thread consists largely of variants on "That's not funny" and "Yes it is, you just don't get it." I don't get it, and I don't think it's funny. And I know lots of French jokes about English people. They tend to begin, "Les têtes-carrées ..." |
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01 Aug 12 - 03:39 PM (#3384772) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Penny S. Anyone who still believes the Normans were a civilising influence has been reading the wrong histories. Or believes civilisation lies in exploiting indigenous populations, destroying vernacular religious and scientific literature, reducing free women to chattels, basing life on perpetual warfare, and fearing the locals so much that they have to live behind fortress walls and impose draconian punishments on non-involved civilians if any of the colonial invaders are harmed. As the Normans did. |
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01 Aug 12 - 03:46 PM (#3384778) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: McGrath of Harlow That's what I said. I thought I was being clear enough. It wasn't what you said, Jack. For one thing you assume national stereotypes are necessarily demeaning. Much of the time they are affectionate, sometimes even there's an element of admiration. Finding something funny doesn't stop you from loving it. That can be even more true when it comes to people and the differences between people. That's what holds most marriages together. |
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01 Aug 12 - 05:35 PM (#3384820) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Jack the Sailor >>Or believes civilisation lies in exploiting indigenous populations, destroying vernacular religious and scientific literature, reducing free women to chattels, basing life on perpetual warfare, and fearing the locals so much that they have to live behind fortress walls and impose draconian punishments on non-involved civilians if any of the colonial invaders are harmed. << Pretty much a summary of English history from 1066 to when they lost their empire, don't you think? Ask the Scotts, or the Irish, or Indians, or the people the called Indians who weren't... >>"Nonsense. I know a French woman who expostulates "You English and your fucking square cheese". Why do you think they call us "les Rosbifs"?"<< Well of course, she said those things to YOU!! She was being polite!! "It wasn't what you said, Jack. For one thing you assume national stereotypes are necessarily demeaning. Much of the time they are affectionate, sometimes even there's an element of admiration. " >>Yeah... keep telling yourself that. Here is a challenge. List ten ways the French are more admirable than the English.<< |
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01 Aug 12 - 06:11 PM (#3384838) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Richard Bridge The British Empire suppressed scientific literature? Historical, sometimes, but scientific? The British Empire reduced free women to chattel status? And I think the only hostage punishments were probably against the Boers - who still poison the country they colonised. |
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01 Aug 12 - 06:12 PM (#3384839) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Richard Bridge The US on the other hand... |
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01 Aug 12 - 06:29 PM (#3384844) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: McGrath of Harlow List ten ways the French are more admirable than the English. In general I tend to admire the French much more than the English, even if they aren't quite as funny. I think it's a great shame that the English came out on top in the matter of shaping the future of North America and other parts of the planet. But they are still pretty funny. |
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01 Aug 12 - 06:32 PM (#3384848) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Jack the Sailor >>The British Empire suppressed scientific literature? Historical, sometimes, but scientific?<< The British Empire suppressed everything that was not British.... I think. >>>The British Empire reduced free women to chattel status? <<< Yes, then took them from Africa to their plantations in "the New World." |
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01 Aug 12 - 07:25 PM (#3384862) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Big Al Whittle Oh bugger! We've been tumbled! How ever did they work it out that we tell jokes that aren't funny. We're just pretending to laugh, because the real buzz is making snotty remarks! How ever will we be able to hold our head up amongst nations again? |
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01 Aug 12 - 07:43 PM (#3384866) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Jack the Sailor Finally! ;-) I am sorry to have been the one to tell you. But I drew the short straw! |
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02 Aug 12 - 03:58 AM (#3384954) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Stu whooooooooooooooosh! |
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02 Aug 12 - 04:57 AM (#3384978) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Penny S. I was well aware of echoes in what I wrote, and that they often apply to the British (post Norman, except for Wales), but I was careful in drafting that response. Those things applied, and still apply, to others than the Normans, and not only in Europe, and not only nation states. Penny |
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02 Aug 12 - 05:29 AM (#3384986) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Rob Naylor Penny S: Anyone who still believes the Normans were a civilising influence has been reading the wrong histories. Ditto for anyone who believes the Normans were French! There's a clue in the name! They were basically transplanted Vikings, backed up in their invasion by a bunch of Bretons (who were originally Brits transplanted to Armorica at the end of the Roman period). There were hardly any Frenchmen in William The Bastard's army in 1066! (Incidentally, when and why did "a l' Armoricaine" become "a l' Americaine"?). |
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02 Aug 12 - 07:48 AM (#3385016) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Big Al Whittle you can't judge people who lived a thousand years ago by contemporary standards. the Normans were probably grooving round in their tin hats chasing after Robin Hood and doing their best. |
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02 Aug 12 - 08:57 AM (#3385029) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Penny S. In that case, we can drop all that what the Brits did stuff, can't we? And did I say they were French? Once, when I was off school, I found myself watching a history programme, in which the English spoke Old English with the proper accent, and subtitles, and bits of it were just about comprehensible. The Normans spoke what I assume was Norman-French, which was impossible to follow any of. The Scandinavian accent was so thick that it completely hid any sort of French that was uttered. I don't know how they obtained the footage. And as for the standards of the time, they were laid down by the church (not without fault itself), and attempted to limit what we would call war crimes. By those standards, the law whereby, if a Norman were killed, and the locals did not turn over the killer, ten innocent people would be executed, fails completely. Penny |
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02 Aug 12 - 05:04 PM (#3385279) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Richard Bridge Slavery has always been unlawful at English common law. End of. |
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02 Aug 12 - 05:11 PM (#3385281) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Big Al Whittle England has never held it against you if you've got a funny accent. We have these people called traditional folksingers who sing in ever such strange voices. Of course, no one much listens to them - but I've never heard of them being discriminated against - made to sit at the back of the bus, nothing like that. As for the Normans - all is forgiven and forgotten in the mists of time. And they don't hold Robin Hood and Kevin Costner against us. No denying - they got a bad press at the time - and they've cluttered up England with churches. But we've had time to get over the trauma. 10 nice things about the French 1) They gave Oscar Wilde a home when England was beastly to him. 2) They work hard at making cheese - over two hundred different kinds. One day they'll get round to cheddar. 3) French knickers 4) French kissing 5) Pernod 6) Lots of artists live there - Picasso and Van Gogh - so it must have have something. 7) The French people (and the Dutch) were nice to my Dad when he drove a tank across their countries in in 1944. 8) Samois - the best guitar music festival in the world. 9) French films - A bout de souffle 10) Charles Trenet - La mer 11) English songs about France - Wizz Jones National Seven and Ralph McTell's Grande Affaire. |
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03 Aug 12 - 03:39 AM (#3385462) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Richard Bridge I thought Nationale 7 Was Jansch or maybe Renbourn. |
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03 Aug 12 - 03:48 AM (#3385466) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Big Al Whittle They both had a stab at it - but I think it was Wizz, who wrote it and did the definitive version. Great song - not for the faint hearted. You really need to have a better 'Broonzy thumb' than I've got. |
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03 Aug 12 - 05:03 AM (#3385488) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Penny S. What about Edith Piaf? Penny |
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03 Aug 12 - 05:11 AM (#3385493) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Big Al Whittle no she didn't write it. |
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03 Aug 12 - 01:00 PM (#3385641) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: YorkshireYankee French bread FRENCH PASTRIES!!! mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... |
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03 Aug 12 - 03:23 PM (#3385712) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Musket French letter? |
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03 Aug 12 - 06:49 PM (#3385823) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Big Al Whittle avoirdupois YY! |
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04 Aug 12 - 02:17 AM (#3385901) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Rob Naylor Big Al: 2) They work hard at making cheese - over two hundred different kinds. One day they'll get round to cheddar. Actually, as of about 2007, the UK makes more types of cheese than France does. Not including the silly ones manufactured by mashing cranberries walnuts or apricots into cheddar, etc. There's been an explosion in British "artisan" cheesemaking over the the last 15 years or so. I can now get over 30 varieties of small-scale artisan cheese which is made within a 20 minute drive of where I live. Blessed be the cheesemakers!!!! |
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04 Aug 12 - 03:27 AM (#3385914) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Richard Bridge For they shall inherit the girth. |
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04 Aug 12 - 04:01 AM (#3385917) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Big Al Whittle 'Actually, as of about 2007, the UK makes more types of cheese than France does.' I'm not sure its something we should really encourage. Since we came to live in Dorset, Ive never seen so many different cheeses as they have at the local market. Got to face facts....lancashire, Cheshire, Cheddar, Red Leicester, Caerphilly.....its enough. This local Blue Vinny stuff, you couldn't even clean your bike with it. The smell is an environmental nightmare. Imagine a world smelling of that. Still, I suppose its better than them beating up old ladies....marginally. |
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04 Aug 12 - 09:38 AM (#3385981) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: McGrath of Harlow "There's been an explosion in British "artisan" cheesemaking over the the last 15 years or so." Sounds like a Wallace and Gromit episode. ....................... No one mentioned Georges Brassens. |
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04 Aug 12 - 09:57 AM (#3385988) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: Rob Naylor Or Jake Thackeray! |
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04 Aug 12 - 02:12 PM (#3386113) Subject: RE: BS: Mitt & the Brits From: YorkshireYankee Yes, Big Al, avoirdupois indeed! [sigh] Rob, I thought of mentioning Monsieur Thackeray, but he is un Anglais, n'est ce pas? |
