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what is a jolly jack tart

02 Sep 12 - 02:01 PM (#3399053)
Subject: what is a jolly jack tart
From: The Sandman

last night I was singing the song do me amma, after i finidhed the song a serious minded member of the adience asked me what is a jolly jack tart?
any suggestions appreciated


02 Sep 12 - 02:05 PM (#3399057)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: johncharles

A spelling mistake?


02 Sep 12 - 02:27 PM (#3399069)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: Dead Horse

Sounds to me like a sailors comforter :-)


02 Sep 12 - 02:36 PM (#3399078)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: RTim

A Mondegreen!!

Tim radford


02 Sep 12 - 02:52 PM (#3399094)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: Betsy

A sailor who has a habit of mincing around with his hand on his hip.


02 Sep 12 - 02:59 PM (#3399103)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: GUEST,Eliza

A pastry delicacy for cannibals with a salty flavour.


02 Sep 12 - 03:21 PM (#3399119)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: johncharles

google provides an answer
Jolly Jack Tart - An hilarious navy lark by Dixon Scott 30 Nov 2009

Jolly Jack Tart is a rollicking navy comedy written by national newspaper journalist Dixon Scott.
Scott served in the war-time navy for 3 years - mostly on the cruiser HMS Cumberland.
But he ended his service on a mine-sweeper, just like the hapless hero of his novel.
Jolly Jack Tart is a brilliant ocean-going bundle of laughs from beginning to end.


02 Sep 12 - 03:50 PM (#3399137)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: The Sandman

john charles, that sounds fairly mundaneeven by googles standards, i prefer elizas answer


02 Sep 12 - 03:51 PM (#3399139)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: EBarnacle

It is clearly an apple tart with Monterey jack cheese between the apples and the pastry base.


02 Sep 12 - 04:00 PM (#3399142)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: GUEST,wyrdolafr

A small dainty citrus cake made in the galley kitchens during the Napoleonic wars. The size of the serving was enough to help keep scurvy at bay.

Interestingly, this cake relates to the song 'the Handsome Cabin Boy'. The 'jolly' is actually a corruption of 'joli/e', being French for 'pretty' or 'nice' rather than 'jolly', and Jack is actually Jacques. It's basically 'Pretty Jack' tart.

#CallMyBluff


02 Sep 12 - 04:38 PM (#3399157)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: Steve Gardham

I was just about to plump for Eliza's when wyrdolafr's came in. I think DH's is a double bluff so I'm plumping for that. Okay, open your cards up.


02 Sep 12 - 04:48 PM (#3399162)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: GUEST,wyrdolafr

BLUFF


02 Sep 12 - 04:50 PM (#3399164)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: Steve Gardham

I knew it! Too clever by half to be true.


02 Sep 12 - 06:02 PM (#3399196)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: GUEST,raymond greenoaken

Part of the rider at nautical festivals. I enjoyed several at SeaFest recently.


03 Sep 12 - 02:16 AM (#3399333)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: Kit Griffiths

A Fisherman's Friend?


03 Sep 12 - 03:43 AM (#3399350)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: Rusty Dobro

Another name for a Rolling King?


03 Sep 12 - 05:26 AM (#3399386)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: Scabby Douglas

It's actually, as you might expect, a slightly corrupted nautical term.

On a sailing vessel with more than three masts, the aft-most and shortest mast was often referred to as the "jigger-mast" or sometime just contracted to "jig".

Because this mast was shorter hands assigned to work the smaller sails and less complex rigging were regarded as having a comparatively easy time of it, and were sarcastically described as jolly "jiggards" or "jiggarts" - which over time evolved into "Jack Tars"


03 Sep 12 - 03:09 PM (#3399567)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: Steve Gardham

Refresh. I've just tried about 20 times to post something to this thread. Bloodyt gremlins again!


03 Sep 12 - 03:13 PM (#3399569)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: Steve Gardham

21
Okay they're getting dafter so here goes.

'Jolly Jack' was a very successful commercially produced jig doll in the early 20th century. Songs were written about him and of course they had to supply a female version eventually.

Here's a verse from one of Jolly Jack's songs:

Here's to good old Jolly Jack,
He had a wooden heart
And head over heels in love he fell
With a lovely Jolly Jack tart.


03 Sep 12 - 03:13 PM (#3399570)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: Steve Gardham

YESSSSS!!!!!


04 Sep 12 - 10:04 AM (#3399941)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: Mo the caller

Of course you can supply authentication of that song Steve :)


04 Sep 12 - 11:45 AM (#3399985)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: GUEST,leeneia

It's a treacle tart flavored with apple-jack whiskey. The whiskey provided a little flavor at sea, where fresh apples are not to be found.


04 Sep 12 - 01:50 PM (#3400046)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: johncharles

Roud: soixante Neuf


04 Sep 12 - 02:08 PM (#3400052)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: Tattie Bogle

Position soixante neuf??


04 Sep 12 - 02:27 PM (#3400053)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: johncharles

Oui, mon petite tattie bogle.


04 Sep 12 - 03:18 PM (#3400078)
Subject: RE: what is a jolly jack tart
From: Steve Gardham

Of course I can, Mo.
Wrote it on Sunday, collected it on Monday. It's now part of the internet tradition. The tune BTW is Harry Clifton's Calico Printer's Clerk.