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03 Sep 12 - 09:55 PM (#3399752) Subject: Origins: strathallan eireann music group From: freddfish Howdy folks In the States, we have a show on our public radio station called The Thistle and Shamrock, hosted by Fiona Richie. She plays great music, by artists performing in the Celtic traditional styles, and the show has has been on the air for quite some time. It may be on the air in England-Scotland-Ireland as well, but I can't speak to that. Many years ago, I recorded a part of her show to a cassette tape, and captured some really nice stuff. One set of tunes in particular was called "o'er Hills O'er Mountains" and Richie credited it to a band called The Strathallan Eireann Music Group. It is a wonderful collection of songs that are meant to chronicle the Jacobite Rising from beginning to defeat. Lots of good pipe and whistle tunes matched up with some really stirring melodys. Well, the cassette is on it's last legs, so I figure no problem...I went on the Internet to see if I couldn't get the CD or perhaps an MP3 download from Amazon. It didn't show on Amazon at all, and a google search yielded nothing as well, to my surprise. It is like the group never existed. (key "Twilight Zone" theme music....) Ordinairily I would just blow this off and get something else, but this was some really good music that I would like to have around, and as I say, the tape is banjaxed. Has anyone heard of this band? Perhaps I am spelling the name wrong in my searches...fI am at a loss to figure this out. Any help tracking this band and CD down would be greatly appreciated. Take care, ya'll freddfish |
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04 Sep 12 - 08:55 AM (#3399909) Subject: RE: Origins: strathallan eireann music group From: GUEST,freddfish I listened to the tape again, since my first post. It COULD be The Strathallan Eireann Music Group, The Strathallan "Airley" Music Group, or The Strathallan "Early" Music Group. It is a tad hard for me to make out, as Fiona Ritchie has a pronounced Scottish accent, and I suspect something may have gotten garbled in the translation. |
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13 Mar 13 - 07:07 PM (#3489992) Subject: RE: Origins: strathallan eireann music group From: GUEST I live in Russia, I have the same problem. I can not find the music. Lost tapes. I heard it in 1990-92, the first time. I thought that the Internet would help, but no links. |
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13 Mar 13 - 09:16 PM (#3490045) Subject: RE: Origins: strathallan eireann music group From: GUEST There's just a mention here: http://www.scottishmusiccentre.com/catalogue/c34169/?action=backpage&scope=memplans |
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14 Mar 13 - 05:09 AM (#3490125) Subject: RE: Origins: strathallan eireann music group From: Gutcher Can"t say I"ve heard of it but as they are playing Jacobite tunes they are more likely to be called "The Airlie Music Group" or "The Strathallan Early Music Group" rather than "Eireann". Check out the Jacobite song "The Bonny Hoose O Airlie". This can be found sung by Belle Stewart and others on the Tober an Dualchais site. |
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14 Mar 13 - 07:04 AM (#3490168) Subject: RE: Origins: strathallan eireann music group From: GUEST,kenny Your'e in luck, folks. It is indeed "The Strathallan Early Music Group". I know this because it was my brother who made the tapes, and I'm sitting looking at 2 of them right now. You made mention of "O'er Hills, O'er Mountains", which was recorded in 1988. I also have "The Beggar's Meal Poke" which was recorded a year earlier on Dougie MacLean's "Dunkeld" label. The brains behind these projects, as I recall was a guitar player called Jo Lozowy, who I met years ago, but haven't seen in maybe 15 years. I don't know if these recordings ever made it onto CD - I'll ask my brother next time I speak to him, as he would probably have made the CDs as well. Alternatively, there is an address on the "O'er Hills..." tape which you could write to and ask. The address is : "Terpsichore Music", 4 Campbell Street, Coupar Angus, Perthshire PH13 9BW If you write to them, and the recordings are no longer available either on CD or tape, ask them if it would be OK for me to "Digitise" them onto a CD for you, and I'll do that. It may help if you say that the person making the offer is the brother of the guy who made the recordings for him in the first place. I'm not sure if Jo would remember me or not - it was a good while ago we met. Good luck, Kenny |
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22 Jun 14 - 07:36 PM (#3635801) Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group From: GUEST,stewart hi all . just came across your post and wondered if you could help find a old friend gregor young how also played some guitar and baraham on the beggars meal poke .. any help would be great thanks . stewart |
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29 Apr 17 - 03:53 PM (#3853044) Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group From: GUEST The group was called The Strathallen Early Music Group. The recording O'er the Hills, O're the Mountains in 1988. Originally available through Terpischore Music in Angus, Perthshire, Scotland. |
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31 Jul 18 - 02:11 PM (#3940676) Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group From: GUEST,GUEST,ingo I just digitized my cassettes, among them "Oer Hills O'er Mountains" and "The Beggars Meal Poke" from the "Strathallan Early Music Group", which I bought 1988 after a concert of this group in Pitlochry, Scotland. Since the insert of the first cassette contains no information of the complement, while the second contains no insert at all, I tried to find theese informations in the omniscient internet - with the same results as freddfish. The only find was this thread! And I read it with amazement. Perhaps freddfishs quest is now answered by Terpsichore Music in Coupar Angus, otherwise I could contribute some help for my cassettes are in good shape as well as the CD I made of them. Could anybody help me to find out complement of the group (Instruments, names) and the titles of the two recordings? |
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31 Jul 18 - 04:29 PM (#3940704) Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group From: GUEST,kenny "O'er The Hills, O'er Mountains" : Pamela Thorby - recorder Rachel Smith - violin Lorna Ogilvy - cello Gregor Young - percussion James Hume - guitar Jozef Lozowy - guitar .. and features on stage as narrator - Edward Jordan "The Beggar's Meal Poke" : Lucy Crispin - recorders / vocals Rachel Smith - violin Nikki Thaw - cello Gregor Young - percussion James Hume - guitar Jozef Lozowy - guitar / director Joanna Fagg - percussion / vocals |
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31 Jul 18 - 04:37 PM (#3940705) Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group From: GUEST,kenny Jo Lozowy also had a group called "Aon Brach", which released a cassette tape in 1992. That tape insert includes an address for "Caileach Music" which is as follows : 2 Paterson Drive, Blairgowrie, Perthshire, PH10 4HE, Scotland. I did a "Google" search for "Jozef Lozowy" and it would appear he may still be at the same address. Anyone wanting to make inquiries about "The Strathallan Early Music Group" could try writing to that address. Best of luck, Kenny. |
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31 Jul 18 - 05:20 PM (#3940708) Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group From: Jack Campin Pamela Thorby is now one of England's leading recorder players. I have a couple of her CDs (some are with the Palladian Ensemble). She's easy to track down. I thought about buying a used recorder from her once but didn't like it as much as I thought I would. |
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08 Aug 19 - 12:57 PM (#4003821) Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group From: GUEST,Chesko Gonzalez Hello, Joe Lozowy, the brain behind Strathgallan, is my step father and he would be glad to recover this cassettes because he hasn't got any copy. Please, if Kenny (or his brother or someone who has a copy of the cassettes) are reading my post, please contact me: Chesko Gonzalez email: chesko@plazaberlin.com Telephone number: 0049 15225850696 (wahssap) Please, it's very important for him. He is still living in Blairgowrie. Thanks in advance |
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10 Aug 19 - 05:18 AM (#4003946) Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group From: GUEST,kenny Very busy at the moment, but I will get back to you about this. Regards, Kenny |
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10 Aug 19 - 07:48 AM (#4003965) Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group From: GUEST,Chesko Gonzalez Thanks a lot, Kenny. I'd like to pay for them. I am looking forward to hearing from you. |
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15 Aug 19 - 11:57 AM (#4004647) Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group From: GUEST,kenny Email sent - please reply to let me know that you have received it. |
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03 Sep 19 - 10:23 AM (#4007139) Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group From: GUEST,kenny I sent 4 tapes to Joe this morning. He should receive them soon. All the best, Kenny |
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03 Sep 19 - 12:13 PM (#4007157) Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group From: GUEST,Jack Campin I just looked Thorby up, and got a page about ceramic art. She retired from recorder playing in 2016 and went potty. |
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16 Feb 24 - 06:47 PM (#4197347) Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group From: GUEST,Gavin McCord I know this is an old thread, but I was just wondering if anyone had the track listings for O'er Hills, O'er Mountains which was the second tape released, IIRC. I've actually got the compilation Blue Bonnets under the Aon Brach name but I preferred the earlier selection. I'd be up for a swap if anyone's interested. Gavin |
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17 Feb 24 - 02:20 AM (#4197365) Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group From: GUEST Can do - I'll get back to you. Must dash. |
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17 Feb 24 - 04:38 PM (#4197405) Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group From: GUEST,Kenny Side A 1 - "O'er Hills, O'er Mountains" - [ Andro Beck ] 2 - "This Is No My Ain Hoose / Blue Bonnets Across The Border [Trad.] 3 - Gavotta - Guiseppe Brescianello (Italian) 4 - "As She Cam Ben" [ Trad. ] 5 - "The Drunken Wives O' Carlisle" [ Attr. to Niel Gow ] 6 - "So Ben Mi Chi Ha Boun Tempo" - Cesare Negri [ Italian ] 7 - "Woodycock" [ Trad. ] 8 - "Prelude En Ray Minore" - [ Robert de Visee (French) ] 9 - "Black Eye'd Mary ( The Lament of Culloden ) [ Attr. to Tearlach O'Carolan ] Side B 1 - "The Highland Hunt" [ Trad. ] 2 - "Trojan Warriors" - Tobias Hume [ English ] |
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17 Feb 24 - 05:05 PM (#4197411) Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group From: GUEST,Kenny again Sorry - computer interrupted - as I was saying : 3 - "Rory Dall's Port" [ Attr. to Niel Gow ] 4 - Plainsong - [ Thomas Robinson ] ( Danish ) 5 - "A 'Aite Cheildh (Jean Urquhart's Air ) [ Jozef Lozowy ] 6 - "Clanranald's Reel" [ from the Niel Gow Collection ] 7 - "Ye Gods O' Love" - [ Attr. to Rory Dall ] 8 - "The Flooers O' Edinburgh / Reel - [ Trad. ] |
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17 Feb 24 - 07:24 PM (#4197427) Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group From: GUEST Wow! I hardly expected such a quick response. Many thanks. |
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29 Feb 24 - 01:17 PM (#4198271) Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group From: GUEST,John Ford I am also a keen fan of this group, and many, many years ago I contacted Fiona Ritchie (somehow, I forgot how) and she and her assistant were unable to even find the tape/CD of what they played on that episode of T&S. I still have the tape of T&S but have no idea where at the moment, and I never heard the full recordings, just those samples on T&S. But, it was some off the most inspiring music I ever heard in my life. If anyone can help "re-find" this music I'd love to have it. |
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07 Apr 24 - 03:22 PM (#4200581) Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group From: GUEST I just bought both tapes in an Edinburgh charity shop (along with three tapes of "Coronach"). Anybody local got a digitizing cassette player? |
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07 Apr 24 - 07:42 PM (#4200598) Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group From: Jack Campin That was me. |
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08 Apr 24 - 03:19 AM (#4200602) Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group From: GUEST,IS The Scottish Music Centre in Glasgow has the capacity to digitise a variety of analogue formats. Give them a call... |