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09 Oct 12 - 04:53 AM (#3416799) Subject: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: Will Fly Many, many years ago, I bought the complete Library of Congress recordings of Jelly Roll Morton - made by Alan Lomax in 1949 - and was totally fascinated by them. (Still am). Anyway, I was digging through some multi-tracked stuff I'd done about 10 years ago, and came across this track, which I'd done as a tribute to the great man. It's a few sentences of his voice, taen from the recordings, with some backing I played on keyboard and bass, with a drum machine and some synthesised alto sax and strings. The chord sequence is taken from Duke Ellington's "Flaming Sword", and the background strings are playing "Just A Closer Walk With Thee" - if you're interested! "Jelly Roll Morton" |
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09 Oct 12 - 08:26 AM (#3416879) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: Big Al Whittle quite excellent. will write full appreciation later. |
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09 Oct 12 - 12:05 PM (#3416966) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: fat B****rd 'Hello, central...give me Dr. Jazz' Will,this is great !! Have you done 'Winin' Boy' by any chance. Charlie |
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09 Oct 12 - 01:59 PM (#3417029) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: greg stephens smashing, nice one Mr Fly. And apropos fat B****rd's comment, here is my recent tribute to Jelly Roll Morton Wining Boy |
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09 Oct 12 - 03:01 PM (#3417051) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: Will Fly Have you done 'Winin' Boy' by any chance. Well - yes - as an instrumental... Winin' Boy |
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09 Oct 12 - 03:02 PM (#3417053) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: Will Fly Greg - forgot to add - wonderful YouTube clip from you - now that's what I call a session! |
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09 Oct 12 - 03:10 PM (#3417055) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: Bobert What instruments are you playing on ths, W-fly??? |
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09 Oct 12 - 03:13 PM (#3417059) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: Will Fly I'm actually playing bass and keyboards - i.e. the piano, synthesised sax track and synthesised strings track, with a programmed drum machine for the back beat. I copied Jelly's voice to mini-disc (remember them?) and inlaid the snippets as appropriate into the recording. |
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09 Oct 12 - 03:17 PM (#3417061) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: fat B****rd Thank you, gentlemen. I might even be inspired to learn it myself. |
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09 Oct 12 - 03:22 PM (#3417068) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: Will Fly Bobert - I used a Korg N1 keyboard (which I still have) to play the piano part, then added the sax sound and the strings sound by selecting them from the Korg palette. The drum machine is a Zoom, which can be programmed manually, so that track was laid down first. Then - if memory serves - I put down the main piano track and added the bass. Then I inlaid Jelly Roll snippets followed by the sax melody and finally the strings. The main work then went into getting the final mix as I wanted it... |
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09 Oct 12 - 03:25 PM (#3417071) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: Will Fly Charlie - some tabs for Winin' Boy available at: Will Fly's website - tabs page I haven't checked these over for some time so be afraid- be very afraid... :-) |
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09 Oct 12 - 03:27 PM (#3417073) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: olddude that is awesome Will |
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09 Oct 12 - 03:27 PM (#3417075) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: Will Fly And - finally - I've just put this YT video up with some visuals: "Jelly Roll Morton" on YouTube And now I'll shut up! |
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09 Oct 12 - 03:32 PM (#3417077) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: fat B****rd Many thanks,Will I promise to have a go. 'Ambitious fingers' Charlie Stenger |
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09 Oct 12 - 04:19 PM (#3417117) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: greg stephens Here is Mr Morton himself winin' away Winin' Boy Blues |
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10 Oct 12 - 08:07 AM (#3417443) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: GUEST,Tunesmith My only problem with Jelly Roll is that his vocal style was surely a rip-off of the wonderful George Melly! |
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10 Oct 12 - 08:23 AM (#3417451) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: Will Fly LOL! I met George a couple of times - we both used to haunt Dobell's record shop in the Charing Cross Road at lunchtimes in the late '60s - and he was a great fan of JRM. Humph used to call him "Bunny Bum". |
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10 Oct 12 - 09:36 AM (#3417481) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: alanabit A lot of fun as ever - which will be no surprise to anyone here! |
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10 Oct 12 - 02:09 PM (#3417611) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: Stringsinger It was very nice. Was the sax MIDI engendered? And the strings? The Alan Lomax interview has a special significance for early jazz in that Morton claimed to have invented it. His hubris was befitting his artistry at the time so he could get away with that claim. I love the Red Hot Peppers with the N.O. lineup. I was always a fan of Honore Dutrey since I used to play the trombone. |
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10 Oct 12 - 03:02 PM (#3417636) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: Will Fly The sax and string sections were played directly on the Korg N1 keyboard, using a couple of the 1,000 sounds in the memory bank of the Korg. The Korg was connected to my 10-channel mixer - and from there to my Roland 8-track. The sax melisma was obtained by using the pitch wheel on the Korg with my left hand while playing the melody with my right hand. The slightly difficult bit was getting Jelly Roll's voice on to the Roland. I copied the voice from vinyl to mini-disc with my Sony Discman player/recorder (I still have the very first model ever made) and then split the tracks into segments. Then I lined up the segments and pressed "Play" on the minidisc at the appropriate moment. The whole rhythm and tempo of the piece was actually dictated by, and based on the rhythm of Morton's speaking voice in the extract I used. One of the comments I had on YouTube yesterday was that it might have been a good idea to add some "scratch" throughout the track so that the crackle on Morton's voice didn't come in "with a whiplash effect" - which is a fair point. But too late to do now! I love Morton's music - I think he was a much maligned and misunderstood (and cheated) genius. He was a braggart, a pimp, a pool hustler and many other things - but he was also a superb pianist, a fantastic composer and a wonderful band arranger. I have all his recordings, as far as I know. and never tire of them. |
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10 Oct 12 - 04:25 PM (#3417688) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: greg stephens And the funny thing is that Lomax would never have recorded him if the very posh expatriate Brit Alistair Cooke hadn't persuaded him to. |
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10 Oct 12 - 04:27 PM (#3417690) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: Lonesome EJ Very well done, Will! Love it! |
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10 Oct 12 - 08:25 PM (#3417824) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: Big Al Whittle Yeh its good! Its got a New Orleans feel - but its more Allen Toussaint/Lee dorsey era that Jelly Roll Morton. I was quite an alienated 16 year old. My chemistry teacher used to try and humanise me by talking about jazz to me. he was a trombonist. I lent him Eddie Condon's auto biography and he gave me Mr Jelly Roll by John Lomax. I was trying to make sense of Ian Buchanan's guitar version of Winding Boy at the time. I was very naive and young for my age in some respects - i don't think I even had much knowledge of the basic mechanics of sexual intercourse - so Jelly Rolls tales of playing Tales from the Vienna Woods to punters as they were shagging away behind a partition in a New orleans bordello - seemed exotic to me, rather than sordid. It was very moving to hear his voice. Thank you Will. |
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11 Oct 12 - 03:47 AM (#3417957) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: GUEST,Tunesmith I've read/re-read a couple of books recently which are a must for Jelly Roll fans. Willie "the Lion" Smith's autobiography "Music on my Mind" paints a marvelous picture of a piano player's life back when the piano was truly king. Jelly Roll, of course, is remembered by Willie. The second book is called - something like - ""Louis Armstrong's "New Orleans"" and paints a marvelous evocative picture of that city when Louis was learning his trade and Jelly Roll was strutting around in all his magnificence! |
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11 Oct 12 - 04:29 AM (#3417967) Subject: RE: My tribute to Jelly Roll Morton From: Will Fly Alan Lomax, of course, did the biography, "Mr. Jelly Lord" - on my shelves somewhere - which relied very much on Morton's reminiscences and is therefore subject to some errors. Duck Baker gave me a very interesting monograph he'd done on Morton's origins, including data on his actual birth certificate, which actually puts him playing in New Orleans well after 1902, rather than the 1902 as spoken by Morton. Naturally, being the 'creator of jazz', Morton had to make himself older than he really was, bless him. When I played in the Jubilee Jazz Band in Brighton in the late 1970s/early '80s, we put together a version of Morton's "Sidewalk Blues" complete with introductory shouting, klaxon and whistle - great fun! "You're so dumb you should belong to the deaf and dumb society!" "I'm sorry, Boss - I got the Sidewalk Blues..." |