BS: Anyone watching election results???

06 Nov 12 - 09:23 PM (#3432109)
Subject: BS: Anyone watching election results???
From: Bobert

Hmmmmmm???/

Seems that there ain't much activity below the line tonight...

Could it be that folks are watching the election results or that marathon "I Love Lucy" rerun thing going on cable...

B;~)

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06 Nov 12 - 09:32 PM (#3432113)
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From: kendall

I just got a note from my friend, Angus King who is the projected winner in the race for the seat that Senator Snowe quit last Spring.
I knew he could do it.

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06 Nov 12 - 09:39 PM (#3432115)
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From: pdq

Romney is holding a 3%-6% lead in the popular vote.

Right about what I predicted at 5.9%.

He can still lose if a few "swing states" go the wrong way, but that is unlikely.

Democrats can be happy about the Senate which shows a possible blowout, even though many more Democrats were up this cycle.

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06 Nov 12 - 09:41 PM (#3432116)
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From: GUEST,999

First time in 30-ish years I've wished I had a TV.

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06 Nov 12 - 09:42 PM (#3432117)
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From: michaelr

Looks like Elizabeth Warren is winning. She would be a welcome voice of reason in the Senate.

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06 Nov 12 - 09:46 PM (#3432119)
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From: Bee-dubya-ell

Listenin' to NPR. No TV.

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06 Nov 12 - 09:54 PM (#3432122)
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From: Bobert

Angus King will caucus with the dems... Lizzie Warren took out Scott Brown... The Dem in Indiana beat Mourdock...

I'm wrong... The Dems are going to take 2-3 more seats in the Senate...

Obama ain't gonna have the dream Senate but he's gonna have a better one...

Things lookin' good for Dems...

B~

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06 Nov 12 - 10:20 PM (#3432130)
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From: Ron Davies

PA called for Obama. NH called for Obama. Both states Romney had hopes for.

CO senator says CO will go for Obama--have no idea what his logic is.

Could be a long night--unless OH is called for Obama. If so, Romney's path gets very narrow.

Romney's crowd at his HQ is subdued at this point.

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06 Nov 12 - 10:20 PM (#3432131)
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From: Lonesome EJ

;>)

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06 Nov 12 - 10:21 PM (#3432133)
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From: Ron Davies

NM just called for Obama.

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06 Nov 12 - 10:22 PM (#3432135)
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From: ragdall

Raises hand
We're watching, Bobert, but not constantly.

999,
No TV needed, the major networks are all on your computer. You aren't missing much on the TV. The TV is full of talking heads, who are, well... just talking. I doubt that the numbers will be in until after midnight PST.

rags

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06 Nov 12 - 10:32 PM (#3432144)
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From: Bill D

Yep... watching- knowing the west coast is pretty safe and Mitt would need 6 of the 7 battleground states.

Looks pretty good so far.

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06 Nov 12 - 10:33 PM (#3432146)
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From: Ron Davies

WI called for Obama

Elizabeth Warren wins in MA.   That was not a slam-dunk--even in a Democratic state.    Scott Brown knew how to tailor his appeal.   And she had some baggage.

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06 Nov 12 - 10:36 PM (#3432148)
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From: number 6

No .... just taking a break from some photo editing work for a project I have been assigned ... to me that is more meaningful than the Amerikan election. I should say I find the Madcat and to be more entertaining than the politikal machine.

After all ... after the hooopala dies down things will remain the same old,same old mess ... let's face it kids, whomever wins will be controlled by the corporate/miltary oligarchy that's been running the show since around the Reagan days.

Well ... back to my work.

biLL .... ;)

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06 Nov 12 - 10:38 PM (#3432151)
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From: Don Firth

Watching now. Back later.

Don Firth

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06 Nov 12 - 10:40 PM (#3432154)
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From: Henry Krinkle

number 6. Another sensible 'catter.
=(:-( ))

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06 Nov 12 - 10:44 PM (#3432155)
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From: Stilly River Sage

I have been going back and forth, radio and TV. NPR goes to the local station and we have a hotly contested local race to listen for news of. PBS is just national, but I listen there because I don't want to fool with the local commercial network stations.

That said, I'm going to give the news a time out and watch a movie, just to do something totally non-political this evening.

SRS

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06 Nov 12 - 10:48 PM (#3432157)
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From: Bobert

Big night for Dems...

B~

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06 Nov 12 - 10:54 PM (#3432160)
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From: Lonesome EJ

McCaskill retains her seat against Mr Legitimate Rape

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06 Nov 12 - 10:57 PM (#3432162)
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From: Ron Davies

Obama now ahead in FL.   Talking heads say if Romney loses FL, he's dead in the water.

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06 Nov 12 - 11:06 PM (#3432164)
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From: Lonesome EJ

West Coast polls are closed, CNN projections coming fast now. I believe this will be called for Obama within an hour

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06 Nov 12 - 11:15 PM (#3432168)
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From: Phil Cooper

I figure I'll hear on the news who won, when I'm heading to the day job at 4:30 am.

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06 Nov 12 - 11:16 PM (#3432169)
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From: Ron Davies

CA, WA called for Obama

IA also.


And, just now OH.    If that holds, that's the end.

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06 Nov 12 - 11:16 PM (#3432170)
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From: ragdall

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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06 Nov 12 - 11:16 PM (#3432171)
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From: GUEST,Lighter

Fox News Channel announces the re-election of President Obama.

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06 Nov 12 - 11:17 PM (#3432175)
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From: Bill D

Done deal!

Lies, cheating and voter suppression lose!

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06 Nov 12 - 11:18 PM (#3432177)
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From: Charley Noble

MSNBC has also called the race for Obama.

Charley Noble

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06 Nov 12 - 11:19 PM (#3432179)
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From: Ron Davies

275 electoral votes for the President.   

And FL still unclear.

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06 Nov 12 - 11:21 PM (#3432180)
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From: Stilly River Sage

NPR also called it. Good!

Now it's time for sour grapes from Songwronger, Henry Krinkle aka. . . , Gust from InSanity, etc. Bring it on.

SRS

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06 Nov 12 - 11:22 PM (#3432182)
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From: Ron Davies

All we need now is a few--very entertaining--explanations from the conspiracy theory fans we are graced with at Mudcat as to why their ideas somehow didn't pan out.

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06 Nov 12 - 11:29 PM (#3432188)
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From: GUEST,Lighter

Karl Rove on Fox says Romney can still win Ohio and the election.

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06 Nov 12 - 11:31 PM (#3432191)
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From: Little Hawk

Stilly, Henry Krinkle can't stand either Obama or Romney. He already said he voted Green in this election, and he knows the Green Party isn't going to win, obviously.

Most Canadians (myself included) will be delighted if Romney loses...and it looks like he has. His brand of politics would sink like a stone in Canada. He'd be lucky to get even 1/4 of the vote here.

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06 Nov 12 - 11:33 PM (#3432195)
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From: Ron Davies

Those of you who aren't watching on TV are in fact missing something. It's not anything any talking head says.   But just seeing the Obama crowd---we really are a melting pot, affirming the picture of 2008.   And the GOP are dinosaurs who are just sinking in their own tarpit--aging white males (and some aging white females) (Looks like Romney took the majority of both--but the days of that being enough are over.)

Especially the incredibly stupid attitude they have on immigration.

Now maybe that will start changing. (Don't hold your breath.)

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06 Nov 12 - 11:39 PM (#3432198)
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From: Henry Krinkle

Thank you, LH. Yes. I voted for the Green woman.
I don't why no Mudcatters are Green. Most of you agree with their platform.
We need a wider choice. Not TweedleDumb and TweedleDumber.
=(:-( ))

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06 Nov 12 - 11:59 PM (#3432207)
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From: GUEST,Lighter

Rove is now telling Fox News analysts that they had no basis to call Ohio for Obama or announce his re-election, and that Romney can still win.

Quite a remarkable exchange, actually.

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07 Nov 12 - 12:02 AM (#3432210)
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From: Don Firth

Quadruple WHOOPIE!!

Local races look like they're shaping up nicely, too. All the numbers not in yet, but it looks very good!

Don Firth

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07 Nov 12 - 12:03 AM (#3432212)
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From: Ron Davies

And now stay tuned for 2016--when TX is a swing state?

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07 Nov 12 - 12:04 AM (#3432214)
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From: ragdall

I think you may have to wait until Wednesday to get the final numbers? Romney is going to wait. He's not giving up.

rags

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07 Nov 12 - 12:06 AM (#3432217)
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From: Ron Davies

WETA says that even without OH, the President has 271--so far. Maybe more.

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07 Nov 12 - 12:09 AM (#3432223)
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From: Henry Krinkle

Prez al-Obama. Puppet of Wall Street.
=(:-( ))

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07 Nov 12 - 12:26 AM (#3432235)
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From: michaelr

303 to 203 looks like a landslide to me.

Not that I'm ecstatic -- I'd prefer Kucinich.

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07 Nov 12 - 12:31 AM (#3432237)
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From: Little Hawk

It looks like a landslide because of the way the electoral college functions. The popular vote divide was so close, it could hardly have been much closer.

I'd prefer Kucinich too! But it ain't gonna happen.

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07 Nov 12 - 12:35 AM (#3432240)
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From: Lonesome EJ

Obama finally leading popular vote, by 16,000 votes.

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07 Nov 12 - 12:35 AM (#3432241)
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From: frogprince

Looks like we at least dodged one big bullet. Please let's not have this be another "Dewey Wins".

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07 Nov 12 - 12:37 AM (#3432244)
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From: Ron Davies

I hear he's leading by 5,000 votes.   We are, to put it mildly, polarized.

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07 Nov 12 - 12:52 AM (#3432251)
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From: Ron Davies

And now, finally, the important news of the night--after all that trivia above.

In CO, marijuana for recreation is now legal (small amount).

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07 Nov 12 - 12:54 AM (#3432253)
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From: Henry Krinkle

Gore won. Remember?
=(:-( 0)

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07 Nov 12 - 12:54 AM (#3432254)
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From: Don Firth

Romney has just officially conceded.

Don Firth

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07 Nov 12 - 12:56 AM (#3432255)
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From: JohnInKansas

MSNBC is giving the Pres to Obama, with only Florida, Vermont, and Nevada uncounted.

Theres a fair chance that Dems will take the majority in the Senate, with about 6 seats undecided; but since the only thing that counts in the Senate is who's chairman in the committees and can block anything that might help from coming to the floor for consideration, that's not too significant.

The Repugnantcrats only need 10 undecided seats in the House to get an even split, with 75 still undecided; but that doesn't matter as long as nothing can come out of the Senate. (About 75 seats still undecided.)

(MSNBC.com has about as good a "tracker" as I've found, and shold be as reliable as any; but they're redirecting to an "election results" page that I haven't been able to snatch a useful url from to make a link. You might find it by just putting "msnbc.com" in your browser(?)) - if you care.

John

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07 Nov 12 - 01:06 AM (#3432258)
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From: GUEST,999

After this election, it will be interesting to see which polling companies were skewing results in hopes of influencing the election. It would be great to see them skewered (hoisted on their own) and bankrupted (fucked) as a result. IMO.

Sometimes, nails is real tough.

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07 Nov 12 - 01:10 AM (#3432260)
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From: Ron Davies

In fact his concession speech was gracious. Hope the rest of the GOP follows suit.

It is indeed time to "do the people's business"


By the way, Fox has called VA for the President.

So far 303 to 203 in favor of the President.

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07 Nov 12 - 01:11 AM (#3432262)
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From: Little Hawk

Romney gave a dignified and gracious concession speech, no Dick Nixon style bitterness and carping to be seen there. He thanked a lot of people and spoke well of Obama too. Good for him.

Obama appears to be having a merry old time with his happy crowd of supporters.

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07 Nov 12 - 01:15 AM (#3432265)
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From: Ron Davies

"having a merry time". Wrong. He's not yet in the hall.

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07 Nov 12 - 01:19 AM (#3432267)
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From: Ron Davies

The crowd is singing along to "Let's Stay Together".

Good advice.

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07 Nov 12 - 01:31 AM (#3432272)
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From: Desert Dancer

My son is enthusiastic about the possibility of a Spanish-speaking 51st state: Puerto Rico again had a non-binding referendum on its future, and for the first time a clear majority voted in favor of statehood. I'm not exactly sure why this particularly catches his fancy, but, why not? (I don't see it happening soon, anyway...)

Some amazing progress on marriage equality and defusing the war on drugs. An

A couple of ballot measures making a start on responding to Citizens United.

Unfortunate that California does not seem to have been able to eliminate the death penalty.

And education funding has gone down in California and Arizona.

~ Becky in Tucson

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07 Nov 12 - 02:04 AM (#3432280)
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From: Ron Davies

The President's speech was also gracious, inclusive--and inspirational.    A rebuke to the cynics--not that they of course will acknowledge this.

A wonderful start to the second term.

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07 Nov 12 - 02:16 AM (#3432282)
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From: michaelr

Platitude city, I thought, Ron.

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07 Nov 12 - 02:19 AM (#3432283)
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From: Ron Davies

Thank you, Mr. Cynic.   You certainly are in good company on Mudcat--somtimes it seems you are in the majority.

If you are a US citizen, might I respectfully ask what you did to help the President in this campaign?

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07 Nov 12 - 02:42 AM (#3432289)
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From: Ron Davies

"sometimes"

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07 Nov 12 - 03:00 AM (#3432295)
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From: Richard Bridge

So, hows about the proof, the actual films showing the voting machines changing votes?

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07 Nov 12 - 08:59 AM (#3432396)
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From: Stilly River Sage

Henry Krinkle can't stand either Obama or Romney. He already said he voted Green in this election, and he knows the Green Party isn't going to win, obviously.

LH, if the character who calls himself Henry Krinkle is "Green" then I don't want to be a part of it. My prediction still stands. His whole life as it exists at Mudcat is sour grapes.

SRS

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07 Nov 12 - 09:18 AM (#3432403)
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From: GUEST,sciencegeek

the heck with voting Green... how about folks LIVING GREEN????? ...

put your lifestyle where your mouth is???

I got my double degree in Biology & Environmental Studies when ecology was still the red haired step child... 1973. My college was one of the few that had a long standing tradition of teaching the field. I currently work for a state conservation agency that would be doing a better job if we could get rid of the political hacks who get the plum positions and then obstruct the work at the behest of their political sponsors.

I try to leave as small a carbon footprint as I can and still get to work. I support genetic modification as a tool - but deplore its abuse by the agrichemical industry. I own a small farm that is low input and mostly pasture or woodlot. I practice and live what I preach, how about the rest of you nay sayers?

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07 Nov 12 - 09:21 AM (#3432409)
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From: Bettynh

While we'll miss the income, folks in NH have managed to get out and vote for the right team - as of now, our govenor, senators, and representative to the Congress are ALL women. The huge voter turnout probably made the difference.

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07 Nov 12 - 12:10 PM (#3432497)
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From: Ron Davies

Nobody claims the US election system is perfect---in contrast to the UK system, which of course is a model for the world.   This is why the UK electorate is so happy with its current leadership.


The idea that the US system is perfect is what is known as a straw man.   Perhaps, Richard, as a lawyer, you've heard of this concept?

By the way, if you have proof--as opposed to allegations-- of tampering with voting machines in 2012, please provide a link. Obviously we would seek to eliminate any such tampering.

And, yet again, since you seem to be amazingly slow on the uptake, the main problem with dwelling on possible corruption, rather than the importance of voting, is that it encourages people not to vote--already a huge problem in the US.

The focus should always be on raising turnout.

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07 Nov 12 - 12:46 PM (#3432513)
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From: saulgoldie

We got gay marriage in Maryland, now. Guess all married heteros should bar the doors. I don't 'zacly know if single heteros considering marriage, or singles studiously *avoiding* marriage are also at risk? Maybe gays should bar the doors, too, to protect *themselves* from marriage??

With the doors barred, what would be an appropriate weapon with which to scare off the marriage attackers? Would it be a pump shotgun? A semi-automatic, like .45 or 9MM? Perhaps a six-shot .357 or .44 magnum? All of the above? Or how about a Bible? A Quaran? How about a manifesto of J.R. "Bob" Dobbs? Book of Cells? How about a bucket of various sugar thingies that you give out to all comers in onsies and twosies?

Or maybe nothing, because there is *no real threat;* only a *perceived* one!

Saul

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07 Nov 12 - 12:56 PM (#3432521)
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From: Stilly River Sage

Colorado and Washington approved the sale of marijuana for recreational use. This should be interesting!

SRS

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07 Nov 12 - 01:24 PM (#3432540)
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From: Bill D

We don't need a Green Party... we just need all other parties to THINK Green as part of their platform. Obama will do as well as anyone to push 'green' ideas.....in the face of entrenched interests.

I watched way too many ads by the coal & oil industries the last few months.... but those people MUST be dealt with until they see a way to make $$$$ making green changes.

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07 Nov 12 - 01:33 PM (#3432547)
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From: GUEST,sciencegeek

We don't need a Green Party... we just need all other parties to THINK Green as part of their platform. Obama will do as well as anyone to push 'green' ideas.....in the face of entrenched interests.

I watched way too many ads by the coal & oil industries the last few months.... but those people MUST be dealt with until they see a way to make $$$$ making green changes. "

exactly... and I would suggest that anyone interested in what is being done by this administration to promote green industry, etc. -sign up for the EPA's free newsletter & updates.

this administration is doing alot to make the federal government more transparant.. and I applaud their efforts.

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07 Nov 12 - 03:03 PM (#3432597)
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From: pdq

Mustang Ranch brothel owner Lance Gilman has a new job...wins as county commissioner.

He defeated a fellow Republican for the position.

Says his business experience will be very helpful in doing the job.

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07 Nov 12 - 04:32 PM (#3432656)
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From: Bill D

LOLOL... I'll bet it will!

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07 Nov 12 - 06:31 PM (#3432706)
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From: WalkaboutsVerse

I personally prefer Democratic policies, but am shocked by how few African Americans prefer a Republican, these days - in one state, 93% voted for Obama..? My poem on "Americans" - http://www.myspace.com/walkaboutsverse/blog/455408778

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07 Nov 12 - 09:21 PM (#3432791)
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From: Ron Davies

It really doesn't help the GOP appeal to blacks when for some reason all the "birthers" seem to be of that party.   And the problem goes back at least to the "Southern Strategy".


No great mystery.

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07 Nov 12 - 09:27 PM (#3432794)
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From: Bobert

Yeah, the Southern Strategy has become a curse for the Republicans... It won't win them national elections... Good for Tea Party, though...

B~

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07 Nov 12 - 09:38 PM (#3432801)
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From: Ron Davies

Hey Bobert, we should be glad if the Tea Party takes over the GOP.    Their connection with reality is getting progressively more tenuous.

Heard an interview today with a Tea Party bigwig in which he more than once asserted that the Tea Party is still going to repeal Obamacare.

He did say it might not be easy.

That's putting it mildly-especially since the Supreme Court has already upheld its constitutionality.



Coming next: clashes between the federal government and states which refuse to carry it out.

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08 Nov 12 - 07:16 AM (#3432931)
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From: WalkaboutsVerse

Further to my above post, unless the U.S.A. is to be run by a council of Native Americans, ideally ALL citizens would put policy before ethic background...but did that happen..?

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08 Nov 12 - 08:35 AM (#3432968)
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From: GUEST,Lighter

I'd be very surprised if any states actually refused to implement Obamacare, regardless of what politicians may have said during an election campaign.

But my perceptions of Republican rationality were formed many, many years ago. This is a new breed, many of whom, as I've said elsewhere, don't even know what "conservative" means.

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08 Nov 12 - 11:41 AM (#3433066)
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From: Ron Davies

Supposedly some states will refuse to set up the insurance pools which are part of Obamacare. So the federal government will do it for them--and no doubt some of those states will whine about federal interference in state matters.

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