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24 Nov 12 - 06:51 AM (#3441377) Subject: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Jim McLean I have just heard that Ian Campbell, the Scottish folk singer who lived in Birmingham, passed away at 10am this morning. He'll be sadly missed. |
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24 Nov 12 - 07:02 AM (#3441380) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Vic Smith Sad News! A lot of us learned a great deal from the Ian Campbell Folk Group all those years ago. |
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24 Nov 12 - 07:20 AM (#3441383) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: threelegsoman Indeed, I was a big fan of the group and sing a number of the songs they introduced to me when I bought their LPs. RIP Ian |
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24 Nov 12 - 07:34 AM (#3441389) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Dave Hanson Curiously I'm just listening to Jon Rennard singing Ian's great anti war song ' The Old Mans Tale ' He will be greatly missed, a fine singer and songwriter and an inspiration to many, RIP Ian. Dave H |
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24 Nov 12 - 07:45 AM (#3441396) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: RoyH (Burl) An inspirational figure from the early days.I always had a lot of respect for him and the group. Thank you Ian for your gifts to the folk scene. We will miss you. Rest in Peace. Roy Harris. |
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24 Nov 12 - 08:20 AM (#3441412) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Johnny J Sad news. Ian's significance within the early days of the folk revival were immense and should never be forgotten. |
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24 Nov 12 - 08:27 AM (#3441414) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST,Tunesmith I saw Ian's group lots of times in the 60s, and I thought they were great! Of course Ian was featured on the BBC Folk Awards, and seemed like a really interesting character! |
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24 Nov 12 - 08:37 AM (#3441420) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: wassail Awful news. A great man who inspired so many young singers over the years. Condolences to the family. Mike. |
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24 Nov 12 - 08:43 AM (#3441422) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Paul Davenport Yet another source of folk inspiration for a (once) 17 year old. I agree, sad day. |
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24 Nov 12 - 08:56 AM (#3441429) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: MikeL2 Hi Top man!! Great singer and writer of songs and for me a good communicator and entertainer. Will be sadly missed. Condolences to Ian's family and friends. Sadly MikeL2 |
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24 Nov 12 - 09:20 AM (#3441450) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Steve Gardham Yes, sadly missed. One of the greats from the 60s. So glad he could make his final statement on the Beeb before he went. |
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24 Nov 12 - 09:40 AM (#3441463) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: John MacKenzie Leaves a hole in all our lives. He was a great influence on many, and I still sing songs learned from his and Lorna's singing. RIP |
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24 Nov 12 - 09:53 AM (#3441469) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle Very very sad. I guess at some point he just gave up on the folkscene. and who could blame him? One lot was trying to empty the folk clubs of pop music. The other lot were getting into bed with showbiz. His own kids were reggae singers, and doing bloody well at it. Someone on facebook was saying that there was never a golden age of the English folk club. ten minutes talking to Ian would have convinced you other wise. here was some one who had sung on the original radio ballads. writen a song on Paul Simon's first album. Gave Joni Mitchell one her first gigs in England. in Jon Dunkerly and Dave Swarbrick harnessed two of the best musical talents England ever saw. And such idealism! Someone who gave nightclass lessons on songwriting. Handed me back part of his fee, because he hadn't pulled enough people to justify it. He was from an age when folk music was so vital that the establishment decided hw was dangerous and got the MI5 to tap his phone. Not much chance of an MBE there! I wish I'd known him better. he was a giant - intellectually, spiritually, artistically and humorous with it! |
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24 Nov 12 - 10:20 AM (#3441479) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Northerner Never had the opportunity to see him, but played some of his LPs, and had one of his songbooks. RIP Ian. |
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24 Nov 12 - 10:58 AM (#3441501) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Roger the Skiffler I think I only saw the IC Group live once, in the Swarbrick days, but many of my colleagues in Birmingham in the '60s were regular fans. I have several of his records among the small British Folk area of my collection (which is mainly jazz, blues, skiffle & US folk). I had assumed he had already "gone before". RIP RtS |
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24 Nov 12 - 11:04 AM (#3441504) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Charley Noble Nice post, Big Al. Charley Noble |
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24 Nov 12 - 11:06 AM (#3441505) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Steve Parkes Many happy memories ... I was a regular at the Jug of Punch for several years in the 70's; If I had to point to a golden age, it was back then. Ian was always easy to approach, and always encouraged up & coming talent (and me!). He'll be greatly missed. |
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24 Nov 12 - 11:55 AM (#3441541) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: wassail Well said Steve, and Big Al. Had some great times at the "Jug", and remember bouncing a baby Ali on my knee. Let's hope that he keeps up his father's work. Mike B. |
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24 Nov 12 - 12:04 PM (#3441551) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST,Desi C That's such sad news. I followed the Campbell's around Birmingham in the early 70's after buying their 1st album 'presenting the Ian Campbell folk group'A collection of around 20 songs ALL recorded in one day! I later gave that copy to Ian and sister Lorna as amazingly they said they didn't have an original copy. Ian was a dour but very genuine man of dry humour. The first time I met him at The Station pub in Kings Heath and asked him for an autograph, he made me play a game of darts for it! They were probably the most underrated folk group in the country staying in unfashionable Brum. But they stayed fiercly loyal to it all their career. It's a very sad day indeed, I'll miss him. R.I.P |
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24 Nov 12 - 12:41 PM (#3441577) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: The Sandman rest in peace, I met him when he was living near Kilkenny in Ireland, I liked his singing, and the IC folk group |
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24 Nov 12 - 12:52 PM (#3441581) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: MGM·Lion Very sad news ~~ one of the great names in British folk. Adieu, Ian ~Michael~ |
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24 Nov 12 - 01:32 PM (#3441602) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Susanne (skw) Very sad indeed. I still buy their vinyl when I find it in 2nd hand shops! And some of Ian's songs are among my favourites. RIP! |
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24 Nov 12 - 02:23 PM (#3441622) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST,Sheena Wellington One of my influences and a vital part of my teens and early twenties, so I am very sad to hear of his death. |
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24 Nov 12 - 04:12 PM (#3441675) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Anne Neilson Sad news indeed -- A formative influence for many in the 70s, a fine singer and songwriter and, from all accounts, a man who stayed true to his roots. All thanks to Ian for the music and the songs, and condolences to his family. |
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24 Nov 12 - 06:29 PM (#3441731) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: DrugCrazed I just heard at the Anti-Cap roadshow. Kind of hoped it wasn't true. |
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24 Nov 12 - 08:27 PM (#3441778) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Betsy Top man - God bless. |
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25 Nov 12 - 02:47 AM (#3441838) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Little Robyn Very sad. I met Ian and the group at Laycock FF in 1972 and I have a lovely memory of them dressed in fancy dress. Ian made a lovely Henry VIII! Robyn |
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25 Nov 12 - 05:06 AM (#3441855) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Nigel Paterson As a youngish mandolin player in the 60s, I was greatly impressed by Ian & The I.C Folk Group...loved their live 'sound' & the rapport they had with the audience...learned a lot, just watching & listening. A great loss to Music & folk in particular. My sincere condolences to his Family & Friends. Nigel Paterson. |
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25 Nov 12 - 05:13 AM (#3441856) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST Sad news indeed. I grew up listening to Ian's music, learning some of his songs. Rest in peace, lighting a candle. |
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25 Nov 12 - 06:37 AM (#3441870) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Vic Smith The Ian Campbell Folk Group Ian Campbell Folk Group [l-r]John Dunkerley, Dave Swarbrick, Ian Campbell, Lorna Campbell, Brian Clark. Very sad. I met Ian and the group at Laycock FF in 1972 and I have a lovely memory of them dressed in fancy dress. Ian made a lovely Henry VIII! Robyn IAN CAMPBELL as Henry VIII at Lacock & Chippenham Festival |
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25 Nov 12 - 06:45 AM (#3441873) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Dave Sutherland Very sad news indeed. As well as doing a lot to further traditional song Ian wrote some fine songs of his own and the group were instrumental in introducing us to a lot of the up and coming songwriters (who are now household names) of the day. I still have their 45rmp of "The Times They Are a'Changing" |
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25 Nov 12 - 07:02 AM (#3441882) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: scouse Only saw him once when he turned up unexpectedly at the Tonder Festival and gave a great impromptu performance at the workers Curry night on Monday. Very impressed, R.I.P. Ian. As Aye, Phil. |
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25 Nov 12 - 07:29 AM (#3441896) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: doc.tom Sad news. The group were one of the first pro. outfits I ever saw working - at their club in Brum. (One of they new-fangled folk club things). R.I.P. TomB |
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25 Nov 12 - 07:31 AM (#3441897) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: threelegsoman Having read of Ian's passing yesterday here, I have uploaded The Cutty Wren which is a song he covered as a tribute to him. His version of this song was the first time I have heard it. The Cutty Wren (Including lyrics and chords) |
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25 Nov 12 - 09:57 AM (#3441949) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST,joe molloy RIP Ian. |
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25 Nov 12 - 10:04 AM (#3441954) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST,Mike Yates Very sad news. I once remember being with him when Peta Webb was singing and Ian turned to me and said something to the effect that wasn't it wonderful that there were now so many really good singers on the scene. That is how I will remember him - a good, kind and supportive man. |
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25 Nov 12 - 10:28 AM (#3441964) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Musket Thinking on, it was when I was doing music O Level many moons ago that our school music department bought a set of Ian Campbell Folk Group score books. That, together with my big brother's venture into folk at the same time and coming home with Ewan McColl, A L Lloyd and, yes, Ian Campbell albums got me interested in a music which led to great friendships, a way of life almost and lots of joy over the last 40 years. Ian Campbell was one of the unknowing architects of that, and for that I am eternally grateful. RIP |
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25 Nov 12 - 02:48 PM (#3442069) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST,Sivart A Gentleman and scholar. He who would probably favour a ripple at his passing, but deserves a wave!! RIP |
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25 Nov 12 - 03:37 PM (#3442080) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST,RWJ Fond memouries of the Jug at Digbeth Civic Hall. RIP Ian |
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25 Nov 12 - 05:27 PM (#3442106) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST,martyn phillips My father (Dave Phillips) was a member of the group for a while. I don't ever remember a time without Ian. I'm sad you've gone. say hello to my dad from me! |
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25 Nov 12 - 05:42 PM (#3442112) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle I remember your Dad very well. Martyn. he was a lovely singer. I used to see him at the Star Club on the ringway. frequently at the same table at the front as Mick Hipkess and the other members of Drowsy Maggie. Tommy Dempsey used to go there as well. I got a booking after Ewan MacColl put one of my songs in his New City Songster, but I was already kicking against the pricks when it camr to trad music even then. I died on my arse. |
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25 Nov 12 - 11:29 PM (#3442224) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST I loved Ian's singing, and Lorna's. And as someone said above, having both John Dunkerley and Swarb in the group was really icing on the cake. I used to get up to Digbeth Civic Hall occasionally, from Kidderminster when I was home from Uni in Manchester. My regular local was the Boat Club in Stourport-on-Severn, and Dave Phillips was a pretty regular guest, as a solo. One of my favourite recordings of the Campbells was The Bells of Rhymney; Dave's voice was prominent. My recollection is that he'd been forced out of the group with the addition of Brian Clark who married Lorna, but I wasn't privy to any real information. I'm sorry I didn't know Ian personally - it sounds like I really missed something. RIP. |
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26 Nov 12 - 04:41 AM (#3442277) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST,Desred So very sad to hear the news that a great folk singer has passed away. Over the last few years, after he had returned to Brum, we've had the privilege of sitting with Ian from time to time in local song sessions in Kings Heath, Birmingham, when he would come along with his son, David. He liked nothing better than hearing some of his own songs sung and no doubt we will be singing some more when we meet up next week. Like so many others in Birmingham, we loved going to the Jug O'Punch club in Digbeth back in the late 60's/early 70's and having a great night with the Ian Campbell Folk Group. We were lucky to see him in his final live appearance at the Moseley Folk Festival a few years ago and could hear his mum, Betty, singing along at the back of the stage. Memories flood back - thanks Ian and keep singing and chuckling up there! Des & Margaret |
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26 Nov 12 - 05:37 AM (#3442296) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: marion.h Ian was my introduction to folk music...been there ever since.loved the whole family..Dave and Betty(Ian's mom and dad) were so supportive when we started singing and later when the boys were starting to hit the big time used to send UB40 promo stuff to our boys. So sad about Ian he will be missed. |
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26 Nov 12 - 06:53 AM (#3442321) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Anglo ( Apologies for my anonymous post above - apparently I had tossed my cookie. John Roberts ) |
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26 Nov 12 - 07:06 AM (#3442326) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Pete Jennings A legend of the Brum folk scene. RIP. |
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26 Nov 12 - 11:48 AM (#3442460) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST,terry Barrett Lots of great memories of Ian used to stay at his house many years ago when I was mates with Ali very dry sense of humour never knew if he wad being serious or joking but always very kind to me .did use to get the hump sometimes though when me Ali and sometimes Duncan played up s bit at the jug .happy days |
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26 Nov 12 - 03:00 PM (#3442582) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST The ICFG recording of "Bells of Rhymney" circa 1964 is an example of technology following art as the "if, if, if, if" sounds just like a CD skipping. Loved the ICFG and played something from them nearly weekly on my Sunday Hampton, VA USA folk radio show (90 minutes long) in 1998-99. I also had the privilige of introducing them to both Stringsinger on this board and George Grove currently of the Kingston Trio. |
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26 Nov 12 - 07:06 PM (#3442719) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST,Philippa sad to hear this news I am yet another person who grew up listening to and learning songs and tunes from the Ian Campbell folk group; many of the songs are still in my repetoire and I play Battle of the Somme which I learned off an ICFG album condolences to friends and family |
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27 Nov 12 - 07:51 AM (#3442985) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Essex Girl How sad, the Ian Campbell group were one of the first folk groups I heard back in the 60's, and that evening, upstairs in a pub in Harlow, gave me a love of folk music which has lasted me all of my life. RIP Ian. |
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27 Nov 12 - 09:49 AM (#3443042) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST,Alistair Banfield As everyone above, I'm very sad to hear the news. Ian and his group were a major force in the Folk scene of the 1960s. Inspirational in many ways and both avant-garde and part of a folk establishment that set a quality standard that few could match. He has left a considerable legacy of recorded music and is part of the four generations of Campbells that have found recorded success. The only other family I can think of that can match the four generations are Betsy Miller, son, grandson and great grandson (now in the group Bombay Bicycle Club). |
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27 Nov 12 - 04:06 PM (#3443257) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST,Ballyholme No obit in the national dailies? I would have thought that someone as influential as Ian would have warrented one. |
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27 Nov 12 - 05:52 PM (#3443309) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST,John-T Sad news indeed, Ian Campbell group was one of the first folk groups I listen too, back in the 60's. I still have a Vinyl of theirs which also featured Dave Pegg and Swarb. These people were all part of the folk revival, and not to be forgotten. |
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28 Nov 12 - 07:09 AM (#3443558) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST,Mikaël http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/nov/28/ian-campbell |
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28 Nov 12 - 10:34 AM (#3443690) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST,Kay First met Ian at The Jug of Punch way back. He became a personal friend over the years,helping me out with a charity folk concert. The sessions in King's Heath raised money to help out a number of people, including Dave and Betty, with debts after the Silver Jubilee Festival. Delighted to see him on T.V. at the Folk Awards, will miss him a lot. |
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01 Dec 12 - 02:05 PM (#3445338) Subject: Obit: Ian Campbell From: GUEST,Amber Ah, I only found out on Friday that this great one had gone. He will be so sadly missed. What a wonderful singer, what an incredibly rich voice, what a great songwriter! How I do remember those nights in The Jug of Punch, in Birmingham, where my love affair with folk music began. I am so glad that his achievements were reconised with his award last year and not before time. RIP Ian. |
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01 Dec 12 - 07:33 PM (#3445469) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: goatfell RIP Ian |
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04 Dec 12 - 07:55 AM (#3446711) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: marion.h Just got back from Ian'funeral - a fitting tribute to a wonderful man. Music provided by Dave Swarbrick, Dave pegg and Phil Bond.The Unquiet grave sunbg by Ian's son David, Tributes by brian Clark and Ian's oldest granson Ben. They played The Sun is Burning - Simon and Garfunkel.All in all a wondeful tribute. |
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04 Dec 12 - 10:57 AM (#3446826) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle Thank you Marion. |
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04 Dec 12 - 11:40 AM (#3446849) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Leadfingers I came home from a couple of years in Germany in 1964 , and was introduced to Folk via The Hootenanny show on BBC Television ! The Group (With Swarbrick , of course) were regulars .# Never saw them live , but 'collected' a lot of the songs ! Another one in the Great Singaround Up There !! |
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05 Dec 12 - 08:34 AM (#3447366) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Vin2 A sad loss to the folk and music scene. The D Day Dodgers.......... |
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05 Dec 12 - 08:35 AM (#3447367) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Vin2 Sorry try again http://youtu.be/SE5Cgvc3JqU |
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14 Dec 12 - 04:43 PM (#3451952) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST,Naomi In the words of my elderly mother, "Ian Campbell has played a big part in our lives". Through the traditional songs he sang and songs he wrote, he expressed many different experiences of families like ours. He also expressed our political views. As working class people, it was important to have an eloquent spokesman. Ian, his sister Lorna and their parents,taught me much about music, history and performance. This interest provided a buttress against the worst things that those in power have done. That's before I even begin to reflect on the energy, passion and beauty of his music. It moved us deeply and I will be eternally grateful. |
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14 Dec 12 - 05:19 PM (#3451962) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST,henryp There was a tribute on The Last Word on BBC Radio 4 today, Friday 14 December, with contributions from Mike Harding and Dave Pegg. |
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15 Dec 12 - 07:01 PM (#3452465) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: Peter K (Fionn) It will be repeated today (Sunday 16 Dec) at 8.30pm GMT, after which it will be available for a week on the BBC website. Well worth catching. They gave him quite a generous slot, with clips from his songs, even in a week of several notable passings on. |
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16 Dec 12 - 04:26 PM (#3452951) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: danensis I just heard about Ian's death on The Last Word. A very sad loss for folk music. I first encountered the Jug'o'Punch when I was on an International Work Camp at the Midlands Arts Centre in 1967. For the following three years I went down to Digbeth Civic Hall on a Thursday night whenever I was in Birmingham, and often chatted to Dave and Betty. When I met my wife in 1970 I took her to the club, as she was a great fan of Ian's music, and Ian gave her a floor spot on the strength of my say-so, and he wasn't disappointed. I knew John Dunkerley well, as his mother was a friend of my mother in Doncaster, and I was one of the first to learn about his intention of leaving the group. |
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26 Jan 13 - 10:59 PM (#3471906) Subject: RE: Obit: Ian Campbell, Birmingham From: GUEST,GUEST lost So far away and out of touch now that I didn't hear of Ian's departure until tonight. Shame on me. Loved him lots, and Lorna even more. The Gunmakers will never seem the same. Hope to see them both in another time and another place. Love |
