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Lyr Req: Jordan Am a Hard Road to Travel

29 Oct 99 - 07:26 PM (#129655)
Subject: Jordan Am a Hard Road to Travel
From: Chet W.

I'm collecting verses for this song. I have the ones from the DT and the one from Wayne Erbsen's book. I seem to remember a line about "...Been on the Alligator Mountain". If anyone has any more, I'd appreciate it. Didn't Uncle Dave Macon do this song?

Thanks, Chet


29 Oct 99 - 09:04 PM (#129685)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jordan Am a Hard Road to Travel
From: Stewie

You will find Uncle Dave's version on 'Go Long Mule' County CO-CD-3505, one of a pair of lovely CDs devoted to Uncle Dave on this label. Uncle Dave's last verse has 'Alligator Mt'.

Rained 40 nights but it rained 40 days
Gonna rain on the Alligator Mountain
Gonna rain for the horse and dominecker(?)mule
Gonna take us on the other side of Jordan

Don't know about 'dominecker'- that's what it sounds like. I dimly recall a word something like that in old-time music, but associated with a hen. Do you know what it is - it will drive me mad now.

Cheers, Stewie.


29 Oct 99 - 09:31 PM (#129690)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jordan Am a Hard Road to Travel
From: Stewie

The Jimmy Driftwood version pointed to by the Shop link is another 'Pike' variant slightly similar to the one in DT, but with more verses.

Cheers, Stewie.


29 Oct 99 - 09:50 PM (#129697)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jordan Am a Hard Road to Travel
From: Chet W.

Thanks Stewie. I do know what dominecker is, referring to chickens. It is a dialectic variation on Dominican, whether from the Catholic order or the Republic I don't know. Dominecker chickens are black with lots of irregular white spots, so I guess Uncle Dave may have been referring to a mule with similar coloring.

Thanks again, Chet


30 Oct 99 - 04:29 PM (#129893)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jordan Am a Hard Road to Travel
From: Banjer

I wouldn't put too much stock in anything Wayne Erbsen puts out. I have his 'Back Pocket Old Time Songbook' which, in the introduction, goes on at great length about preserving our musical heritage and singing the old songs the way they were meant to be sung, and there are several songs that have had words changed to make them "less offensive". After several attempts at contacting the folks at Native Ground and Mr. Erbsen himself and not getting the courtesy of a reply it is MY HUMBLE OPINION that he and his publishers are using us and our love for Old Time Music for nothing more than to line their pockets, authenticity be dammned!


30 Oct 99 - 06:43 PM (#129917)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jordan Am a Hard Road to Travel
From: Les B

Not being from that part of the country, I always thought the line referred to the "Allegheny Mountains," not the alligator mtns ???


21 Oct 11 - 02:52 PM (#3242635)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jordan Am a Hard Road to Travel
From: GUEST

me too. I thought the version by Norman Blake says "Allegheny Mountain".


21 Oct 11 - 06:51 PM (#3242715)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jordan Am a Hard Road to Travel
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

I vote for Allegheny.

Dominecker refers to the Dominique breed of chickens, an old breed brought to North America from England. They have a rose comb, and are barred, but not the same as the Plymouth Barred Rock.

Origin of the name is uncertain. One reference I looked at says early use in England was Dominic.
http://www.dominiquechicken.com/The_Dominique_Name.html


22 Oct 11 - 03:24 AM (#3242896)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jordan Am a Hard Road to Travel
From: Stewie

At first blush, it sounded like 'Alligator' to me, but that probably was my mishearing Uncle Dave's pronunciation of 'Alleghany'. The transcription in the book accompanying the Bear Family box set of Uncle Dave's complete recordings also has 'Alleghany'.

--Stewie.