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02 Apr 13 - 07:42 AM (#3497761) Subject: Severnside From: GUEST,Di From my folk-club days in Sheffield (Barley Mow?, early 60's?) I vaguely remember a song which had the following first verse: As I rode down by Severnside, A brown-rigged craft came down the tide. Singing farewell shore, It's Severn no more, No more, no more. I have never heard it since. Does anyone have the lyrics? Di |
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03 Apr 13 - 04:50 AM (#3498171) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Severnside From: rosma I am interested in this because I live on Severnside. One of our regulars at the Dragon Folk Club has written as song Severndown but that's a fictitious place as far as he is aware. |
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03 Apr 13 - 08:37 AM (#3498237) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Severnside From: Mick Pearce (MCP) The song was published in The Countryman Vol 59 (see p511-512). This was published in 1961. As printed, it starts: Severn No More As I walked out by Severn side, A brown-rigged craft went down the tide, Singing 'Farewell, shore! It's Severn no more. No more — no more'. O Severn is wide as the eye can scan, But she wrecks them under craft and man. ..... It was learned at Weston-super-Mare. That's all I can see. There are some copied available via amazon in the £4-5 range (but make sure you get the right issue for Vol 59). Mick |
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03 Apr 13 - 01:10 PM (#3498350) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Severnside From: Newport Boy I don't know whether this might be the same song. Phil |
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03 Apr 13 - 04:18 PM (#3498438) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Severnside From: GUEST,Georgina Boyes "Severnside" / "Severn No More" is one of the songs "collected" by Ruth Tongue. The Oxford Dictionary of Folklore describes her as a 'problematic figure'. Adding - "The problem is that Tongue was a performer, and that many years had passed since she had learnt these songs and tales; the uniform style and recurrent themes and phrases make it virtually certain that they had been reshaped, perhaps only half-consciously, to suit her personality. Some look like patchworks, built up round mere scraps of traditional beliefs or sayings. She should be regarded as a creative singer and storyteller reworking fragments of tradition, not as a reliable collector." At the time that Barry Morton of the Rotherham Taverners used to sing it in the 1960's, however, it was regarded as a traditional song. Georgina |
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04 Apr 13 - 07:09 AM (#3498666) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Severnside From: GUEST,Georgina Boyes It's probably worth adding that, whatever it's origin, "Severn No More" is very singable and has a good chorus, so perhaps it deserves to become traditional. Georgina |
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04 Apr 13 - 07:27 AM (#3498671) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Severnside From: GUEST,Di Thanks to all of you for your help. Georgina, you are right. It was a trio who called themselves "The Taverners" that I heard singing this song in Sheffield back in the 60's. I now live close to Severn side (Wye side actually) but I have yet to come across anyone who has even heard of it. Strange! I remember the tune well enough (great harmony), so unless someone can come up with the lyrics, I will just have to plump for one of the buying options–thanks Mick and Phil for the links. Di |
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04 Apr 13 - 07:40 AM (#3498675) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Severnside From: GUEST,Georgina Boyes Di - It might be worth trying to get the copy of "Seven Songs from Somerset Collected by Ruth Tongue" which is for sale on Amazon. I don't know if "Severnside" is in it, but it's not very expensive. Good luck. Georgina |
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04 Apr 13 - 04:28 PM (#3498854) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Severnside From: Newport Boy Di - Bear in mind that I couldn't find any of the lyrics for "Severn No More" on the songsheet in my link. However, it is a 3-part harmony arrangement, so it could be the right one. Phil |
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18 May 19 - 02:45 AM (#3992852) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Severnside From: GUEST,Sean O'Shea If you go to the Halsway Manor web site, somewhere on it you can hear Meg Rose singing your song. |
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18 May 19 - 02:48 AM (#3992853) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Severnside From: GUEST,Sean O'Shea SPECIFICALLY,it's on the 2016 project section under FAUSTUS and called Seven No More[wrongly] |
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18 May 19 - 02:58 AM (#3992854) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Severnside From: Jack Campin I see no archive of any past events on the Halsway site. |
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18 May 19 - 03:31 AM (#3992855) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Severnside From: Reinhard Faustus – 2016 Halsway Manor Artists in Residence |
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18 May 19 - 03:48 AM (#3992856) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Severnside From: Reinhard Ruth Tongue and members of a local WI sing Severn No More |
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18 May 19 - 02:38 PM (#3992894) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Severnside From: Mick Pearce (MCP) Here's my transcription from the two recordings mentioned above. There's a third version online by a Biddy Rhodes who was taught it by Ruth Tongue when she was a girl. It's used as the background to a video and is only partial, though the clearest recording: Shadowlands Project at Halsway Manor - just over halfway down the page Shadow animation test for Walford's Gibbet. I'll try and put the tune up, but it might be a few days. Mick SEVERN NO MORE (Ruth Tongue) As I walked out by Severn side, A brown-rigged craft came up/down the tide. Chorus: Singing, "Farewell, shore It's Severn no more. No more." Singing, "Farewell, shore, It's Severn no more" Now/O Severn she's/is wide as the eye can scan And/But she wrecks them under both craft and man. There's none can ride her mighty bore Where/When she do rise with a terrible roar O Severn do shine and she lies still And all come home both safe and well Final Chorus: Singing "Welcome, shore, It's Severn no more. No more", Singing "Welcome, shore, It's Severn no more" Source: Meg Rose and Ruth Tongue There are some slight differences in wording in the two versions. Those to left of / are Meg Rose, those to the right Ruth Tongue. Ruth Tongue's own chorus is slightly different (and is as the first version I posted originally): Singing, "Farewell, shore It's Severn no more. No more. No more" and similarly for the final Welcome shore chorus |