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10 Apr 13 - 01:44 AM (#3501256) Subject: BS: I can't walk a mile in your skin From: Jack the Sailor This is about a song but very political and certainly not traditional folk. New Yorker on Accidental Racist I like Brad Paisley. He writes witty songs with good hooks. He can play guitar and sings as well and most country stars. He's done a couple of songs that are a lot more centrist than say Toby Keith. But this new song Accidental Racist... WOW!! He's been called a racist and LL Cool J who raps on the song is probably going to be called a sellout or worse. But I think that maybe they are trying to build bridges. I hope so anyway. Judge for yourselves. New Yorker on Accidental Racist |
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10 Apr 13 - 01:57 AM (#3501257) Subject: RE: BS: I can't walk a mile in your skin From: Jack the Sailor http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/08/wheelhouse-review-brad-paisley_n_3038795.html |
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10 Apr 13 - 07:40 AM (#3501347) Subject: RE: BS: I can't walk a mile in your skin From: Jack the Sailor more about the song. http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2013/04/09/176677624/brad-paisleys-accidental-racist-sparks-at-least-one-dialogue?utm_source=NPR&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=20130409 |
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10 Apr 13 - 08:09 AM (#3501358) Subject: RE: BS: I can't walk a mile in your skin From: Bobert Whereas I don't think this song was written as good as it could have been, I give Brad Paisley kudos for having the courage to put it out... B~ |
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10 Apr 13 - 08:15 AM (#3501363) Subject: RE: BS: I can't walk a mile in your skin From: Jack the Sailor God Bless the Southerners and the descendants of the slaves. I pray that they forgive each other like in the song. Its better than I could have written it. Much more clever anyway. But I couldn't write a song excusing the wearing of that flag. |
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10 Apr 13 - 08:52 AM (#3501382) Subject: RE: BS: I can't walk a mile in your skin From: Bobert That was my point, JtS... B~ |
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10 Apr 13 - 09:00 AM (#3501385) Subject: RE: BS: I can't walk a mile in your skin From: Jim Dixon The lyrics are here as well as a playable audio file: http://rapgenius.com/Brad-paisley-accidental-racist-lyrics (By the way, that's an interestingly-constructed website. Besides displaying the lyrics, it apparently allows users to post their own commentary on the lyrics. Click on any line of the lyrics and it will bring up someone's comment, plus other people's replies to that comment, etc. I was recently wishing we had something like that for, say, the State of the Union address—provided that the people making the comments had some expertise—but I digress.) While I can see the value of a dialog, I have to say, some of this is rather weak. For example: "If you don't judge my do-rag, I won't judge your red [Confederate] flag" "If you don't judge my gold chains, I'll forget the iron chains" I don't see the moral equivalency in those comparisons. By the way, shouldn't this thread be in the music section? And I wish the title of the song had been put in the title of the thread. |
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10 Apr 13 - 10:35 AM (#3501420) Subject: RE: BS: I can't walk a mile in your skin From: Bobert Yes, Jim, those are some weak lines... Like I said, Paisley gets credit for his courage in engaging a conversation about race and given he is a country singer he couldn't go but so far without be black balled (like they did to the Dixie Chicks) but I'd loved for him to go a little further on the flag issue... BTW, there was a guy who showed up one night at the Washington Post discussion board using the Confederate Flag as his handle, or whatever it's called and I took him to task, then complained to the Post and the flag has been taken down... His stupid argument is the same old "Heritage not Hate" to which I responded, "Yeah, a heritage of slavery, Jim Crow and racism"... Now back to the song... B~ |
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10 Apr 13 - 04:39 PM (#3501576) Subject: RE: BS: I can't walk a mile in your skin From: Desert Dancer There are From Ta-Nehisi Coates at The Atlantic: - Why 'Accidental Racist' Is Actually Just Racist I can understand why an artist like Paisley would be attracted to an artist like LL Cool J. I can't for the life of me understand why he'd choose LL Cool J to begin "a conversation" to reconcile. Rap is overrun with artists who've spent some portion of their career attempting to have "a conversation." There's Chuck D. There's Big Daddy Kane. There's KRS-ONE. There's Talib. There's Mos Def. There's Kendrick Lamar. There's Black Thought. There's Dead Prez. And so on. - Against the 'Conversation on Race' One of the problems with the idea that America needs a "Conversation On Race" is that it presumes that "America" has something intelligent to say about race. All you need do is look at how American history is taught in this country to realize that that is basically impossible. From Alyssa Rosenberg at ThinkProgress: What Brad Paisley And LL Cool J Don't Understand About Accidents In "Accidental Racist" Most definitions of "accident" require that an incident that fits that description meet two criteria: that the event in question be both unintended and unforseeable. And it's characteristic of our conversations about race that when someone causes offense, they insist that they aren't culpable because their actions or speech were unintended, ignoring the question of possible foresight. It's a means of defending yourself that puts responsibility for offense on the person who is offended, painting them as paranoid, suspicious, and generally lacking in good faith, and that allows people who are careless about race to avoid actual responsibility for hurting others. And it's a defense that would be impossible for most people to make if they stepped back and weighed the question of whether, despite their intentions, their actions or speech could be foreseen to cause harm or summon up painful history. Kim Ruehl at No Depression: - When well-meaning topical music goes terribly wrong What Paisley perhaps intended was to create a song which presented a conversation between White and Black, about letting go of the past and finding common ground to move forward as a unified front toward a more peaceful world. As a songwriter, Kim Ruehl has lots more to say from that perspective that might interest Mudcatters. ~ Becky in Long Beach |
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11 Apr 13 - 12:48 AM (#3501650) Subject: RE: BS: I can't walk a mile in your skin From: Jack the Sailor Yeah Guys, I've read several people commenting on those lines. I agree! |
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11 Apr 13 - 01:22 AM (#3501658) Subject: RE: BS: I can't walk a mile in your skin From: Jack the Sailor Becky in Long Beach were you thinking about this when you chose these Your second quote says that Americans are too ignorant to have a conversation about race. The third one implies that everyone is smart enough not to give offense by accident. :-) Maybe we do need a conversation. |
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18 Apr 13 - 10:45 AM (#3505297) Subject: RE: BS: I can't walk a mile in your skin From: Jack the Sailor Colbert weighs in |