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16 Nov 99 - 09:47 AM (#136776) Subject: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Peter T. With luck, Andres from Mudcat and I will be meeting in Buenos Aires, Argentina, this Friday, and swapping 'cattery. Will report back! yours, Peter T. |
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16 Nov 99 - 10:03 AM (#136783) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: katlaughing How very KOOL, Peter! Have a wonderful and safe trip. Hugs to Andres and you! Send pictures! luvyaKat |
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16 Nov 99 - 11:01 AM (#136812) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Roger the skiffler Have a great time, guys, but beware the siren song of the tiple, do not be tempted! |
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16 Nov 99 - 01:09 PM (#136859) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Little Neophyte Bye,bye Peter Don't eat anything you can't identify Little Neo |
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16 Nov 99 - 11:03 PM (#137160) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Escamillo Within three days it will be revealed that Mudcatters DO EXIST ! I'll have the great pleasure of meeting Peter T. in Buenos Aires. I was planning to harass him with beef, but Alas!- he doesn't have much time. Anyway, someone else will do. Since we haven't seen each other, I will wear my bright toreador's suit and enter the hotel's lobby singing the "Toreador, en Gaaaaaardeee!!", just to not disturb people. More comments soon. Yours, Andrés Magré |
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16 Nov 99 - 11:19 PM (#137166) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: alison see if you can round up alastair UK while you're there... he hasn't been around for a while.... slainte alison |
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16 Nov 99 - 11:36 PM (#137183) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: catspaw49 I'm very happy for you Andres, and I know thst you and Peter will enjoy yourselves immensely. Please take some pictures for the Resources page because this is a big meeting for all of us. And Peter...If I might be so bold as to ask this, WHAT'S TO BECOME OF THE HERON WHILE YOU'RE AWAY?!?!?!?! ....Geeziz, poor guy......Look, just this once, I'll take him for the time you're gone. Maybe he and Cleigh can play together. But next time, have a care and make sure the heron's taken into account when you plan. And you might want to give the cockpit crew a quick psych evaluation and check on their religious beliefs too. Just a thought........ Spaw |
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17 Nov 99 - 10:32 AM (#137338) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: WyoWoman Vaya con Dios, Peter T. Take pictures!!!!! Have a swell time and think of us occasionally as you're eating that wonderful, wonderful food and making beautiful music together. (I mean that in the best possible way...) WW |
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17 Nov 99 - 10:50 AM (#137352) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Mbo "What's new, Buenos Aires? Get this--Escamillo and Peter T. are meeting! Whoa! They'll put on a show! With just a little bit of 'Cat quality!" --Mbo (have fun, guys!) |
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17 Nov 99 - 07:05 PM (#137588) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: paddymac There is indeed a great wealth of trad music in America del Sur. Not being fluent in spanish, I am limited to enjoyment for the instrumental value. Folks down there play many different kinds of stringed instruments, which give the music a much fuller sound than we're accustomed to further north. Maybe someone with a better grasp of theory can explain the phenom more clearly. I think it would be grand it more SA folk were available to 'Catters. |
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17 Nov 99 - 11:28 PM (#137745) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Escamillo Thanks to all for your good wishes ! PaddyMac, certainly I could contribute as much as my knowledge reaches, and could also send you CDs or sheet music or lyrics, because I'm located very close to the sources. Please tell me what you are interested in, and prepare to withstand a long speech. Best regards, Andrés Magré (as a singer, an excellent programmer) |
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18 Nov 99 - 12:59 AM (#137775) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: j0_77 Envy green with envy grrrr - tango and waiters and good wine and Argentina - I am crying - grrrrrrrr... Cafes,
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18 Nov 99 - 05:03 AM (#137813) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Escamillo Alison, I would look for "Alastair UK" if you can give me some clue, where he/she was resident the last time ? Do you have his/her name or e-mail, or work place ? Yours, Andrés Magré |
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18 Nov 99 - 06:09 AM (#137822) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Allan C. Alastair UK was in Brazil the last I heard and was trying to promote some small traditional music groups with an eye toward bookings in the U.S. and elsewhere. |
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18 Nov 99 - 08:25 PM (#138140) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: annamill Escamillo (Andres) I am so jealous. First, Buenos Aires.. then you meet Peter T. I'm so jealous. 'spaw..while Peter is gone we'll sing the "Heron" a "Carol"..get it..Heron's Carol..never mind. Have a wonderful time and be careful Peter. Have fun, Andres. (I'm so jealous) Love, annap |
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19 Nov 99 - 12:33 AM (#138250) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Escamillo Allan C., I'm sorry I can do nothing to locate Alastair. Brazil is too far from here and the nickname doesn't help us. Perhaps somebody can provide more info ? Yours, Andrés Magré PS: this night I sang a duet with a beautiful gal, from "My Fair Lady", The Street Where You Live, arranged for two voices. What a pleasure! The musicians: the Cirigliano Trio (played with Bill Evans, Ray Coniff, Lalo Schiffrin, and lots of stars) Unfortunately Peter T. is busy, tomorrow I'll meet him. |
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19 Nov 99 - 12:47 AM (#138252) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Escamillo Annap, your jealousy is a cumpliment for me and Peter and my city, which certainly is one of the 6 largest in the world and has a rich cultural tradition, especially in music. Thank you, please don't forget to tell me whenever you may come to the South of the South. Yours, Andrés Magré
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20 Nov 99 - 12:26 AM (#138642) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Escamillo As I write this, I'm enjoying Rick Fielding's CD "This One's the Dreamer". I can assure to anybody who have not met Peter T. personally, that he not only seems to be (by his postings) an intelligent and sensible man, transmitting lots of good will to people, he really IS that and is also a true gentleman. (Appart from being also an important professional and Univ.teacher, as you may know). So I've been so lucky, I only expect to receive him in Buenos Aires sometime the next year with a little more of his time, to bring him to some real folk and alcohol places ! (It was only one hour this time - he had a very busy schedule) But I'm so happy with this meeting ! More on Saturday nigth, after Peter arrives back home. He carries some CDs from the local folk (modern, universalized) singer Leon Gieco who may be in the taste of many Mudcatters. A will to visit lower Canada is growing on me, as I hear.... But if you won't come happily, Some night down in a pub We'll get you drunk and press you And persuade you with a club Yours, Andrés Magré
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22 Nov 99 - 09:30 AM (#139486) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Senor Peter T. Ahi, Caramba, Andaly (and other fake Disney Spanish). A brief borrowed five minutes at a local Uruguayan computer! There were purple jacarandas in bloom along the avenida in Buenos Aires, and the sweeping jangle of tango guitars could almost be heard in the Borgesian night. In the Hotel Intercontinental, beside two Japanese businessmen and their sweating local partner carving up the Paraguayan market in cameras ("the border is the place, the cheapest cameras in the world, it is, how they say in English, rotten"), Andres and I exchange bootleg CDs, destined to overthrow several countries. We smile, and talk about other things, but Rick Fielding´s album is injected into the vida loca....Alas, as Andres reported, we have had onl y a few minutes together, but we agreed that Mudcat is a unique community of loca vidas. We will get together again soon. Hasta luego. un abrazo, Peter T. |
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23 Nov 99 - 11:19 PM (#140169) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Escamillo It's nice to see that my friend Peter can't separate poetry from the events of daily life. That's how it should be, and how I would like visitors to see this oversized, overcrazy city where everybody pretends to be a singer, or an actor, or a politician. How could an argentine not get caught by a title as Mudcat CAFE , when we have grown up in cafes, discussing about Lenin, women, Chaplin, women, Gardel, women, Perón, etc.etc.! Rick's CD will now pass from hand to hand, let's see if we open a market (why a market? let's call it an AUDIENCE), and enjoy that wonderful music. Yours, Andrés Magré |
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24 Nov 99 - 05:42 PM (#140416) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Allan C. Once again someone discovers the wonder of actually seeing that the people who post here are honest-to-goodness living souls! I have been blessed in that way a number of times within this past few months. There is nothing can describe the exhilaration! I hope many, many more of us get to have this wonderful experience soon. And, from what I hear from Max, it may just become a more common experience. Max has said he is trying to plan what he refers to as a "couch tour" of Mudcatters. Truth is, I had a similar idea at about the same moment. I am not sure when Max's adventure will take place, but mine will likely be in late May or early June. I doubt I will get as far south as Peter did, but I hope to get around quite a bit. I'll let you all know more when the event becomes more eminent. |
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25 Nov 99 - 01:30 AM (#140545) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Escamillo Allan, in the event that a group of Mudcatters travels South, and reach these pampas, I would not only have the pleasure of meeting them, but also it would be an opportunity to contact important artists (other than Escamillo) to prepare for a memorable musical meeting. Please don't forget to keep me informed with some anticipation. Yours, Andrés Magré |
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25 Nov 99 - 10:58 PM (#140814) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: WyoWoman I may need to get a bigger sofa ... (But I'd most certainly be happy to have the company.) Might I recommend this region in the window of time from June through October? November is do-able. I just don't think getting caught in a blizzard with the highways closed in January is quite the ticket. But summer and fall are splendid. And this is a part of the country one simply must see. Must, I tell you. WyoWoman |
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29 Nov 99 - 12:21 PM (#142165) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Peter T. Well, Mudcatters, Andres does exist, and is a fine gentleman in his own right. It is a pity we only had a few minutes to exchange contraband, but we have vowed to descend into the depths next time around. When I saw him last he was working his way into the top choir in the country -- which, given the sophistication of Argentineans, is something. Also, alas, I didn't get to hear him sing. That too, awaits. Andres, now that I have these great albums (by Leon Gieco), you have to give me some information -- for instance, is the Canterville Ghost Victor Jara? Which of the songs is the most famous (or, to put it another way) which did the Argentinean military hate the most? From the liner notes I can see that he was in big trouble from time to time -- are some of these coded songs? un abrazo, Peter |
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29 Nov 99 - 09:59 PM (#142406) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Escamillo León Gieco is one of the main pop artists in Argentina, and surely for this reason he got problems with the military, some years ago (fortunately, we are now celebrating the 4th consecutive civilian transfer of government, for once in a century or so). Anything that doesn't move, just PAINT it. Anything that thinks, put it in jail or make it disappear. Those were the orders in those times. I think you're right, Victor Jara may well be the Ghost mentioned by Gieco in his song. The most famous (if not musically the best) of his songs is EN EL PAIS DE LA LIBERTAD, which verses say: BUSQUENME, ME ENCONTRARAN.. EN EL PAIS DE LA LIBERTAD! (look for me, you'll find me ... in FREEDOM LAND ) Gieco's melodies and rythms are highly influenced by USA folk and south latin America, I find some of them a delicious combination which stand for themselves in history of a whole-american folk if this should exist. Looking for a further opportunity to serve all Mudcatters to dig a little in Argentine and general southern music. Un abrazo - Andrés |
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30 Nov 99 - 10:55 AM (#142628) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Peter T. Thanks, Andres, and I now have a completely different EMERGENCY REQUEST!!!!!!!!!! I have to go to a Christmas party on December 17, and my hostess (who comes from Venezuela) wants to sing Christmas songs. What Christmas songs do people sing in Latin America? What are the most famous? I have to learn one or two by then. HELP!!!!! un abrazo, Peter P.S. Did I say HELP!!! |
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01 Dec 99 - 03:03 AM (#143082) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Escamillo The most popular here is NOCHE DE PAZ, which origin is possibly Spanish, and is pretty good for soloist, and also many beautiful choral arrangements were made. Let me try some sources on the net, otherwise I'll make a MIDI file. In Venezuela the Christmas songs are called GAITAS and come from the state of Zulia, in the venezuelan West, they would make a wonderful surprise, but Alas! I don't have any CD. Again, I'll try in the net, and come back tomorrow. Un abrazo - see you in the Cantina - Andrés |
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01 Dec 99 - 06:15 AM (#143095) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Escamillo Pedro, try www.navidadlatina.com/midis , there are some midis of Noche de Paz and many others. Also try the midi search engine www.musicrobot.com and search by title. In the meantime, I keep looking for other sources. Un abrazo, Andrés |
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01 Dec 99 - 09:14 AM (#143135) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Peter T. Andres, thanks a million, it is greatly appreciated. I would love to do a Venezuelan song for the hostess, she would be thrilled! I will hunt up the sheet music in the local Music Library. Un abrazo, Peter T. |
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01 Dec 99 - 10:42 AM (#143162) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: WyoWoman Andres, No entiendo este palabra "abrazo," y no puedo que busquar mi diccionario. Que es? (Forgive my lousy spelling. It's been a while...) WW |
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01 Dec 99 - 12:15 PM (#143202) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Peter T. Oh, WW, sigh, what an opening! It means an embrace, un abrazo, Generalissimo WW, La Wyowoman, (eat your slow heart out, Andres, get in line). yours, Peter T, |
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02 Dec 99 - 01:13 AM (#143538) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Escamillo Dear La Wyo, as Pedro says, UN ABRAZO is A HUG. Variations are: UN GRAN ABRAZO = A BIG (BEAR) HUG UN ABRAZO DE HERMANO = A BROTHER'S HUG UN ABRAZO LIBERTARIO = (oops - truly anarchist, but so emotional) UN ABRAZO DE LOS OTROS = (mmh.. no, doesn't have a translation) :)) See you in the CANTINA ! - Yours, Andrés
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02 Dec 99 - 02:51 PM (#143736) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Peter T. Andres, would Noche de Paz be "Silent Night" (Pastor Gruber's song?) -- Silent night, holy night, all is calm, all is bright, etc.? Would you have the Spanish words? That one I know!! Placido Domingo sings one called "La virgin lava panales" (???) Is this well known? (Questions, questions). un abrazo, Peter T. |
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02 Dec 99 - 04:19 PM (#143777) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Dani COUCH TOUR?! I love it. Perhaps we could LEAPFROG on tour? Escort each other to the next stop? Hmmmmm.... Tag-team mudcatting? Dani |
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02 Dec 99 - 04:30 PM (#143782) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Allan C. Sounds good to me, Dani! |
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02 Dec 99 - 05:41 PM (#143801) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Peter T. Famous Venezualan folk song:
ALMA LLANERA
Yo nací en una ribera
Me arrulló la viva Diana
Amo, lloro, canto, sueño,
Yo nací en una ribera |
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03 Dec 99 - 12:35 AM (#144017) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Escamillo Wait, El Pedro! That lyrics are for a female singer, or a male singer not very sure ! I'll find the male variant tonight. And the Spanish lyrics of Noche de Paz, which is the same as you say. Viva Venezuela, carajo ! (you have to start learning some socially-accepted obscenities, too!) Un abrazo, Andrés |
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03 Dec 99 - 10:17 AM (#144116) Subject: RE: Mudcat Goes South American!! From: Peter T. sure glad you told me!!! un abrazo, Peter |