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Permission to record? (UK)

23 Apr 14 - 01:52 AM (#3621416)
Subject: Permission to record?
From: GUEST,Fyldeplayer

I have several covers ( contemporary ) that I play live in folk clubs that I would like to record to CD for sale. Is it polite/nesscary to contact the performers in question or what licence ( links please ) will allow this process? I have looked at Limited Manufacture Licence for example.

Thanks in advance


23 Apr 14 - 03:36 AM (#3621425)
Subject: RE: Permission to record? (UK)
From: Joe Offer

I added (UK) to the thread title for clarification. I know how to license songs for recording in the U.S. but it will be interesting to see how it's done in the UK.
Best of luck with your recording.

-Joe Offer, Mudcat Music Editor-


23 Apr 14 - 04:08 AM (#3621436)
Subject: RE: Permission to record? (UK)
From: GUEST,Seaham cemetry

My Dad had dealings with The Performing Right Society, who handle copyright etc.

That was a good few years ago though.


23 Apr 14 - 04:17 AM (#3621439)
Subject: RE: Permission to record? (UK)
From: GUEST,Peter

The BBC website has this information

This link may be of interest as it is an account by a musician of the process but seems to involve an English performer and US material.

Google will find you a lot more, search on
"recording cover songs copyright uk"


23 Apr 14 - 04:39 AM (#3621448)
Subject: RE: Permission to record? (UK)
From: Musket

We found there was a bit of a difference between song writers who were part of PRS and those who didn't qualify for membership. The latter included finding them (pre internet) and asking, (usually flattered for the acknowledgment) whilst the former was a much more straight forward royalty based on agreement of one off or per sale. Once we had a recording contract with a fair sized label, this was done by their people.

I'm rather out of date I'm afraid.


23 Apr 14 - 04:41 AM (#3621450)
Subject: RE: Permission to record? (UK)
From: Richard Bridge

mcps


23 Apr 14 - 05:30 AM (#3621469)
Subject: RE: Permission to record? (UK)
From: Doug Chadwick

mcps ?

What does that stand for, please?

DC


23 Apr 14 - 05:54 AM (#3621486)
Subject: RE: Permission to record? (UK)
From: doc.tom

Mechanical Copyright Protection Society


23 Apr 14 - 08:16 AM (#3621535)
Subject: RE: Permission to record? (UK)
From: Doug Chadwick

Thanks

DC


23 Apr 14 - 09:30 AM (#3621561)
Subject: RE: Permission to record? (UK)
From: GUEST

One thing I'd be vaguely interested in knowing, which I don't think any of those links cover, is what you have to do if you're not planning on charging anything. If you're releasing something for free.


23 Apr 14 - 09:36 AM (#3621563)
Subject: RE: Permission to record? (UK)
From: GUEST,#

Get permission from the copyright holder would be my suggestion.


23 Apr 14 - 09:56 AM (#3621573)
Subject: RE: Permission to record? (UK)
From: GUEST,Chubby Knockers

Similar question - What is required procedure if UK based home studio recording hobbyists
just want to record covers and post them to Youtube and misc online musician's sites ?


23 Apr 14 - 05:08 PM (#3621715)
Subject: RE: Permission to record? (UK)
From: Anne Lister

It's courteous to ask the copyright holder for both of the above questions but it doesn't always happen. It's also courteous to let them have a copy of or a link to the relevant output. There may be legal stuff in there as well, but I'm a great believer in being polite and letting the creator of the material know that their song or tune is being covered.
If you're selling copies of the recording then yes, there is a royalty issue for sure. For all legal stuff, contact MCPS and simply ask.


23 Apr 14 - 05:47 PM (#3621736)
Subject: RE: Permission to record? (UK)
From: Richard Bridge

As Anne Lister says - MCPS.


23 Apr 14 - 07:14 PM (#3621747)
Subject: RE: Permission to record? (UK)
From: Joe Offer

I guess MCPS is an acronym that no longer has a name, or at least its name isn't listed on the home page of its Website, http://www.prsformusic.com/. Here's what the Website says:
    PRS for Music is the home of PRS and MCPS, representing the rights of over 100,000 members in the UK. We license organisations to play, perform or make available copyright music on behalf of our members and those of overseas societies, distributing the royalties to them fairly and efficiently. We promote and protect the value of copyright.

It doesn't say what PRS is, either.

I hate acronyms.

But the Website does appear to offer the help you need in getting permissions, once you get past the acronymns....IMHO.

-Joe-

Yes, I know:
    PRS=Performing Right Society
    MCPS=Mechanical Copyright Protection Society


23 Apr 14 - 09:23 PM (#3621764)
Subject: RE: Permission to record? (UK)
From: Richard Bridge

MECHANICAL-COPYRIGHT PROTECTION SOCIETY LIMITED
6TH FLOOR BRITISH MUSIC HOUSE
26 BERNERS STREET
LONDON
W1T 3LR
Company No. 00199120