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22 Jun 14 - 08:23 AM (#3635553) Subject: Hymn tune Herongate From: ian1943 Everytime I sing this hymn, I see that it is a traditional tune and it must be a song because of its languidness, Does anyone know what song and its words? |
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22 Jun 14 - 10:25 AM (#3635581) Subject: RE: Hymn tune Herongate From: GUEST,# Melody available here as midi file. |
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22 Jun 14 - 10:33 AM (#3635584) Subject: RE: Hymn tune Herongate From: WindhoverWeaver It was collected by Ralph Vaughan Williams in 1906 at Herongate, Essex. The original title of the song seems to have been "Come All You Merry Sportsmen" sung by Mr. Bell, but I cannot find the lyrics online. It is catalogued as Roud #5699. Hope this helps. |
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22 Jun 14 - 10:41 AM (#3635586) Subject: RE: Hymn tune Herongate From: GUEST,# http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=120607#2643758 That thread may be of help. |
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22 Jun 14 - 10:56 AM (#3635588) Subject: RE: Hymn tune Herongate From: Brian Peters Sorry to disagree, folks, but 'Herongate' is based on a song called 'In Jessie's City', which RVW collected at Ingrave, just up the road from Herongate (and is listed as such, with a whole bunch of other hymn settings, in Kennedy's 'The Works of Ralph Vaughan Williams). The song is one of the 'Died For Love' / 'Tavern in the Town' family, aka 'In London City' or 'The Butcher Boy' - although here it's a postman boy who is the unfaithful lover. The Full English: 'In Jessie's City' |
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22 Jun 14 - 12:48 PM (#3635620) Subject: RE: Hymn tune Herongate From: GUEST,# I likely screwed up. Forget my posts. Sorry. |
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22 Jun 14 - 01:03 PM (#3635625) Subject: RE: Hymn tune Herongate From: WindhoverWeaver Brian, I am quite happy to bow to your supperior knowledge here. My post was based on the entry in the online RVW index at C#, where the song I mentioned was collected at herongate (and is the only one so collected). |
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22 Jun 14 - 04:26 PM (#3635714) Subject: RE: Hymn tune Herongate From: Brian Peters WW, you were quite correct in thinking that RVW usually named his hymn tunes after the place of collection. In fact I was confused myself at first (when asked by a classical musician friend to work this stuff out) by the fact that the 'Herongate' tune was collected at Ingrave, while RVW used 'Ingrave' as the title for a different tune set to 'There's a Friend for Little Children'. It was only when I saw on Google Maps how close the villages were that I realised how this might have happened. |
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23 Jun 14 - 02:49 PM (#3636077) Subject: RE: Hymn tune Herongate From: ian1943 I am well pleased with the answer from Brian, I have deciphered the handwritten text and it is not a happy tale which suits me and the tune well |