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'A Load Of Who Shot John>? Meaning and o

26 Jul 14 - 11:12 AM (#3645471)
Subject: 'A Load Of Who Shot John>? Meaning and o
From: RoyH (Burl)

I was watching television last night when the phrase 'Thats a Load of Who Shot John' was spoken. Now I've heard lots of American sayings and slang but never before heard this one. Can anyone tell me what it means, and what is its origin? I look forward to hearing from you. ROY


26 Jul 14 - 11:33 AM (#3645476)
Subject: RE: 'A Load Of Who Shot John>? Meaning and o
From: GUEST

I believe the "A load of" is separate from the basic saying,
which is "Who Shot John".

"Okay," you may ask, "What's with this 'Who Shot John?' then?"

If that's it, then it's a reference to the situation where
there are competing claims about who gets blamed, like,
"Dick hit me first." answered by Dick with, "No, Ralph hit ME first."
And in either case, it's hard for an authority figure to sort out,
because of the competing and otherwise unsubstantiated claims.

So "It's a load of who shot John" is in effect saying, "We're
being fed a bunch of finger-pointing, with only personal claims either way."

Its origin? Damfino.

Dave Oesterreich


26 Jul 14 - 11:45 AM (#3645477)
Subject: RE: 'A Load Of Who Shot John>? Meaning and o
From: Jeri

In the phrase "A load of who shot John", remove "who" and "John" and replace the "o" in "shot" with an "i". I see it as similar to "shut the front door", in which "front" is replaced with another "f" word, and "door" can be replaced with "up". Most people (I believe) will figure out you're swearing without you actually having to swear.


26 Jul 14 - 11:54 AM (#3645478)
Subject: RE: 'A Load Of Who Shot John>? Meaning and o
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Thanks, Dave. I thought that is the meaning, but I wasn't sure.


26 Jul 14 - 12:30 PM (#3645482)
Subject: RE: 'A Load Of Who Shot John>? Meaning and o
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

See the NY Times column, "On Language; Who Shot John?" by William Safire, Dec. 21, 1986, on line.

He discusses possible origins. The column also discusses a number of other expressions, such as "a Charleston butterfly," and "a Rocky Mountain canary."


26 Jul 14 - 02:34 PM (#3645503)
Subject: RE: 'A Load Of Who Shot John>? Meaning and o
From: Jeri

What everybody except me said. At least I learned something!


26 Jul 14 - 06:26 PM (#3645530)
Subject: RE: 'A Load Of Who Shot John>? Meaning and o
From: BrooklynJay

I always associated the phrase with American actor John Wayne:

In his last movie (The Shootist, 1976), he refers to whiskey as "Who Hit John". A number of years later, I was reading a book about Wayne (can't remember the title, sorry) and it seems the phrase was one he used in his private life to refer to booze. Adding it to the script of the movie was a sort of inside joke.

I never knew it had other origins. Interesting.


Jay


27 Jul 14 - 05:34 AM (#3645605)
Subject: RE: 'A Load Of Who Shot John>? Meaning and o
From: RoyH (Burl)

Thanks for your answers folks. I'm inclined to the Dave Oesterreich version seeing that the TV show I heard it in was a courtroom drama. Thanks again. Mudcat is the place for answers. ROY


27 Jul 14 - 08:48 AM (#3645652)
Subject: RE: 'A Load Of Who Shot John>? Meaning and o
From: GUEST,#

http://www.word-detective.com/2012/02/who-shot-john/


18 Sep 17 - 08:09 AM (#3877510)
Subject: RE: 'A Load Of Who Shot John>? Meaning and o
From: GUEST,Me

I'd say it simply means "A load of nonsense".


19 Sep 17 - 01:01 PM (#3877702)
Subject: RE: 'A Load Of Who Shot John>? Meaning and o
From: GUEST,keberoxu

The expression
"WHo shot John"
pops up in the memoirs of Minnesota Fats.


22 Sep 17 - 11:37 AM (#3878169)
Subject: RE: 'A Load Of Who Shot John>? Meaning and o
From: GUEST

Good ol' Judge Judy