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15 Sep 14 - 01:26 PM (#3660519) Subject: An alternative definition of a folk song From: Bert It is the first song that you start singing when you get in the car and drive off. (No bitching in this thread. It is just for fun.) |
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15 Sep 14 - 02:11 PM (#3660539) Subject: RE: An alternative definition of a folk song From: MGM·Lion Cease your funning. Force nor cunning Never shall my thread trepan. |
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15 Sep 14 - 02:21 PM (#3660543) Subject: RE: An alternative definition of a folk song From: Steve Gardham A song that I just wrote before 1860 and had published along with about 50 more in a book I called 'Folk Songs' in 1860! Message sent via a medium. |
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15 Sep 14 - 02:24 PM (#3660546) Subject: RE: An alternative definition of a folk song From: The Sandman anything approved by Jim Carroll |
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15 Sep 14 - 02:33 PM (#3660553) Subject: RE: An alternative definition of a folk song From: johncharles folk song checklist 1.sex 2. violence 3. death 4. magic 5. child abuse 6. love 7.tokens of love ( often broken) 8.innuendo ( ware the cuckoos nest) 9. cross dressing 10. farming / fishing / fol de rolling. 11. marriage to someone unsuitable 12. lords and ladies 13. war soldiers and sailors Tick four or more and you probably have a folk song john |
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15 Sep 14 - 02:51 PM (#3660565) Subject: RE: An alternative definition of a folk song From: GUEST,Stim A song that every one has always known, but that no one actually likes. |
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15 Sep 14 - 03:55 PM (#3660584) Subject: RE: An alternative definition of a folk song From: GUEST,Rahere Many songs get folked up by the performers (well, I think that's what the rest of the band said...) |
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15 Sep 14 - 05:02 PM (#3660601) Subject: RE: An alternative definition of a folk song From: Phil Cooper If the protagonist lives at the end of the song, it's pop. If he dies, it's folk. Credit songwriter Ben Bedford for this line. |
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16 Sep 14 - 02:55 AM (#3660694) Subject: RE: An alternative definition of a folk song From: Bert Nice one Good Soldier Schweik. |
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16 Sep 14 - 04:44 AM (#3660707) Subject: RE: An alternative definition of a folk song From: Jim Carroll "anything approved by Jim Carroll" Do you have to make every discussion a personal attack Dick Henceforth thou shalt be known as 'The Skibbereen Stalker' go forth and spread thy message to the world. Jim Carroll |
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16 Sep 14 - 04:58 AM (#3660713) Subject: RE: An alternative definition of a folk song From: Bert Oh come on Jim, he got you there. You do have a tendency to take this subject rather seriously. Don't worry, we still love you. |
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16 Sep 14 - 05:01 AM (#3660714) Subject: RE: An alternative definition of a folk song From: Les in Chorlton Anything sung in a folk club since 19 .................... |
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16 Sep 14 - 05:08 AM (#3660718) Subject: RE: An alternative definition of a folk song From: GUEST,Grishka Singing in the shower or alone in the car etc. certainly is a mark of popularity in some sense. However, it seems that most such singers only sing a short passage, and do not intend it to be a complete musical experience. A "song that is being sung by folks" must be sung essentially completely (though some verses may be missing) and with full deliberation. As we saw on other recent threads, some pop songs made it into that league, but the barriers are high. Pop producers want "fans", not embezzlers. |
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16 Sep 14 - 05:13 AM (#3660719) Subject: RE: An alternative definition of a folk song From: Jim Carroll "Oh come on Jim, he got you there. " No he hasn't Bert - I've become very tired of his string of abusive hate mail - don't get involved unless you have a good power-shower at home "You do have a tendency to take this subject rather seriously" Yes - I do - so do a lot of other people -not at clubs any longer, it would appear. Jim Carroll |
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16 Sep 14 - 05:27 AM (#3660723) Subject: RE: An alternative definition of a folk song From: Musket And there was me thinking folk clubs were the entertainment output end of a musical genre. Not to mention group therapy... |
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16 Sep 14 - 05:29 AM (#3660725) Subject: RE: An alternative definition of a folk song From: Bert There's nothing wrong with taking folk music seriously, we all do, that is why we are here. I didn't see that his posting was hate mail. Just an observation that you have a very positive view of the definition of folk music. As such, I thought that it was a lighthearted amusing comment. He could have just as easily made fun of my very relaxed view of what folk music is. As I said at the beginning, this thread is just for fun, so if you don't want to have fun there are enough serious threads out there for you. |
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16 Sep 14 - 06:09 AM (#3660743) Subject: RE: An alternative definition of a folk song From: Jim Carroll "And there was me thinking folk clubs were the entertainment output end of a musical genre" Like all good art - it works on many levels - entertainment being only one of those It take all art I am interested in seriously - on as many levels as they offer Jim Carroll |
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16 Sep 14 - 06:21 AM (#3660748) Subject: RE: An alternative definition of a folk song From: Musket On another thread I have been quoting the conductor Sir Thomas Beecham. I think one of his is fitting here. "The English don't appreciate music but they love the sound it makes." The antithesis of that being, I suppose, dissecting a fluffy bunny to see how it works. As a teenager doing my music exams, I came to love many pieces with a passion. But having had to analyse Mozart's 40th, bar by bleeding bar, I find that in later years I cannot enjoy it. Not even The Wombles "Minuetto Allegretto" for that matter. |
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16 Sep 14 - 06:43 AM (#3660756) Subject: RE: An alternative definition of a folk song From: Stanron Folk songs used to be 'vernacular' songs. Nowadays some vernacular songs aren't allowed to be called folk songs and a lot of what are allowed to be called folk songs are not vernacular songs, Funny innit? |
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16 Sep 14 - 09:26 AM (#3660791) Subject: RE: An alternative definition of a folk song From: The Sandman I am not from Skibbereen. yet another of your inaccurate statements. |
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16 Sep 14 - 10:49 AM (#3660813) Subject: RE: An alternative definition of a folk song From: Jim Carroll "I am not from Skibbereen. yet another of your inaccurate statements." Only partially inaccurate then - great alliteration though. But t'will serve for future use if necessary. "Nowadays some vernacular songs aren't allowed to be called folk songs " Never come across that Stan - care to expand? Jim Carroll |
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16 Sep 14 - 11:07 AM (#3660816) Subject: RE: An alternative definition of a folk song From: The Sandman totally inaccurate, mean while since you like call names, here is better alliteration jim carroll the clown from clare whose claptrap contains contententious cods wallop. |
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16 Sep 14 - 12:40 PM (#3660840) Subject: RE: An alternative definition of a folk song From: dick greenhaus One requirement for a song to qualify as a folk song is that it that it from a cultural group other than your own----otherwise it' just music. |
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16 Sep 14 - 01:56 PM (#3660862) Subject: RE: An alternative definition of a folk song From: Bert Play nicely guys. Don't make me come down there. |