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08 Nov 15 - 10:35 AM (#3749252) Subject: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: Thompson Free to download too. If you're American, you can adopt one for a tax deductible $60 and have it digitised too. |
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08 Nov 15 - 10:49 AM (#3749258) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: Thompson Including a 1913 version of Come Back to Erin which must have been brought home and heard in many Irish homes pre-1916 - unfortunately not yet digitised. They have various nationality sections, but have weirdly subsumed the few Irish tunes I could find under 'British'. Do they not realise what offence this will cause? |
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08 Nov 15 - 11:02 AM (#3749261) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: cnd Thanks for sharing! If you want to browse them, you can view it here: http://cylinders.library.ucsb.edu/browse.php |
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08 Nov 15 - 02:33 PM (#3749311) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: Jack Campin They have various nationality sections, but have weirdly subsumed the few Irish tunes I could find under 'British'. Do they not realise what offence this will cause? I couldn't find many, but the first Irish-connected song I could find was "The dear little shamrock", sung by two Welshmen. (I now know where the tune for "M-hm" came from; thanks). Trying to avoid causing offence to Irish-Americans is a waste of time. |
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08 Nov 15 - 04:15 PM (#3749324) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: Steve Gardham Wow! What a collection! So far I've found a 1925 recording of the Boston Burglar and a 1928 recording of 'The Old Maid and the Burglar' one of the 'spare part' songs. But no.275 on the Popular Music to 1901 list is a wonderful 1894 recording of 'Roll the Woodpile Down' accompanied on banjo, described as a coon song. at 339 on the same list is a version of 'I Wish they'd do it now' which is almost word for word a version I recorded over here in Yorkshire in the 60s. One bit of fun, an interesting version of 'The CLOCK of the North' in strict tempo no doubt. |
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08 Nov 15 - 06:16 PM (#3749340) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: Thompson There are millions of Irish tunes and songs in there. Looking up Roll the Woodpile Down now! |
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08 Nov 15 - 06:20 PM (#3749344) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: Sandra in Sydney what a treasure - I've been looking at the Minstrel playlist as many minstrel shows (African-American & blackface) came to Australia after the Civil War so some of those songs would have been familiar here. Most of the perfromers stayed here. there are 3 articles about African American performers on the late 19th Century stage in Australia at this link - Irving Sayles - The black American who became an Australasian vaudeville star. |
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08 Nov 15 - 06:33 PM (#3749346) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: Will Fly Great resource - thanks for the heads-up - greatly appreciated! |
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08 Nov 15 - 11:06 PM (#3749381) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: GUEST,.gargoyle THANK YOU ! ! ! Sincerely, Gargoyle We live in wonderful times. |
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08 Nov 15 - 11:28 PM (#3749384) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: Stilly River Sage I concur with Garg. Thank you very much! What a resource. I work in a university library that is busy digitizing images, but we also have a lot of analog recordings that will be my job to digitize, once they get the equipment to do it. I love looking at what has been done already. |
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08 Nov 15 - 11:45 PM (#3749393) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: Western Trails I am glad they are digitizing these, so more people can actually hear them! |
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09 Nov 15 - 01:47 AM (#3749400) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: GUEST Thank you for that profound insight, Western Trails. |
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09 Nov 15 - 02:52 AM (#3749401) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: Gibb Sahib Sorry you guys did not all know about this resource, explicitly (there have been links to recordings in Muscat threads now and then)! -- The digitization of cylinders and 78s, etc was begun 15 or so years ago when I was a PhD student there at UC Santa Barbara. I was called in to identify some Indian (South Asian) records. More recently, I have found the accordion recordings to be insightful. To hear the things people could do on the old instruments is humbling. The other great (related) resource at UC Santa Barbara is the English broadside ballad archive. One of its distinguishing features is that the researchers sought (and continue to seek) tunes for the ballads, and they get people to record the ballads sung to the tunes, by way of example. I'm usually hesitant to mention this archive because I sang a number of the ballads for the recordings but, alas, was not in a position to work on the renditions at the time (there was a bit of a press at the time to simply go through quickly and get many recorded) and consequently I'm quite embarrassed about the finished products! http://ebba.english.ucsb.edu |
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09 Nov 15 - 09:14 PM (#3749657) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: Hollowfox Oooo, too bloody cool! And thanks for the added information, Gibb Sahib. And there's no need to hesitate letting us know about another resource, especially if you worked on it. *g* |
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09 Nov 15 - 09:58 PM (#3749667) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: Jim Dixon It looks like they've redesigned the website recently, but it's actually been around quite a while. The first person (I think) who mentioned the website at Mudcat was 12-stringer back in 2006. By my count, I have already transcribed and posted lyrics of 28 songs from this database. 18 of them were by Harry Lauder. To see all of the times the web site has been cited or linked-to at Mudcat, put cylinders.library.ucsb.edu into the "Lyrics & Knowledge Search" box. |
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10 Nov 15 - 12:27 AM (#3749682) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: michaelr It's enough to make one Wax poetic. |
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10 Nov 15 - 02:47 AM (#3749695) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: Thompson Thanks, Jim Dixon - I came running like a puppy with a ball, never thinking someone else might have found it already! Was teaching last night and one of my students said there was a similar library of wax cylinders online from Britain, but then my principal called me and I forgot to ask him what and where it was. I'll ask him again - or perhaps someone here knows? |
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10 Nov 15 - 02:54 AM (#3749698) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: Thompson Aha - thousands of Scottish voices, including music http://www.tobarandualchais.co.uk |
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10 Nov 15 - 10:49 AM (#3749818) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: GUEST,leeneia Thanks, Thompson. The site has a new page: http://cylinders.library.ucsb.edu/index.php I found a couple of good whippoorwill songs. |
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10 Nov 15 - 11:16 AM (#3749824) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: GUEST,crazy little woman about that word "British" Here's a map of the British Isles: https://www.google.com/search?num=30&espv=2&q=british+isles+map&oq=british+isles+map&gs_l=serp.3..0l10.10534.15135.0.16433.19.14.0.0.0.0.222.1493.0j11j1.12.0....0...1c.1.64.serp..9.10.1284.B4jMuhmETFs 'nuff said? |
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10 Nov 15 - 03:06 PM (#3749876) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: Thompson Ah, here's a map of North America; why don't you call all the Canadian and Mexican music American and see how that goes down? |
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10 Nov 15 - 04:21 PM (#3749902) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: Steve Gardham When the majority of these cylinder recordings were made the Irish recordings were actually still part of Britain. We can lament that fact but it is a fact. |
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11 Nov 15 - 03:31 AM (#3749984) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: Thompson Ssssoooo… writings in America before 1776 should be listed as British on the same logic? Fascinating video here of a project by University College, Cork with a reporter with a soft Belfast accent describing the process of digitisation of wax cylinders. |
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11 Nov 15 - 03:44 AM (#3749985) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: Thompson Here is the University College Cork Henebry O'Neill Collection of digitised recordings, by the way. |
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11 Nov 15 - 08:08 AM (#3750007) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: Sandra in Sydney thanks to all for posting links to these collections sandra |
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11 Nov 15 - 09:59 AM (#3750032) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: GUEST,padgett I pinched a link to the collection a day or two ago Brilliant Ray |
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11 Nov 15 - 10:03 AM (#3750035) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: GUEST,Peter Laban For Irish music, don't forget the O'Neill cylinders or th cylinders in the on-line playlists at ITMA. |
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11 Nov 15 - 12:32 PM (#3750065) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: Thompson And UCC is gradually digitising the whole of the O'Neill and Henebry collection, though as far as I can see it's not searchable. |
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11 Nov 15 - 10:04 PM (#3750153) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: GUEST,Peter Laban I meant the O'Neill cylinders thatwere found in the US, not the ones in UCC : Dunn collection |
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12 Nov 15 - 05:40 PM (#3750361) Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised From: Paul Burke Good stuff when you find it in amongst the dross. And a slap in the face to anyone who purses their lips and squeaks "Irish music is dance music- it must be played slow enough to dance to!". They played much as we do now. |