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17 Jan 16 - 04:50 PM (#3766383) Subject: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: GUEST,Peter Brown Can anyone help with the lyrics for Brough Hill Fair please? Any help much appreciated. |
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18 Jan 16 - 05:24 PM (#3766514) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: GUEST,# http://www.parkheadstudio.co.uk/ If you mean the lyrics of Dorothy Una Ratcliffe, I have looked for over two hours on and off and cannot locate them online--which doesn't mean they aren't there somewhere. Perhaps an email to Brian Bedford at the link above would provide the result you seek, in the event no one else responds. If you locate the lyrics it would be ducky to have them on Mudcat if that is permissible. |
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18 Jan 16 - 08:02 PM (#3766549) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: FreddyHeadey You might get the Artisan version on cd. Yorldale... available here Artisan, Albums On ebay at the moment the vinyl version has a booklet with words. In July Artisan should be Sun. 17th Stainsby Folk Festival & Sat.. 23rd Music on the Marr There is also a video by Posh Frock Posh Frock but I can't make out the words. And a dialect poem about Brough Hill Fair here Guy Woolnough |
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19 Jan 16 - 09:06 AM (#3766663) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: GUEST,Jim Williams Hi, I played the banjo on that Posh Frock and Jukebox track. I'll ask the singer if he has the words written out anywhere. |
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19 Jan 16 - 04:49 PM (#3766773) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: GUEST,Peter Brown Thank you all for taking the time to reply to my request and Jim if you can get the words I'd be most grateful. |
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20 Jan 16 - 05:11 AM (#3766881) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: GUEST OK Peter, I'm still waiting for him to get back to me. |
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20 Jan 16 - 08:27 AM (#3766914) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: GUEST,Singerdave I'm as interested as you are Peter so am looking f'wd to a result. I've tried all means but drawing a blank. |
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21 Jan 16 - 09:28 AM (#3767178) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: GUEST,Peter Brown Refresh |
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22 Jan 16 - 06:15 AM (#3767350) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: GUEST,Singerdave Looks as though this request has got everyone stumped but I hope someone can come forward with the lyrics. |
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22 Jan 16 - 08:52 AM (#3767365) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: GUEST,# http://www.parkheadstudio.co.uk/ If you mean the lyrics of Dorothy Una Ratcliffe, I have looked for over two hours on and off and cannot locate them online--which doesn't mean they aren't there somewhere. Perhaps an email to Brian Bedford at the link above would provide the result you seek, in the event no one else responds. If you locate the lyrics it would be ducky to have them on Mudcat if that is permissible. ################################### That is a repeat of the second post to this thread. |
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22 Jan 16 - 08:56 AM (#3767368) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: GUEST,# BTW, Brian Bedford was a member of Artisan. |
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22 Jan 16 - 09:20 AM (#3767376) Subject: Lyr Req: Brough Fair From: GUEST,Singerdave I've followed your recommendation and have e-mailed Brian so will see what the outcome is. |
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22 Jan 16 - 10:01 AM (#3767387) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: GUEST,leeneia I said to myself, "We can do this!", and I started writing down the lyrics from the recording by the band Posh Frock (linked above.) But I give up. It's a mishmash except for a few lines of the chorus. I do get it that in the third verse or so, the singer is blaming the authorities for the regulations that killed the fair. However, sources say that the fair has simply moved to Appleby. Here's a link to a Guardian picture-essay about the fair at Appleby. http://www.theguardian.com/news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/08/appleby-horse-trials-visual-tour ================== How does one pronounce Cheviot? |
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22 Jan 16 - 11:24 AM (#3767400) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: FreddyHeadey Maybe one of us in the UK will have to splash out the £10 for the vinyl plus booklet On ebay at the moment the vinyl version with words. |
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22 Jan 16 - 11:29 AM (#3767402) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: FreddyHeadey Che viot with a hard e I think, though I have heard other English people from further south say Chee viot and not been questioned. |
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22 Jan 16 - 11:42 AM (#3767404) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: GUEST,Jim Williams "A mishmash except for a few lines of the chorus"! Well thanks for that...It took me about 20 minutes to listen and write this out. There are about 8 words I'm not 100% certain on because the recording isn't that great and as I've already said, I'd get my friend, the very fine singer Simon Davies, who sings this on the Posh Frock track to send me the lyrics if he has them written down (probably not) or he can let me know the missing words. ===================================================================== Chorus: From the Chilterns to the Cheviots, Yorkshire moors and Norfolk broads, from the valleys of Caernarfon, from the high hedged Cornish roads, from the rolling hills of Sussex and the bracing Pennine air, the gypsy people gathered for the Brough Hill fair. ====================================================================== The Lovells and the Stanleys the Boswells and the Lees, Coopers, Petrelengos, names that pass the centuries, a trading with the dealers their sound and battered nags, ---- the circus ponies, strong shires and mountain ----- (Chorus) From all the heads they gathered,-- --- ---- ---- ---- -----, in the bronze October weather where the winds are keen and rough, there was no worry stopped them until this year a' grace, the fair has been forbidden and considered out of place. (Chorus) Make futile regulation, introduce new pointless laws, put down the country meetings without sufficient cause, The London legislators could easily have a care. when dealing with the people who meet at Brough Hill fair. (Chorus) They know the things that matter are rain and wind and sun, woodland heights and valleys so well made for everyone, for law and legislation they don't care a tinker's curse, the only laws that they obey are of the universe. (Chorus) So long as smoke arises from some battered old hooped van, the love of freedom still lives on though scattered is the clan, the symbol and the spirit the struggles and sores they bear, still laughing, whistling, waiting, for future Brough Hill fairs. (Chorus) |
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22 Jan 16 - 05:18 PM (#3767443) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: GUEST,Peter Brown Many thanks Jim. True as your word. Nags - stags perhaps in verse one ? An intuitive guess. Verse 2 line one - tough perhaps? Anyhow lets use our collective whatever to try and complete. Peter |
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22 Jan 16 - 06:15 PM (#3767452) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: GUEST,Gutcher Staigs were young unbroken horses straight from the cleughs and woods. There is an old Nithsdale ballad which I will try and drag up from my [failling] memory,---- "Gar fetch to me those twa wild staigs whilk gang in Oakenshaw and ere I either eat or drink I will his body draw" The lass Emily Smith from down that airt had obviousely heard the ballad as a story and she composed a song based on it. |
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23 Jan 16 - 04:38 AM (#3767507) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: GUEST,Jim Williams Yes Peter I thought it was 'nags' in verse 1. The singer is going to get back to me today so we shall have the mystery of the missing words solved later and I'll post a revised version here. |
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23 Jan 16 - 08:32 AM (#3767535) Subject: Lyr Add: BROUGH HILL FAIR From: GUEST,Singerdave Hello all who are interested, have rec'd the lyrics as follows, Jim you did a very good job. BROUGH HILL FAIR
CHORUS: From the Chilterns to the Cheviots, Yorkshire moors and Norfolk Broads |
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23 Jan 16 - 10:09 AM (#3767546) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: GUEST,Peter Brown Brilliant! The community works. Peter |
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23 Jan 16 - 11:09 AM (#3767559) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: GUEST,# Nice work, Singerdave. |
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23 Jan 16 - 12:41 PM (#3767575) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: Gutcher As one who has an interest in words, from the context in the above song it would appear that a Stag in Yorkshire? is the equivelent of our Staig. Is the word still known/used in those parts for an unbroken horse as if used in another context it would be taken for a male of the deer species. Anent the ballad mentioned in my previous post the Douglas family Earls of Morton, who took their title from the parish of that name in Dumfrieshire, one of whom became Regent at the time of James V1 and I take it to have lived at a period post the incidents mentioned in the ballad was the inventor of the "Maiden" the percursor of the "Guillotine" and stated by some to have been it's first victim. What I have remembered of the ballad so far is as follows:-- [!] The Lord of Mortons a hunting gane A hunting of the deer And he's taen a his men but ane That ane was young Willie [2] The Lady from her bour doth cry noo Willie come to me This nicht ye'll lie in my armis twa And my leman ye shall be [3] Noo haud awa ye vile woman Noo haud awa fae me For I winna lie in your armis twa An your leman I wadna be. Etc. etc. Scorned woman husband returns from hunting trip Wife puts on a greetin face What ails ye wife? Young Willy has lichted me Willie clapped in dungeon Lord goes of a hunting again Willie fed by sweetheart through small grill Lord returns A boon a boon my noble lord a boon ye'll grant tae me What do you still live!! Gar fetch tae me those twa wild staigs Whilk gang in Oakenshaw And ere I either eat or drink I will his body draw Willie tied to horses tails and dragged the distance of Durisdeer where mangled remain claimed by sweetheart Margaret. __________________________________________________________________ Durisdeer in the second half of the 19th. C. home to Lady Anne Douglas composer of the well known version of "Annie Laurie". "Durisdeer" etc. etc. |
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24 Jan 16 - 01:30 AM (#3767651) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: Gutcher Woke up in the middle of the night could'nt get back to sleep---- soughin ower favourite song Durisdeer when I realised that I finally lost it. The composer of Durisdeer, Annie Laurie etc. was of course LADY ANNE SCOTT. |
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25 Jan 16 - 08:40 PM (#3768124) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: Jim Dixon For what it's worth, it seems that the lyrics to BROUGH HILL FAIR posted by Singerdave above were printed in "Journal of the Gypsy Lore Society" (1940), page 63. |
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15 Oct 18 - 04:56 AM (#3956716) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Brough Hill Fair From: GUEST,Lois I think tee missing line is: from all the airts they gathered on a rock hill nigh Brough, and the line about the horses begins rare leaders, and ends in mountain stags |