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11 Mar 16 - 11:48 PM (#3778191) Subject: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: GUEST,Donna I have been a long time fan of Don McLean's music and have several of his albums. I have never had a chance to see him in concert though. I was reading in my local newspaper today that Don's wife, Patrisha McLean has filed for divorce in Maine. A lawyer for Patrisha McLean says the legal papers filed Thursday cite, "adultery, cruel and abusive treatment and irreconcilable differences. The two have been married for 30 years. Don McLean was arrested in January 2016 on charges including domestic assault. He has pleaded not guilty. Sorry to hear this. I guess no one really know what is going on in someone's marriage. I wonder how this will effect any upcoming tours he may have. If any of these charges are true - it's really terrible! |
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12 Mar 16 - 06:35 AM (#3778245) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: maeve Life events will always impact touring schedules. This needs to be downstairs, methinks.
-Joe Offer- |
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12 Mar 16 - 06:39 AM (#3778248) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: GUEST,DTM Bye bye, American guy? ;-) |
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12 Mar 16 - 02:46 PM (#3778326) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: keberoxu Aw, expletive deleted. The only thing that comes to mind about the marriage, from decades ago surely, is that in an interview the subject of pet dogs came up. And McLean confessed that he loves dogs, but his wife is allergic to them, so no dogs. Watching McLean from a great distance over all these years, the thing that made me stop and wonder, was that he persisted all this time with the touring and being on the road. It's a whole way of life in itself. When one lives that way, things seem normal that to a stick-in-the-mud like me would be untenable. It has to be tough on any marriage. |
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12 Mar 16 - 08:00 PM (#3778401) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: GUEST,Cindy To keberoxu This is true. This is what happened in John Denver's first marriage to Annie. John always touring and on the road. She had also claimed he had abused her too from what I had read years ago. |
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13 Mar 16 - 05:17 AM (#3778458) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: GUEST,Mike Yates So? Is this really in the public interest? Or are we just too brainwashed to think that the private lives of so-called "celebrities" are now of such importance that the whole world should get involved? |
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13 Mar 16 - 05:36 AM (#3778459) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: GUEST,Rodge Ain't nobody's business but his. And hers. |
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13 Mar 16 - 06:01 AM (#3778463) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: GUEST,Peter +1 to the previous two posts |
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13 Mar 16 - 06:50 AM (#3778474) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: maeve Thus my earlier suggestion. I was outvoted. |
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13 Mar 16 - 09:33 PM (#3778662) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: Jack Campin Pompous old fart who proved PT Barnum right by writing the dumbest, most overperformed song since Rule Britannia. We're allowed a bit of schadenfreude, surely? |
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14 Mar 16 - 12:58 AM (#3778679) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: MGM·Lion Oh? But — 'Barnum is widely, but erroneously, credited with coining the phrase "There's a sucker born every minute".' Wikipedia So Bye-bye Mr American Jack Drive your chevvy to the levy and don't bother coming back. ≈M≈ Only joking |
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14 Mar 16 - 03:16 AM (#3778691) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: MGM·Lion Actually I never shared in near-universal admiration for the effusion; not sure I ever bothered to listen to it right thru. If I had, I suspect it might have been the day the brain-cells died. Had a sort of grudging respect, tho, for McLean's marathon-style ability to go on & on & on &... |
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14 Mar 16 - 09:11 AM (#3778763) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: Jack Campin The Barnum quote I had in mind was "nobody ever went broke from underestimating the intelligence of the American public". |
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14 Mar 16 - 11:56 AM (#3778784) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: MGM·Lion Oh, right. Sorry to have pitched on the wrong one. My comments above still apply; and I'm sure I could think of some even dumber, more overperformed songs than Rule Britannia if put my mind to it. Quite like RB, for that matter: nice to think I never·x3 shall be slaves. Still -- what all this is to do with Don McC the alleged wife-abuser; or what any of the rather distressing allegations with any of us [as several (Mike Yates et al) remark above]...... So bye-bye -- (tho I drive an old Vauxhall Astra, not a Chevvy) ≈M≈ |
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14 Mar 16 - 12:15 PM (#3778790) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: Mark Ross Jack Campin, that quote, "nobody ever went broke from underestimating the intelligence of the American public". is from H.L. Mencken. Mark Ross |
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14 Mar 16 - 06:08 PM (#3778847) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: GUEST of course his best song was 'vincent' |
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14 Mar 16 - 06:22 PM (#3778848) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: GUEST,Allan Conn Domestic abuse (alleged at this point I take it?) is not something which is only the business of the victim and the abuser. It shouldn't be tolerated under any circumstances. |
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14 Mar 16 - 06:40 PM (#3778855) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: meself Yes, it is clearly our duty to speculate on the marriage of these two people whom none of us seem to know, and to make the appropriate pronouncements ..... |
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15 Mar 16 - 02:58 AM (#3778904) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: GUEST,Allan Conn Donna's original post didn't say the charges were true. She simply stated that 'if they were true it'd be really terrible'. I can't see anything to criticize in that statement. Anyone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law hence my use of the word alleged. That is the same for McLean as it is for any other alleged criminal. That doesn't mean though that no-one can speculate about or mention criminal proceedings in process. I totally disagree though with the post further down from another poster which states "Ain't nobody's business but his - and her's" I don't know what decade or century some people are still living in but the idea that domestic abuse is solely a matter between a husband and his wife is surely long gone. That was the point I was making! |
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15 Mar 16 - 02:04 PM (#3779031) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: Greg F. Sorry, Allan, but really, Ain't nobody's business but his - and her's. If I wanted this crap, I could read the tabloids from the supermarket checkout. |
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15 Mar 16 - 07:33 PM (#3779093) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: GUEST,Rodge Cheers Greg F! |
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15 Mar 16 - 08:03 PM (#3779100) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: GUEST,Marianne To Greg F. "Ain't nobody's business but his- and hers." THEN WHY THE HELL DID YOU ANY BOTHER TO READ THE THREAD WHEN YOU READ THE SUBJECT LINE? When you are a famous person you do give up some privacy and that goes with the territory. I can't believe you have never read negative things about famous people's lives ever in your life or never talked about it with your spouse, girlfriend, family members, friend, co-worker, neighbor. You have never talked/discussed about some private lives of some famous athlete? (about their marriages or crimes they committed or other personal stuff?) Are you so perfect? I doubt it! Donna did not say the charges were true, just "terrible" if they were. Which I agree! |
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16 Mar 16 - 02:14 AM (#3779124) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: GUEST,Allan Conn Not a great tabloid reader either but this isn't just a tittle tattle story about a couple splitting up anyway. It is a story where a guy has been accused of domestic abuse. Actual physical assault as well as seemingly further charges of misdemeanor, charges of terrorizing, criminal threatening behaviour, criminal restraint, criminal mischief and obstructing the reporting of a crime. The story made the main media and not just the celeb magazines etc. He has of course as yet not yet been found guilty of anything. Again my point though was that the idea that domestic abuse is only the business of the abuser and the person being abused is wrong. That is an attitude from another century. |
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16 Mar 16 - 09:38 AM (#3779186) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: Greg F. Yes, Allan - He's been ACCUSED - and you already have the rope out to lunch him. This when you know absolutely bugger-all about the facts of the case. So put a sock in it, eh? |
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16 Mar 16 - 09:48 AM (#3779191) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: GUEST,Allan Conn Sorry but where have I put the rope out for him? I said several times that it is alleged and that he hasn't been found guilty of anything. My comment was over the suggestion that it (ie domestic absue) was nobody's business but his and her's. I would disagree strongly with that idea. Obviously it is also the Court's business and if it was indeed domestic abuse, which has yet to be proved in court, then it is something that society as a whole should frown upon. The days of it being ok to slap your wife about as long as it is behind closed doors are surely long gone? That is all I am saying. Struggling to see why you have an issue with that? |
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16 Mar 16 - 10:02 AM (#3779196) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: meself I'll say this while this unseemly thread is sitting at the top: let's let it slide to the bottom and into oblivion. |
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16 Mar 16 - 10:07 AM (#3779197) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: GUEST Fans can get over defensive to the point of mass hysteria when their idols show themselves up to be sleazy criminals. |
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16 Mar 16 - 11:30 AM (#3779217) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: GUEST,Rodge We could do without voyeurs like Allan Con (pardon my French) |
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16 Mar 16 - 01:05 PM (#3779235) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: MGM·Lion Allan Conn's conditionally formulated comments {"if one thing, then another"] seem to me among the most intelligent and germane contributions to this discussion. Why the unworthily aggressive and pejorative tone of Rodge's foolish derogation, for heaven's sake! What does he find remotely voyeuristic about Allan's posts? ≈M≈ |
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16 Mar 16 - 01:12 PM (#3779239) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: keberoxu I'm with Allan Conn and MGM Lion on this one. |
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16 Mar 16 - 02:19 PM (#3779258) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: GUEST Couldn't give a shit. |
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16 Mar 16 - 05:02 PM (#3779294) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: MGM·Lion Well, there's a really valuable contribution to the thread to be sure, GUEST. Why don't you just go off and take a shit! ≈M≈ |
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22 Jul 16 - 05:13 PM (#3801596) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: keberoxu Well, it's an Associated Press feature story now. Actually the divorce is not the story, it gets a sentence or two. What the media reported on was the guilty plea entered by Don McLean in court -- I presume this is criminal court, not a civil suit? So McLean has entered a guilty plea to domestic abuse, and he has to behave himself for one year if he doesn't want his fines increased. |
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22 Jul 16 - 08:10 PM (#3801616) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: Joe Offer According to People Magazine and other sources, McLean pleaded guilty to a domestic violence offense. But I think I recall a message somewhere in our 159,000 threads, that described McLean's performance in a concert as "creepy." What he does in his personal relationships may be irrelevant here, but what is he like in a concert? I like his studio recordings, but what's he like in a live performance? -Joe- |
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23 Jul 16 - 03:19 AM (#3801634) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: Will Fly I saw Don McLean in Brighton - must have been about 1980 or so - at the Dome concert hall, which was packed. He came on, stepped up to the mic and said, "I like playing love songs and old rock'n roll" - and then played non-stop for over two hours to rapturous applause. His stage presence was superb - warm and funny - his playing and singing second to none. He played guitar and did some banjo frailing. One of the best concerts I ever attended in those days - around 35 years ago. I've no idea what he's like now. What were we all like 35 years ago? |
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23 Jul 16 - 05:06 AM (#3801640) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: Jack Campin The Guardian's story of a few months ago reports his wife as implying that the law had got out of control and the case shouldn't have got to court. I find "American Pie" one of the most loathsome songs in existence and I'd be happy for it to be erased from history and its composer locked up and the key thrown away (I've no idea what else he may have written or performed). But that's got nothing to do with his private life. |
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23 Jul 16 - 06:48 AM (#3801653) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: The Sandman JACK ,its not my favourite but it is imo opinion . not as distateful tiptoe through the tulips or the birdie song, or the last good bye |
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23 Jul 16 - 08:46 AM (#3801678) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: Greg F. Nothing to see here folks, move along. |
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23 Jul 16 - 10:12 AM (#3801685) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: Dave Hanson I fail to understand why Don McLean's divorce or not is of any concern or interest to anyone else. Dave H |
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23 Jul 16 - 12:08 PM (#3801697) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: alex s Well said, Dave H. Not a music thread (or even a valid one) |
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23 Jul 16 - 02:00 PM (#3801711) Subject: RE: Don McLean's wife files for divorce From: GUEST,Tunesmith If you don't like "American Pie" then, well...you're fools. Deaf fools at that. It's not just a matter of personal preference. It's do you with recognising quality. Recognising a beautifully crafted song. Recognising the ability to compose one of the most iconic songs of the 20th Century. McLean is a wonder. His talent should be cherished. |