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18 Dec 16 - 02:25 PM (#3827230) Subject: Folklore: Seasonal Question From: RTim Following a question today on American Radio - What is the Difference between Wassailing and Caroling? Answers please............In understandable logic! Tim Radford |
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18 Dec 16 - 02:46 PM (#3827235) Subject: RE: Folklore: Seasonal Question From: ripov Wassailing involves alcohol. "Wassail" was what you said when drinking someones health - a bit like "cheers" or "skol". And the appropriate reply was "Drinkhail" (Spellings vary according to personal inclination) Thus the wassail bowl. Carolling doesn't (officially) |
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18 Dec 16 - 03:02 PM (#3827236) Subject: RE: Folklore: Seasonal Question From: Steve Gardham Caroling in several of its usages refers to singing. There are several activities attached to wassailing depending where you are, although in some places the activities have all but disappeared and only the singing is left. Wass hael, Tim! Working on including your George Blake stuff as we write. |
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18 Dec 16 - 03:26 PM (#3827239) Subject: RE: Folklore: Seasonal Question From: Marje Wassailing may also involve assaulting apple trees in January, and exhorting them to bear fruit in the coming year. Marje |
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18 Dec 16 - 04:35 PM (#3827249) Subject: RE: Folklore: Seasonal Question From: Hollowfox I *think* I read in A L Lloyd's Folksong in England that "carol" originally involved dancing as well as song. Also (?) perhaps the word is French in origin, while wassail is definitely not French. |
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19 Dec 16 - 02:40 PM (#3827443) Subject: RE: Folklore: Seasonal Question From: Anne Lister Carols did indeed originally involve dancing and were not restricted to Christmas. |
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19 Dec 16 - 03:01 PM (#3827445) Subject: RE: Folklore: Seasonal Question From: Steve Gardham Indeed but that was over half a millennium ago and in France. |
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19 Dec 16 - 04:35 PM (#3827461) Subject: RE: Folklore: Seasonal Question From: Murpholly Caroling including dance happened in medieval England. We danced one in our history of English dance during the Commonwealth Arts Festival at the Albert Hall more years ago than I care to remember. |