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27 Feb 17 - 01:21 PM (#3841972) Subject: Lyr Req: comic song about Hanging a Monkey From: GUEST,sciencegeek years ago a friends group would perform a British? song about a monkey that survived a ship wreak only to be hung as French? spy by the naive locals... oh, how I hate "oldtimers"... aka can't remember sh*t... any help appreciated |
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27 Feb 17 - 01:39 PM (#3841977) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: comic song about Hanging a Monkey From: Steve Gardham Famously this was well-known and about Hartlepool in the UK. There are postcards with the words. I have one somewhere. The usual title is 'The Fishermen hung the Monkey'. However I have a vague memory that the song was earlier than the Hartlepool connection and had been applied in some form to other places. Like the song Brian O'Lynn which was first a skit on Scots (Tom-a-Lin) and then switched to an Irishman about 1800, this story was a skit on several other places/races. |
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27 Feb 17 - 01:39 PM (#3841978) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: comic song about Hanging a Monkey From: StephenH I thought I'd replied to this but I guess not. Perhaps you're thinking of "The Hartlepool Monkey" I first heard it when Vin Garbutt did it but it was written by Alan Wilkinson of the Teeside Fettlers. Here's one link I found: http://www.stanlaundon.com/monkey.html |
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27 Feb 17 - 01:49 PM (#3841980) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: comic song about Hanging a Monkey From: GUEST,sciencegeek YES! that's the one... many thanks for the help... mudcatters are such a treasure trove of arcane info, lol |
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27 Feb 17 - 02:01 PM (#3841983) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: comic song about Hanging a Monkey From: Jacob B Here's a link to the song in the Mudcat database: http://mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=9730 |
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27 Feb 17 - 02:10 PM (#3841985) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: comic song about Hanging a Monkey From: Steve Gardham Okay, here's another one. 1865 'Fishermen and Monkey' FL In Greenock Town I've heard it said' printed in Glasgow and in Dundee. I wonder when it was first applied to Hartlepool. The postcard I have is about 1910 so it predates that. |
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27 Feb 17 - 02:54 PM (#3841994) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: comic song about Hanging a Monkey From: StephenH Jacob B - yes, I should have looked there first. It's a long and interesting thread on the subject. |
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27 Feb 17 - 02:59 PM (#3841996) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: comic song about Hanging a Monkey From: StephenH Sorry, should have said there is also a long and interesting thread containing other songs on the subject - http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=2413. |
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27 Feb 17 - 08:18 PM (#3842024) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: comic song about Hanging a Monkey From: ketchdana https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQwQ_nPhx-o where Jez Lowe performs his song Simian Son (or the Hartlepool Monkey Revenge song). Lots of fun! (That hairylittlebastard.com referenced in the song doesn't exist any more. It usta, pointing back, I think, to Jez's site www.jezlowe.com) ..Bob |
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28 Feb 17 - 04:56 AM (#3842051) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: comic song about Hanging a Monkey From: GUEST,kenny There's a North-East of Scotland version of this called "The Boddamers Hinged The Monkey", recorded by Aberdeen trio "The Gaugers". I'll try to post the lyrics later. |
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28 Feb 17 - 07:11 AM (#3842087) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: comic song about Hanging a Monkey From: GUEST,Guest - Rabee Here is the Gaugers singing this song Arthur Watson sings the verses Other two members of the trio are the late Peter Hall and Tom Speirs. http://www.mediafire.com/file/pvi7f3ffq1chdi5/06_Gaugers%2C_The_-_The_Boddamers_Hinged_the_Monkey.mp3 Boddam is a wee village just south of Peterhead in Aberdeenshire. I used to live there in the late 50s As can be expected the Boddamers denied any truth in the story Boddamers BB |
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28 Feb 17 - 03:33 PM (#3842186) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: comic song about Hanging a Monkey From: Mo the caller Are you telling me that it didn't happen in Hartlepool? I know it's true - someone who lived in West told me when I worked on Teesside 50 years ago. |
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28 Feb 17 - 04:46 PM (#3842192) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: comic song about Hanging a Monkey From: GUEST,kenny No, I never stated any such thing. I'm merely telling you that there is a song in the NE of Scotland which tells very nearly the same story. Here is the background to the song from the sleeve notes from "Awa' Wi' A Rovin' Sailor", recorded by the "Gaugers" in 1994 : "Boddam is a small coastal village just south of Peterhead. The story goes that during the Napoleonic wars, a strange ship was wrecked off the coast there, and that the only survivor was the ship's pet monkey, who climbed up and clung on to the main mast.The animal had been dressed in a sailor's outfit, and the "Bodammers", having never seen a Frenchman, took it that the monkey was of that nationality, perhaps even Napoleon himself. The villagers tried to hang this enemy of their country, a difficult task, since the monkey hung on to the rope with its' tail. The story is related by the people of Peterhead to stigmatise their country cousins from Boddam and the version here is a collation of verses from Isobel Baird and Jake Mitchell of Peterhead. There are a number of similar pieces from around the coast ; one collected by Gavin Grieg placing the incident at Cullen, and an English version from Hartlepool more elaborately written by a music hall performer Ned Corvan". The notes were written by the late Peter Hall. |
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28 Feb 17 - 11:49 PM (#3842221) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: comic song about Hanging a Monkey From: Bugsy Just goes to show that Urban Myths are not a new phenomenon Cheers Bugsy |
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01 Mar 17 - 02:50 AM (#3842230) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: comic song about Hanging a Monkey From: GUEST,Some bloke At the maritime museum in Hartlepool, a poster mentions the story. It also reckons the event took place further north in Sunderland. Towns and rivalry eh? Hartlepool is just as famous as the home of the newspaper cartoon Andy Capp, as the late MGM and I used to point out as we quoted him here on Mudcat. |
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01 Mar 17 - 07:58 AM (#3842273) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: comic song about Hanging a Monkey From: Effsee And then there's H'Angus the Mayor of Hartlepool! https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjKsJGIrLXSAhUIAsAKHemCAckQFggaMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bbc.co.uk%2F2%2Fhi%2Fuk_news%2Fpolitics%2F1965569.stm&usg=AFQjCNFnqtDBfTGtzctYSx9Bp1D6c-Vc_Q&bvm=bv.148441817,d.d24 |