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01 Oct 17 - 07:12 AM (#3879584) Subject: Lyr Add: NO MORE SONGS (Phil Ochs) From: Daniel Kelly So I have been recording a few Phil Ochs covers and had avoided this one because it so sadly talks to his depression and the likely cause of his suicide just 6 years after it was released. The lyrics are fairly cryptic and I wondered if anyone here might know who Phil is referring to in each verse? No More Songs ? Phil Ochs Hello, hello, hello, is there anybody home I've only called to say I'm sorry The drums are in the dawn, and all the voices gone And it seems that there are no more songs Once I knew a girl, she was a flower in a flame I loved her as the sea sings sadly Now the ashes of the dream can be found in the magazines And it seems that there are no more songs Once I knew a sage who sang upon the stage He told about the world, his lover A ghost without a name stands ragged in the rain And it seems that there are no more songs The rebels they were here, they came beside the door They told me that the moon was bleeding Then all to my surprise, they took away my eyes And it seems that there are no more songs A star is in the sky, it's time to say goodbye A whale is on the beach, he's dying A white flag in my hand and a white bone in the sand And it seems that there are no more songs The verse about the moon and rebels reminds me of 'The Rising of the Moon', but the only traditional song I know that Phil recorded was 'The Highwayman'. "Took away my eyes" - pepper spray at the 1968 Democratic convention? Is the sage on the stage Phil, or maybe Bob? I've heard it said that this was a song about writers block, but I don't buy it. |
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03 Oct 17 - 02:20 AM (#3879939) Subject: RE: Origins: No More Songs by Phil Ochs - Meaning From: GUEST,Gerry Wish I could help you figure out No More Songs, but all I can do is reply to "the only traditional song I know that Phil recorded was 'The Highwayman'." That was not a traditional song; it was a poem by Alfred Noyes, and not a song at all until Ochs set it to music. |
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03 Oct 17 - 09:11 AM (#3880018) Subject: RE: Origins: No More Songs by Phil Ochs - Meaning From: Rapparee There was CS tear gas at the 1968 Democratic National Convention. Pepper spray hadn't been invented yet. Look at his contemporaries for the references to people. |
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08 Oct 17 - 01:14 AM (#3880907) Subject: RE: Origins: No More Songs by Phil Ochs - Meaning From: Daniel Kelly Thanks Gerry, I guess I set my 'trad' benchmark as anything pre WWII, even if it has only been set to music recently. I know Highwayman from Loreena McKennitt's Book of Secrets album in 1997, which I think is set to her own melody. The poem had actually been set to music in 1914 by Deems Taylor and in 1933 by Cecil Gibbs. I can't find an online recording so don't know if they have any connection to more recent adaptations. Thanks Rapparee, I had suspected that pepper spray was a new invention. After being exposed to CS gas in training, I should have remembered that that was in use in the 60's. |
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08 Oct 17 - 10:18 PM (#3881041) Subject: RE: Origins: No More Songs by Phil Ochs - Meaning From: GUEST,Gerry Daniel, thanks. The Taylor setting was a "cantata for baritone solo, chorus of mixed voices and orchestra", and the score is available at the University of Rochester Eastman School of Music Sibley Music Library website, https://urresearch.rochester.edu/institutionalPublicationPublicView.action?institutionalItemId=24784 |
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23 Feb 19 - 08:54 PM (#3978639) Subject: RE: Origins: No More Songs (Phil Ochs) - Meaning From: Daniel Kelly Hi Gerry, sorry to be so late seeing this. Just learned to use the 'trace' feature. I played a few of the parts form this score on piano, nothing at all like Phil's version. |