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BS: Pronunciation

14 Oct 17 - 01:29 PM (#3882257)
Subject: BS: Pronunciation
From: Kampervan

So is the Caribbean island - Dominica - pronounced

Dommin- EEka   or

Dom in ikka?

Preference given to the opinion of anyone who lives there!


14 Oct 17 - 02:11 PM (#3882261)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: Jeri

Dom-IN-ikka, I'd think.


14 Oct 17 - 02:34 PM (#3882264)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: meself

It's "Dommin- EEka-nEEka-nEEka" -wait - no, that was the Singing Nun or some place like that ........


14 Oct 17 - 04:54 PM (#3882280)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: Jos

I think it comes from the name the French colonists gave it - Dominique.
It gets confused with the larger Dominican Republic, which is the western half of the island that also contains Haiti (which I pronounce Ha-EEty, but which some (Americans?) tend to pronounce Heighty.
There can also be confusion between Granada (Graneyda) in the Caribbean and Granada (Granahda) in Spain; and in England between Gillingham in Dorset and Gillingham (Jillingham) in Kent.


14 Oct 17 - 06:22 PM (#3882290)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: DMcG

There can also be confusion between ... Gillingham in Dorset and Gillingham (Jillingham) in Kent.

I have always had a stammer and went along to a speech therapy course with some half a dozen others when I lived in Gillingham, Kent. In the introduction the therapist got everyone to say who they were and what they hoped to gain from the course. It was, as you might imagine, a somewhat painful exercise. Just about the last person didn't have a stammer at all, but had been sent by his wife because he sometimes mixed up the two Gillingham pronunciations.

For some reason, he never came back after the first session.


15 Oct 17 - 05:58 AM (#3882347)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: Mr Red

there can be a problemo with pronunciation of Ceilidh, which when asked I usually reply "Barn Dance"
And getting receipts from local printers for publicity material, spelling goes the same way.

Now anyone care to pronounce Bodhran? Even Irish speakers differ but an average approximation would be:

Bow (as in bough) ron (as in da doo ron ron) Yea my heart stood still.........


16 Oct 17 - 07:11 PM (#3882653)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: Tattie Bogle

Ok, I know it's French, but what is really so difficult about:
D?j? vu (already seen) - pron: dayjah vyu (near enough)
So often mis-pronounced as dayjah voo (vous) (already you)!


17 Oct 17 - 01:07 AM (#3882674)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: leeneia

Hi, Kampervan. It's doh-min- EE ka

This YouTube video let's you hear the Caribbean sound of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_umrobGXLiY


17 Oct 17 - 05:42 PM (#3882870)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: JMB

I always pronounced Ceilidh as KAY-lee. As for Bodhran, I've heard someone pronounce the d, but I always said Boe-Rawn.

Other pronunciations that I use:
I often say GAR-idge rather than Ga-RAWGE for Garage, as well as Haych rather than Aych for the letter H and tree for the number 3. (I often say my "T-h's" as a "t".) Program, I sometimes pronounce as Pro-grum.


17 Oct 17 - 06:16 PM (#3882875)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: meself

Fr. vu = Eng. vyu? Not the way I was taught French!


18 Oct 17 - 03:37 AM (#3882920)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: Mr Red

bath, path, laugh
are you norf or sarf?


18 Oct 17 - 06:15 AM (#3882964)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: Steve Shaw

A man went to the doctor and told him that he couldn?t pronounce his Fs and THs.

The doctor replied, Well you can?t say fairer than that, then...


18 Oct 17 - 06:17 AM (#3882965)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: Steve Shaw

My iPad keyboard refuses to let me put in apostrophes or speech marks, inserting question marks instead. I can?t edit out the mistakes either. They just come back in the posted version. I think I need that same doctor...


18 Oct 17 - 06:28 AM (#3882967)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: DMcG

There are three apostrophes in Unicode (at least!); the old fashioned straight up and down that was always in ASCII and two more for an opening quotation and a closing quotation. In addition many things that display or process text replace "I don't recognised that character" by a question mark.

Odds on, that's where your problem.lies, Steve.


18 Oct 17 - 07:23 AM (#3882986)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: Mr Red

"Apple is a different country, they do things differently there"

How many e-mails have you seen with two character (non) apostrophes? And Apple evangelists can't understand why when the send an email everyone else can't open .page files - they didn't send them as attachments.


18 Oct 17 - 09:58 AM (#3883028)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: leeneia

I once had a houseguest who is a noted singer from Ireland, and she pronounced bodhran as BOW-run. You trill the r a little bit.

The BOW is the same sound as in "You did great! Take a BOW."


18 Oct 17 - 10:04 AM (#3883033)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: Steve Shaw

My old iPad, which I have still to update to the latest IOS version, behaves perfectly (I'm doing this post on it). My updated iPad mini even does it for apostrophes that the helpful little word predictor has put in, so it isn't me using the wrong apostrophes.


18 Oct 17 - 10:06 AM (#3883034)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: DMcG

Ah, it seems iOS 11 includes smart quotes, so all your simple quotation marks are being changes into a closing quotation mark. As with most "smart" stuff, it is only smart enough to stop people doing what they want ...


18 Oct 17 - 12:11 PM (#3883068)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: Steve Shaw

It doesn't matter whether the smart thingie put in the apostrophe (as it just did there with "doesn't") or whether I put it in. When I type into this box all looks well but, when I post, the apostrophes and speech marks (single or double) have all been changed. If I hit the preview button, the same. If I edit after the preview my intended marks come back, but they still won't post. I've tried enlarging the text to see what the marks look like. They always lean the appropriate way. But post them I cannot!

This was done on my old, un-updated iPad, by the way.


18 Oct 17 - 12:21 PM (#3883071)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: Steve Shaw

I'm just going to have a go at disabling smart quotes. The next post here will be done on the offending iPad. Hang about....


18 Oct 17 - 12:32 PM (#3883075)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: Steve Shaw

Right. I've disabled it. "So let's see whether all's now well..."


18 Oct 17 - 12:34 PM (#3883077)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: Steve Shaw

Alleluja! You're a genius, DMcG! I almost owe you a pint!


18 Oct 17 - 12:55 PM (#3883082)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: DMcG

If being a genius *almost* earns a pint what does it take to actually earn one? *smile*

Glad to have helped.


18 Oct 17 - 02:40 PM (#3883109)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: Steve Shaw

Ok, ok, a pint it is!


18 Oct 17 - 03:52 PM (#3883126)
Subject: RE: BS: Pronunciation
From: Mr Red

typing ' will give    '    (or will when I program in JavaScript on FireFox) and does in preview................