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Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse

13 Nov 17 - 09:34 AM (#3888337)
Subject: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: Big Al Whittle

Does anyone know the origins of an old Derbyshire turn of phrase?

He allus wants to know the Meg's arse of everything...

meaning he always wants to know all the fine detail, all the minutiae.


14 Nov 17 - 08:58 AM (#3888529)
Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST,Dave Hunt

My mother - Black Country -used to say...'He even wants to know the engine drivers name'.. meaning the same thing


14 Nov 17 - 01:03 PM (#3888576)
Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: Long Firm Freddie

Dahn sarf we'd refer to someone wanting to know the ins and outs of a duck's arse.

LFF


15 Nov 17 - 03:29 AM (#3888633)
Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST,Some bloke

As a kid in Creswell, I recall a woman behind the counter at Dicky Sam?s Corner shop was called Meg.

And she did have an enormous arse.

And it was in Derbyshire...


15 Nov 17 - 05:29 AM (#3888661)
Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST

mother from Yorkshire had a saying - he wants to know how many farts weigh an ounce?


15 Nov 17 - 05:57 AM (#3888665)
Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST

In Cumbria its 'all the ins and outs of Mary's arsehole.'
Roger


15 Nov 17 - 01:35 PM (#3888759)
Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: Backwoodsman

My mother - a native of Lincolnshire and from a Brigg family - used to say of over-inquisitive individuals, "He/she wants to know the far end of a Meg's arse, and the roo-ad (road) up there".


16 Nov 17 - 05:39 AM (#3888846)
Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: Mo the caller

I came from dahn sarf (London W3)and I've never heard any of those. Curiosity killed the cat was the nearest.


17 Nov 17 - 08:17 AM (#3888989)
Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: Dave the Gnome

He wants to know the ins and outs of the cat's backside was the one I used to hear in the Mancheter area.

Do they have a preoccupation with arse's in Derbyshire? The Peak cavern in Castleton is know locally as 'The Devil's Arse'. The only other saying from that area I am aware of is 'better to live in Hope than die in Castleton' :-)

DtG


18 Nov 17 - 02:55 AM (#3889078)
Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST,EnfieldPete

My Mum from West London used to say 'He/She....wants to know the ins and out of a magpies arse and what it's stuffed with. Miss you Mum


24 Aug 18 - 03:04 PM (#3946062)
Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST,Alvaston Derby.

We used to say "He wants to know the ins and outs of Megs arse and the road to it"

Youngie...


25 Aug 18 - 11:12 PM (#3946266)
Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: rich-joy

Wasn't Meg an ancient British goddess or sumthin??


26 Aug 18 - 06:56 AM (#3946304)
Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST,Sol

From a Google search I see that one version is "the ins and outs of a cow's arse" (as the cow's digestive system is very complicated). Can I suggest that Meg was a Derbyshire farmer's cow and the expression caught on.

Re. colloquial expressions, I used to know a chap from Manchester who would say "It's black over Bob's mothers" whenever there were dark clouds in the distance. I often wondered who Bob was.


26 Aug 18 - 07:07 AM (#3946308)
Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: Michael

As, I seem to remember, has been discussed before, 'black over ...'s mother's is quite common. In Derbyshire it was Bill's ma who lived there.

Mike


29 Aug 18 - 03:48 AM (#3946796)
Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: Mr Red

Old Meg she was a Gypsy if you want to know all about her!

I believe Old Meg is also the last stoop of corn deliberately left in a field. The eponomous Morris side told me that years ago, the fact of which, curiously, seems missing on their website.


29 Aug 18 - 03:58 AM (#3946799)
Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST,Some bloke

I have been reliably informed that the lady in question with the big arse when I was a kid wasn't called Meg after all, but her mother was. As her mother died before I was born.. It's a bit like digging in manure into your allotment.

The plot thickens.


29 Aug 18 - 07:58 AM (#3946859)
Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: C-flat

".....the far end of a fart" on Teesside


29 Aug 18 - 05:05 PM (#3946972)
Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: Mr Red

I think the Derby Ram had a very big arse too............


29 Aug 18 - 07:16 PM (#3946994)
Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST,Richard

Jim Reeves apparently liked well proportioned women; "I love you big arse.."


08 Jan 20 - 07:10 PM (#4027168)
Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST,Will

I was raised in West Cumbria &it was ‘far end of a fart".


24 Aug 21 - 05:17 AM (#4117676)
Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST

My family are North London and it was the ins and outs of a magpies arse that my Gran used to say. Everyone else in the South uses Maggots arse so it’s either regional differences or Gran getting it mixed up.


27 Aug 21 - 05:57 AM (#4117999)
Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST

My mum used to say, 'Wants to know the far end of a nags arse.' She was from Hodthorpe.


27 Mar 24 - 04:15 AM (#4199836)
Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST,Guest

My grandmother,born 1897 and brought up in London, favoured the,"argue the ins and outs of a nags backside" variant.