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Lost Canadian Ballad:John Taylor & his Daughters 3

09 Dec 17 - 10:18 AM (#3892985)
Subject: Lost? Canadian Ballad
From: GUEST,gutcher

Any information on a mid west Canadian ballad, stated to be widely known and sung c1880s in those parts:---
         

                   "John Taylor and his Daughters Three"

Thanks.


13 Dec 17 - 03:02 PM (#3893786)
Subject: RE: Lost Canadian Ballad:John Taylor & his Daughters 3
From: Gutcher

Thanks DaveRo.
I had hoped to double my repertoire of "tearjerkers" from that area, my fathers uncle returned from there at the end of the 19th.C. bringing with him the family "tearjerker" "Allan McPherson" which dates to the same era, namely, 1883.
In that year it appears there was a great storm, which caused some sort of tragedy which was commemorated by the ballad, now lost?.
The general area being around Lake Winnipeg, being that area granted to Lord Selkirk around 1812, and populated by him with highlanders from the estate of his friend, the Chief of the McDonnels of Glengary,near Loch Ness. He also took over members of the Border clan Glendinning and it was a Glendinning who in 1850 composed "The Scarboura Bays Mans Lament" Now, if I am not mistaken, it mentions in that song "Of Thirty Years That"s Gone" which takes us back to the exact time when the Glendinnings were settled near Winnipeg by Lord Selkirk.
To get back to the lost? ballad, for the storm and tragedy to merit a mention in the history of the area I would imagine that the local papers would have detailed reports and that they may be a source worth exploring---are copies of these now on the web?.


13 Dec 17 - 04:21 PM (#3893818)
Subject: RE: Lost Canadian Ballad:John Taylor & his Daughters 3
From: meself

Gutecher: do you have any of the lyrics of the songs you're talking about?


13 Dec 17 - 04:59 PM (#3893825)
Subject: RE: Lost Canadian Ballad:John Taylor & his Daughters 3
From: Gutcher

Only Alan McPherson in connection with this thread,
as one not generally known. Quite a number of others not connected with this thread

Received SBML over the telephone in 1972. In those days could get a song at one hearing, no written words taken.


02 Jan 18 - 10:31 AM (#3896916)
Subject: RE: Lost Canadian Ballad:John Taylor & his Daughters 3
From: Gutcher

Due to my lack of technical expertise I have not been able to access any local Canadian newspapers that may shed some light on this ballad---any help would be appreciated.
Date is 1883---subject great storm.-- Quoted, with name of ballad, in a history of Mid-West Canada

Thanks.