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Req: 2nd verse of 'You don't know my mind'

30 May 18 - 04:57 PM (#3928064)
Subject: Lyr Req: 2nd verse of song 'You don't know'
From: GUEST,Anne

First verse
You don't know you, you don't know
You don't know my mind (repeat lines 1 &2))
You may be thinking that I'm laughing
But I'm just trying to keep from crying

2nd verse
You've been gone (repeat)
Almost all night long
You've been gone (repeat)
Almost all night long
..what are the last two lines of this verse?

Early in the morning I got down
I went on my way (repeat 1&2)
I could hear the birds a-singing
I know there'd be a better day


30 May 18 - 06:17 PM (#3928086)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 2nd verse of song 'You don't know'
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)

Anne - your first verse is usually the chorus to the song (see the version here in the DT: You Don't Know My Mind).

I've listened to at least half a dozen versions of this from Leadbelly to Western Swing to Doc Watson to Huch Laurie(!) to Appalachian to Ella Fitzgerald and a few others and none of them have your second verse.

Do you know the source for your version?

Mick


30 May 18 - 10:16 PM (#3928110)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 2nd verse of song 'You don't know'
From: Big Al Whittle

nothing to with Helen Shapiro then...?


31 May 18 - 01:34 PM (#3928267)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 2nd verse of song 'You don't know'
From: Joe Offer

Here's the Jimmy Martin recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIHyWAH8Z5M

Hugh Laurie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE7FHPPCCRA

Leadbelly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGyOJCdRoQc

Odetta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9R1UhCSyN8

Mississippi Joe Callicott: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okxX5_e8Ufk

Pink Anderson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osXrF_jMALU

Will the Circle Be Unbroken album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xviTl_SabPo

J.D. Crowe & the New South: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_GECm8BYk8

Tony Rice, Bela Fleck, Jerry Douglas, Sam Bush, and Mark O'Connor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsXPzrTero4

Doc Watson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PahAfWq-2z8

Libby Rae Watson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB2w2Bb51Rs


31 May 18 - 03:14 PM (#3928291)
Subject: RE: Req: 2nd verse of 'You don't know my mind'
From: Joe Offer

Here's the 1923 Virginia Liston recording, which must be the original (lyrics are different from the DT): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqnCo-Aa8LM

The 1963 Ella Fitzgerald recording has exactly the same lyrics we have in the Digital Tradition, but it's very different from most other versions: YOU DON'T KNOW MY MIND (from DT)
(Virginia Liston, Samuel Gray and Clarence Williams)

I went to the racetrack, my man he won
Gave the money to another gal and wouldn't give me none

cho: You don't know, you don't know my mind.
You see me laughin', laughin' just to keep from cryin'.

I said to papa,"Can you stand to see me cry?"
He said, "gal, I can stand to see you die."

He said he didn't want me, I wasn't good enough,
I'm gonna get myself another man and call his bluff.

I'm not good lookin', I don't dress fine,
But I'm the kind of woman who will take her time.

The grass is green, and the mountains are blue,
That's not tellin' what I'm thinkin' 'bout you.

copyright 1923 Pickwick Music Corp.
@blues
filename[ KNOWMIND
TUNE FILE: KNOWMIND
CLICK TO PLAY
RG


31 May 18 - 03:57 PM (#3928301)
Subject: RE: Req: 2nd verse of 'You don't know my mind'
From: Joe Offer

One problem with Michael Taft's blues lyrics book, Talkin' to Myself, is that the book is indexed only by the performer. There is no title index. There is an online concordance that helped me find two versions, but I can't make it identify the sources of the two versions. Anyhow, here they are:

I went to the race track : my man *on derby* won
Give the money to another gal : and wouldn't give me none

You don't know : you don't know my mind
When you see me laughing : laughing to keep from crying

I said now papa : can you stand to see me cry
He said yes woman : I could stand to see you die

Fed my daddy : with plenty of jellyroll
Pull the shoes off my feet : let me out in the cold





Going down to the river : take a rope and a rock
Tie it around my neck : and jump off the dock

Ain't no one : can change my mind
I've been mistreated : and I don't mind dying

Going to get me some poison : kill myself
Because the man I love : has put me on the shelf

If he didn't want me : he didn't have to lie
The day I see him : that's the day he'll die

Baby : you don't know my mind
When you see me laughing : I'm laughing just to keep from crying

A crooked man's worse : than crooked dice
With dice you lose your money : with your man you lose your life

I'm going to get me a razor : and a gun
Cut him if he stands still : shoot him if he runs


31 May 18 - 04:21 PM (#3928312)
Subject: ADD version: You Don't Know My Mind
From: Joe Offer

Here's my transcription of the Hugh Laurie recording, which I really like. I got with help from a variety of lyrics sites. Laurie says he got the song from Leadbelly.

YOU DON'T KNOW MY MIND
(from Hugh Laurie recording, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE7FHPPCCRA)

Walking down the levee with my head hangin' low
Looking for my mama but she ain't here no more
Baby you don't know, you don't know my mind
When you see me laughing, I'm laughing just to keep from crying

She won't cook my dinner, won't wash my clothes
Won't do nothing but walk the road
Baby you don't know, you don't know my mind
When you see me laughing, I'm laughing just to keep from crying

My breakfast on the table and my coffee's getting cold
And mama's in the kitchen gettin' sweet papa told (???)
Baby you don't know, you don't know my mind
When you see me laughing, I'm laughing just to keep from crying

Sometimes I think my baby's too good to die
Sometimes I think she should be buried alive
Baby you don't know, you don't know my mind
When you see me laughing, I'm laughing just to keep from crying

I wish I had a nickel, I wish I had a dime
I wish I hadn't give myself a bad woman's time (??)
Baby you don't know, you don't know my mind
When you see me laughing, I'm laughing just to keep from crying

Look at you mama, see what you gone and done
You got my money now you broke and run
Baby you don't know, you don't know my mind
When you see me laughing, I'm laughing just to keep from crying

You made me get mad and you made me get sad
The going gets tougher than you ain't never had
Baby you don't know, you don't know my mind
When you see me laughing, laughing just to keep from crying.
When you see me laughing, laughing just to keep from crying.


Songwriters: Clarence Williams / Sam Gray / Virginia Liston
You Don't Know My Mind lyrics © Records On The Wall, Inc, Universal Music Publishing Group


31 May 18 - 04:23 PM (#3928313)
Subject: RE: Req: 2nd verse of 'You don't know my mind'
From: Joe Offer

Annie, where did you hear the version that you're asking about? I don't find any version that's close to yours - but it's fun to explore a variety of versions.
-Joe-


31 May 18 - 04:43 PM (#3928319)
Subject: RE: Req: 2nd verse of 'You don't know my mind'
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)

Joe - the versions by Jimmy Martin, Tony Rice et al, JD Crowe and the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band (Circle Be Unbroken - I can't see the video on youtube here in uk) are a different song. That's more of a country song, sometimes known as Honey, You Don't Know My Mind. I know - I listened to all those versions too!

And as Big Al says, not Helen Shapiro - which was just "You Don't Know". A super voice from my childhood that was sadly overtaken by the advent of The Beatles and the 60s uk bands.

Mick


31 May 18 - 05:27 PM (#3928330)
Subject: RE: Req: 2nd verse of 'You don't know my mind'
From: GUEST,Anne

My thanks to the suggestions given for the lyrics to "You Don't Know My Mind" These are similar but not the song I am seeking.
Mine only had the 3 verses, was sung by a woman,and I only heard it 2 or 3 times. I sing it to myself when I'm feeling blue and 'nobody understands me' I'll keep searching.   Anne


20 Jun 18 - 02:56 AM (#3932028)
Subject: Lyr Add: YOU DON'T KNOW MY MIND (Georgia White)
From: Jim Dixon

You can hear this version at the Internet Archive:


YOU DON'T KNOW MY MIND
As recorded by Georgia White, 1937.

1. I went to the racetrack; my man he won,
Give the money to another gal and wouldn't give me none.

CHORUS: You don't know, you don't know my mind.
You see me laughin', [I'm] laughin' just to keep from cryin'.

2. I said to papa: "Can't you stand to see me cry?"
He said: "Yes, I can stand to see you die." CHORUS

3. You don't know, you don't know,
You don't know my mind, doggone you. CHORUS

4. I fed my man with plenty jelly roll,
Wore the shoes off my feet and left me in the cold. CHORUS

5. The grass is green and the mountains are blue.
That's not tellin' what I'm thinkin' 'bout you. CHORUS

6. Ah, you don't know, you don't know,
You don't know my mind, doggone you. CHORUS


20 Jun 18 - 02:57 AM (#3932029)
Subject: Lyr Add: YOU DON'T KNOW MY MIND (Mabel Robinson)
From: Jim Dixon

You can hear this version at the Internet Archive:


YOU DON'T KNOW MY MIND
As recorded by Mabel Robinson with the 4 Blackamoors, 1941.

1. I went to the racetrack; my man he won,
He gave his other woman money 'n' didn't give me none.

CHORUS: You don't know, you don't know my mind.
You see me laughin', laughin' just to keep from cryin'.

2. He said he didn't want me; I wasn't good enough.
I'm gonna get myself another man and call his bluff. CHORUS

3. I'm not good looking; I don't dress fine,
But I'm the kind o' mama that will take my time. CHORUS

4. You don't know, you don't know,
You don't know my mind. CHORUS

[Repeat verse 4 and chorus.]


01 Feb 19 - 06:25 PM (#3974466)
Subject: Actual full lyric transcription from recording
From: GUEST,Liam

Actually, Anne, and to all of you here, The lyrics that Anne posted are actually from NONE OF THOSE SONGS. It is actually from AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT TUNE Very coincidentally bearing the same title, lyrics, and mood. The lyrics sound incriminatingly familiar to a tune that I have a fondness for, a song penned by Erik Darling (former member of the Tarriers, 1956 and the Weavers, 1963) and recorded by him on his 1963 Vanguard LP, “Train Time” (named after a very popular tune that the Weavers also recorded) Just entitled “You Don’t Know” I know the song because a 1960’s-era folk group The Serendipity Singers, recorded it on an LP released on Philips Records the following year. But anyways, I actually want to know what recording of the song you heard, Anne, because as far as I am concerned there has only been about 2 recordings I know of currently. And also to answer your question...

“YOU DON’T KNOW MY MIND” (Words and music by Erik Darling) © 1963 Ryerson Music Publishing, Co. — BMI. (transcribed from Erik and Serendipities’ recording, respectively.)

(First verse) You don’t know You don’t know You don’t know My mind

You don’t know You don’t know You don’t know My mind

You maybe thinkin’ that I’m laughing But I’m just tryin’ to keep from cryin’

(Second verse) You been gone You been gone Almost all night long

You been gone You been gone Almost all night long

Oh, you can tell me that you love me But I can’t love you when you’re gone

(Third verse) Early in the mornin’ I got down I went on my way

Early in the mornin’ I got down I went on my way

And I could hear those birds a-singin’ I knew there’d be a better day And I could hear those birds a-singin’ Way down in my soul

(Repeat first verse)

You maybe thinkin’ that I’m laughing...

(End of song)

I was actually pretty stumped when I saw your question at first because I didn’t realize there were actually so many songs bearing the name “You Don’t Know”

Anyways, your welcome My best - Liam -

P. S. Links to both afformentioned recordings

[The Serendipity Singers, 1964]: https://youtu.be/WFWnY49P1eE (More info on the recording and the album available online)

[Erik Darling, 1963]: https://youtu.be/AbrZsf59uRM (More info on the recording and the album available online)

Anyways, again your welcome Anytime, farewell And have a pleasant tomorrow - Liam -