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BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!

11 Jun 18 - 03:15 AM (#3930214)
Subject: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Bonzo3legs

UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy, right? No wait. Corbyn’s son works for McDonnell. McDonnell’s son works for Corbyn. Corbyn’s ex-girlfriend is Shadow Home Secretary. And McCluskey's ex-girlfried is General Secretary of @UKLabour!!!!!!!!!!!


11 Jun 18 - 03:21 AM (#3930216)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: peteglasgow

i didn't know that about JC and JMc's sons - what exactly are their jobs? this could make the nepotism at the top of the US government look insignificant. (i should say that my daughter has worked in a few bars in Leith and i have been served by her a few times)


11 Jun 18 - 03:41 AM (#3930221)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Nigel Parsons

Details of Jeremy Corbyn's son's appointment


11 Jun 18 - 03:49 AM (#3930224)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Iains

Perhaps you meant neptocracy, or even nepotism?


11 Jun 18 - 04:00 AM (#3930226)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Nigel Parsons

Nepotism is fine, as long as you keep it in the family.


11 Jun 18 - 04:18 AM (#3930230)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Iains

Perhaps you are correct Nigel, but to be fair most political parties are guilty of the same.


11 Jun 18 - 04:22 AM (#3930231)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Iains

False News perhaps?

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/16/europe/uk-politics-nepotism/index.html


11 Jun 18 - 04:39 AM (#3930237)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Nigel Parsons

Iains,
Maybe not 'false news'.
The link you give says they will stop MPs employing their relatives.
The opening post says Corbyn’s son works for McDonnell. McDonnell’s son works for Corbyn. So they are not employing their relatives. They're getting around it by employing each others relatives.


11 Jun 18 - 04:42 AM (#3930239)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Jim Carroll

LIKE THIS


11 Jun 18 - 04:48 AM (#3930240)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Nigel Parsons

Yes, Jim, a little like that. But as the files haven't been released we don't know what they contain, nor why they aren't being released.
It's certainly not 'nepotism' though, as his mother is no longer alive to exert any influence.


11 Jun 18 - 05:44 AM (#3930244)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Bonzo3legs

But Mark Thatcher was arguably, and I'm not saying that he was, only probably was, an even nastier piece of work than the Corbyn/McDonnell axis of evil.


11 Jun 18 - 05:45 AM (#3930245)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Jim Carroll

Nothing like that actually Nigel
The Corbyn thing dated back to 2015 and has only become an issue when it is realised that Corbyn has some support among the electorate - it concerns possible nepotism
The Thatcher thing not only covers up the facts of the Thatcher sprog's criminal behaviour (we know he was a gunn-runner from contemporary reports), and his mammy's pulling rank to get him out of the clarts (something else that was widely reported at the time)
But here we have the entire establishment hiding documents that we are entitled to see in order to protect both mammy and child
A different league altogether
I would be disappointed to learn that Corbyn was as prone to using his authority the way it is common to career politicians, (which I doubt) but your lot are hiding facts about serious international crimes
Give us credit for some intelligence - there's an election in the offing
This is only the start of your shit-throwing attempts to smear a decent politician with real alternatives to the garbage heap your lot have made Britain
Jim Carroll


11 Jun 18 - 06:01 AM (#3930247)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Keith A of Hertford

Welcome back Jim.


11 Jun 18 - 06:08 AM (#3930248)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Jim Carroll

Not sure I am Keith, but I thought I'd try may hand at something easy
Jim Carroll


11 Jun 18 - 06:25 AM (#3930250)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Nigel Parsons

Jim,
You're the one who said the two situations were alike, by titling your link "Like this". You're now saying that it's "nothing like that".
A little consistency might help us understand what you actually mean.

But here we have the entire establishment hiding documents that we are entitled to see in order to protect both mammy and child
Supposition only. You haven't see the documents either.

Give us credit for some intelligence - there's an election in the offing
Something else you have been made aware of secretly? Nothing has been announced to the rest of us.

This is only the start of your shit-throwing attempts to smear a decent politician with real alternatives to the garbage heap your lot have made Britain
I see your brief vacation from these pages has done nothing to moderate you language.


11 Jun 18 - 07:07 AM (#3930253)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Jim Carroll

"Like this".
Missed off the question mark Nigel - a bit rusty
"You haven't see the documents either."
I followed the reports at the time as did everybody else
All the hidden reports can possibly be is the background to what we already know - that the man was a serious international crook and his mammy bailed him out
I should imagine that the outrageous breach of the right to disclosure is to hide how deeply THatcher's colleagues were involved in the cover-up
Election - can a government relying on a terrorist linked political party which is still ploutering around Jurassic Park as far as human rights is concerned, possibly survive ?
If the gross immorality of relying on such friends doesn't bring May's Fred Karno set-up her back-stabbing colleagues (Brainless Boris - Gove the gob.... and How Much is that Moggy) will be more than happy to administer the coupe-de grace
A totally divided Government on major issues, a Brexit entry policy that need a guide dog and a white stick leading Britain into the Brave New World of "standing on its own two feet" - are you people totally round the twist ?
Language - c'mon we're all adults - there is no such thing as bad language - just language used badly
Sorry Nigel - you are one of "Them" I have a degree of respect for - don't you let me down
Jim Carroll


12 Jun 18 - 01:51 PM (#3930538)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: McGrath of Harlow

Give us credit for some intelligence - there's an election in the offing
Something else you have been made aware of secretly? Nothing has been announced to the rest of us


It's been denied by Theresa May, and that is quite sufficient to justify confidence that it likely is true.


12 Jun 18 - 02:54 PM (#3930541)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Jim Carroll

Watching the Parliamentary compromises today I think the Jury's still out on that one
I particularly likef the sight of the Whip sitting down next to the waverers and telling them what to vote
Jim


14 Jun 18 - 04:21 AM (#3930793)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Gutcher

Something I may have missed--is Sir Mark allowed to enter Britain yet?

The fragrant lady with the Tesco connection, on paying a third of what was due certainly was. We should not forget what her gains from that source {Tesco} were used for, on her own admission.


14 Jun 18 - 04:45 AM (#3930795)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Gutcher


14 Jun 18 - 10:02 AM (#3930846)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Jim Carroll

"is Sir Mark allowed to enter Britain yet?"
NO-ONE HERE SEEMS TO KNOW
Jim Carroll


14 Jun 18 - 04:07 PM (#3930914)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: McGrath of Harlow

Of course he's allowed to enter Britain. He's a British subject.

Possibly there might be various people who would want to have a word with him if he did, but that's entirely another matter.


15 Jun 18 - 03:09 AM (#3930955)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Jim Carroll

"Of course he's allowed to enter Britain. He's a British subject."
A MOOT POINT
Jim Carroll


15 Jun 18 - 03:47 AM (#3930959)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Iains

He is a British Citizen, of course he can enter Britain.


15 Jun 18 - 05:05 AM (#3930976)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Keith A of Hertford

IS Jihadi fighters are allowed to return.


15 Jun 18 - 06:36 AM (#3930984)
Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Jim Carroll

But not residents who have lived here since Windrush Days, if those responsible for monitoring our population get their way
That says everything that needs to be said about the rottenness in our particular "State of Denmark"
Jim Carroll