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05 Aug 18 - 02:29 AM (#3941679) Subject: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: GUEST,Brian Grayson I was trawling the 'Bertsongs' thread, and it occurred to me that nobody seems to have touched on his skills in telling long stories, often of the Shaggy Dog variety. I recorded an evening on 23 January 1973 at the Friday Folk Club in London, where he told two stories, 'The Cushmaker' and 'The Sleeve Job', which I would be delighted to pass on to anyone who's interested. If anyone knows of any other stories he told, I'd be grateful for the information on here or at briangrayson@iprimus.com.au Thank you! |
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05 Aug 18 - 03:27 AM (#3941690) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: Reinhard Brian, "The Kush Maker" is also on Lloyd's Fellside CD An Evening with A.L. Lloyd, which was recorded live at the Top Lock Folk Club, Runcorn, Borough of Halton, on November 5, 1972. But I'd love to get a copy of that 1973 evening, too. |
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05 Aug 18 - 03:49 AM (#3941696) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: Jim Carroll Hi Brian Me too We have a number of live performances of Bert including some of him telling stories (I think they include his 'Spiwah tales) We also have most of his radio broadcasts and a few lectures, if anybody is interested Good to know still of the old crowd are still alive and kicking Will be in touch Jim |
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05 Aug 18 - 04:06 AM (#3941700) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: Raedwulf Is there any way someone could perhaps digitise & upload them somewhere (if there are no copyright issues)? |
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05 Aug 18 - 06:12 AM (#3941730) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: Richard Mellish I have recordings of several of Bert's radio programmes, which I probably should not make available for copyright reasons, and just one recording from a folk club. That does include one tale, about Adam and Eve, which Bert told by way of a not very relevant introduction to his song of Adam, Eve and the Wang. I could make that tale available. |
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05 Aug 18 - 06:22 AM (#3941732) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: GUEST,Guest Arthur's biography repeats the one about three sailors who raped a woman. Arthur comments that Lloyd appeared to find this funny. |
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05 Aug 18 - 06:41 AM (#3941735) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: GUEST,Mike Yates I once drove Bert from his home in Greenwich, south London, to Snape Maltings in Suffolk, where we were running a study weekend. (Walter Pardon came down to sing in the final Sunday afternoon concert.) We hadn't been long on the road before Bert started telling me about his time in Australia. I now suspect that some of the stories might have been slightly exaggerated, but, boy, could he tell a tale! He really was a natural storyteller. |
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05 Aug 18 - 07:00 AM (#3941741) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: Jim Carroll "Arthur's biography repeats the one about three sailors who raped a woman." I think this might be 'The Sleeve Job' (not sure it was actually about rape) I think Orson Welles made a film about it 'The Lady from Shanghai' Bert had a cate-fable about an Australian farmer who, when asked to provide a bed for a visitor, told he him he has=d to share a bed with his daughter To ascertain there was no impropriety he hung a carrot from the bredsprings suspended over a bowl of milk The next morning the bowl was full of cream Jim Carroll |
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05 Aug 18 - 07:26 AM (#3941749) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: Richard Mellish I actually have two tales from Bert from that evening, now available to all (for as long as my website lasts - there is a possibility that one of the many disasters resulting from Brexit will be the disappearance of all .eu domains belonging to people or organisations in the UK). Adam and Eve Aussie dreams story |
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05 Aug 18 - 08:21 AM (#3941760) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: Raedwulf "And when the horseshoe is soft, give it another 10 mins!" By coincidence, I am currently being told off for polluting the "Cocky" thread with irrelevancies, even though I didn't start 'em! Thank you for sharing, Richard. |
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05 Aug 18 - 07:04 PM (#3941890) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: GUEST,Nick Dow (at Sidmouth) I thought I would just take time out in me hotel room, to let you know that I learned the 'Sleeve Job' (a story with no ending) from Bert. I told it in Kenny Goldsteins folk life tutorial in Philadelphia. I also learned The Carrot and cream, which was nothing to do with a daughter, but an errant wife with her husband away from home. While we're on the subject I've got two belting stories from the Gypsy Folk told to me a few years ago. One is 'Ghadjee the canary' and the other the old tramp. You are welcome to them if you want. Pat(rick) Ryan has asked for them, and I'm seeing him tomorrow. Ask and you will receive, somehow. |
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06 Aug 18 - 01:24 AM (#3941914) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: The Sandman Nick?Brian if you can contact me I would be interested, dickmiles77at gmail.com |
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06 Aug 18 - 04:36 AM (#3941936) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: GUEST,Guest It was a story about whaler men in some South African port, and the girl who was raped was from the Salvation Army. It was not about a sleeve job and it was about rape. But there may only have been two of them, not three. |
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06 Aug 18 - 11:47 AM (#3942028) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: Jim Carroll While this is up MacColl was a good storyteller - I remember hearing him tell 'Chairlie Plenderleith stories regularly at The Singers Club Wonder if anybody ever recorded any Jim Carroll |
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06 Aug 18 - 10:57 PM (#3942096) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: GUEST,Brian Grayson Jim - I'd love to hear what you have. I have a full list of all the stuff from Friday Folk - drop me an email and I'll send it to you. Brian |
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07 Aug 18 - 04:27 PM (#3942326) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: Anglo I see you do have the Worcestershire Sauce story, Richard. That's the one I particularly remember. I did hear the Sleeve Job too. Thanks for the memories. |
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08 Aug 18 - 12:24 PM (#3942512) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: GUEST,LJ Thanks for posting those audio links, Richard. When were they recorded? |
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09 Aug 18 - 04:59 AM (#3942625) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: Richard Mellish > Thanks for posting those audio links, Richard. When were they recorded? 4th April 1973 at Dingle's Folk Club in London. |
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10 Aug 18 - 05:37 PM (#3943001) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: Jehane Bert Lloyd as a storyteller by Dave Arthur article here - http://www.warrenfahey.com.au/bush-humour-yarn-telling/ |
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12 Aug 18 - 07:41 AM (#3943346) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: GUEST,Brian Grayson I've uploaded all the Bert songs/stories from Friday Folk to Soundcloud. Brian |
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12 Aug 18 - 07:46 AM (#3943350) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: Jim Carroll Sorry for not sending the list Brian - have been a bit busy Jim Carroll |
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14 Aug 18 - 04:25 PM (#3943946) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: Bat Goddess Ha! I sing "Little Piece of Wang" which I learned from a recording by Debbie McClatchy. For years it was my token "religious" song. Linn |
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14 Aug 18 - 05:06 PM (#3943952) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: Richard Mellish I too sing "Little Piece of Wang" which I got directly from Bert. I also sing North Sea Oil, which I suspect was his creation, albeit as a variation of an old theme. Brian said > I've uploaded all the Bert songs/stories from Friday Folk to Soundcloud. How do we find them? |
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20 Aug 18 - 04:44 AM (#3945095) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: Jehane Richard - I sent you PMs! |
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21 Aug 18 - 10:20 AM (#3945365) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: GUEST,Brian Grayson Richard - As far as I can figure out, go to soundcloud.com and search 'Brian Grayson'. Do let me know if you find the Lloyd tracks - I'm new to the Soundcloud stuff... Brian |
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24 Aug 18 - 05:12 AM (#3945961) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: GUEST,LJ >>4th April 1973 at Dingle's Folk Club in London. Thanks. I'd love to hear the whole gig. Would you mind uploading the rest? |
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24 Aug 18 - 05:15 PM (#3946080) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: Richard Mellish > I'd love to hear the whole gig. Would you mind uploading the rest? Here you go: The Old Batchelor The Widow of Westmorland's Daughter The Lover's Ghost The Proud Girl Nine Times a Night Musherooms Adam, Eve and the Wang Tam Lin The Jolly Bold Robber North Sea Oil Bluey Brink The Shearer's Dream |
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25 Aug 18 - 09:01 AM (#3946175) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: GUEST,Brian Grayson No - it was the Friday Folk Club in Croydon, on November 9th 1973, NOT Dingle's. Sorry... |
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25 Aug 18 - 01:08 PM (#3946211) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: Richard Mellish Brian said > No - it was the Friday Folk Club in Croydon, on November 9th 1973, NOT Dingle's. Sorry... Not sure who that was addressed to. Who was confused about which recordings were from where? I have made the rest of my recordings of the Dingles evening available (though they are all songs, not strictly relevant to this thread, as I had already made the two stories available); and I have successfully downloaded Brian's Friday Folk Club tracks from Soundcloud - thank you for those. "The Sleeve Job" is a very well told shaggy dog story. Jim, have you made your recordings available yet? If not, could you please? |
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26 Aug 18 - 02:09 PM (#3946356) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: Jehane I just want to thank everyone for making these recordings available, I'm enjoying them tremendously! Brian, you have mentioned 2 dates for the Friday Folk Club. At the top - "23 January 1973 at the Friday Folk Club in London" & lately "Croydon, on November 9th 1973". Are there 2 dates or is one a mistake? |
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10 Sep 18 - 09:23 AM (#3949432) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: GUEST,Brian Grayson I'm working on getting all the Friday Folk stuff onto Soundcloud. Please be patient... |
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21 Oct 18 - 01:46 PM (#3957725) Subject: RE: A L Lloyd as Storyteller From: GUEST,Dave G Hello All Just found this thread, great stuff!! Thanks for the above tracks and soundcloud ones. Would love to hear more, if anyone else has any recordings they could share. regards DSG |